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Freely ignore 0 penalisation. Finnic is based on Iron Age Finland, without outliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not a Cop
Seems large chunk of Finnish DNA is genetically Baltic.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6534953
Eastern Uralics in Russia score quite more Finnic than Finns.
Target: FIN_Levanluhta_IA
Distance: 1.2975% / 0.01297454 | ADC: 0.25x
86.4 Saami
6.2 Udmurt
5.8 Mansi
0.8 Gadaba
0.8 Juang
Distance to: FIN_Levanluhta_IA
0.02251598 Saami
0.04993427 Udmurt
0.06022185 Besermyan
0.06858708 Chuvash
0.07961911 Komi
0.08454868 Tatar_Kazan
0.08837517 Mari
0.10424410 Tatar_Lipka
0.10512452 Tatar_Mishar
0.10625747 Bashkir
0.11687575 Russian_Pinega
0.12652245 Vepsian
0.12851636 Finnish_East
0.13019109 Karelian
0.13370269 Yukagir_Forest
0.13605646 Tatar_Siberian
0.14081477 Mordovian
0.14312092 Russian_Kostroma
0.14505363 Ingrian
0.14625178 Finnish
Is this actually pre-Finnic sample? It should be Finnic, it's Iron Age. It's said proto-Finns came from Estonia and mixed with Saami, and got mongoloid from them.
But than it would mean proto-Finns were genetically Balto-Slavic which doesn't make any sense.
This sample is closest to Saami. By this age, Finnic language was already spoken in Finland.
Quote:
An early form of Finnic languages spread to the Baltic Sea region approximately 1900 BC with the Seima-Turbino-phenomenon. Common Finnic language was spoken around Gulf of Finland 2000 years ago. The dialects from which the modern-day Finnish language was developed came into existence during the Iron Age
With Dick's code:
Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.7012% / 0.01701152 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Germanic
25.8 Balkan
21.6 Slavic
1.0 Turkic
Target: MrG-dad_scaled
Distance: 2.6575% / 0.02657477 | ADC: 0.25x
36.8 Slavic
36.0 Balkan
22.6 Germanic
4.6 Turkic
I don't understand, how are results different? It's same samples. Anyway, mine looks more accurate. I don't want any changes to the calc, it's good as it is.
Well my Germanic is much closer to truth in pen=0 when 0.25.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
G25 doesn't read my German part at all. I prefer K13 by far when it comes to modern populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not a Cop
This is what the k13 says about me and is quite far from reality 64.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 35.8% West_German @ 2.05 I don't think it's a good calculator IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Well, for me it's great because I am around 16% West German and rest is SW Slavic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
You're a Basque. Mixed mode is sensless for you, your people are genetic isolates.
K13 is best calculator.
all calculatore can be flawed for someone. For example on k13 my mother is far too close to Austria because she has high Baltic score (look at my signature). On k15 she is far away from Austria becuase Baltic + East European gets split. She even is closer to Northern Germany than to Austria on k15. But on k13 its the closest distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Yes, true. I guess it's works differently for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
It's always the best if people don't use one particular calculator as a blueprint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Dick's code:
Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.9737% / 0.02973713 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Greco-Roman
24.0 Slavic
20.0 Germanic
12.0 Turkic
That's double your normal Germanic, no? Perhaps there is some balancing happening here, I believe that is high Greco-Roman for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
My results were almost the same, but the minor Turkic got picked up only after Dick's averaging. Either way, excellent and accurate calculator for me and a number of other members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
My dad and I get no Germanic on Dick's calculator :/ I think it is split between categories for us
Target: VFlumina_scaled
Distance: 3.4755% / 0.03475518
67.2 Balkan
28.2 Germanic
3.0 Celtic
1.6 Slavic
Target: Kyp_scaled
Distance: 4.0186% / 0.04018559
54.6 Greco-Roman
17.2 Baltic
14.4 Turkic
13.8 Germanic
Target: adamg
Distance: 1.4480% / 0.01448001
34.4 Balkan
30.8 Germanic
20.4 Baltic
11.6 Slavic
2.8 Greco-Roman
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 0.0308% / 0.03077132 | ADC: 0.25x
65.4 Slavic
14.2 Germanic
8.6 Balkan
7.4 Celtic
4.2 Baltic
0.2 Finnic
Interesting calc. I dont know how accurate it is though.
Dicks calc
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 0.0334% / 0.03336134 | ADC: 0.25x
64.4 Slavic
24.0 Germanic
11.6 Celtic
my results without Balkan and Celtic make more sense.
Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.7156% / 0.01715618
50.0 Slavic
25.8 Greco-Roman
24.2 Germanic
Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.7279% / 0.01727933 | ADC: 0.25x
49.4 Slavic
26.2 Germanic
24.4 Greco-Roman
0.25x
Balkan shouldn't be divided from Greco-Roman it's the same.
Target: Bosniensis_scaled
Distance: 1.9283% / 0.01928339 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Slavic
24.4 Greco-Roman
19.0 Balkan
Dicks averages
Target: Bosniensis_scaled
Distance: 2.1750% / 0.02175043
36.8 Greco-Roman
33.4 Baltic
15.0 Balkan
13.8 Slavic
1.0 Turkic
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
isnt the early czech slav already mixed with a celtic substrata?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.5050% / 0.02505007 | ADC: 0.25x
95.8 Germanic
3.8 Celtic
0.4 Balkan
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.5018% / 0.02501816
93.8 Germanic
4.8 Celtic
1.4 Balkan
With England Roman average added
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.0622% / 0.02062164
73.6 England_Roman
25.4 Germanic
1.0 Baltic
1/4 Germanic is probably about right for me.
:cry:cry:cryQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Very little. That's why there are other 2 samples which aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky
Early Slavs or any other people weren't hermetically sealed from others, you know :p
It is not the same. You are little over half Slavic, rest being southern European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
I am like Macedonian slavsQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
You are like Serbs. Macedonian Slavs are below 50% Slavic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 1.7720% / 0.01771966 | ADC: 0.25x46.0 Balkan 30.8 Slavic 23.2 Greco-Roman
Not much Slavic at all.
Wow we have opposite result. You score 30% Slavic while I score 30% Balkan. Your Greco-Roman is much higher too ofc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vojnik
yea im sorry you got little bitch ass genetics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vojnik
Im kidding I dont even know you. you literally have a litte over 1 grandparent being pure slav, you wanna deny that one grandparent?
It's funny how I score significantly more paleo Balkan than Bosniensis, who scores lot of Greco-Roman admixture.
I get only 2% of this Greco-Roman stuff so I am more Illyrian than he is :)
Looking at it that way, i'm 1/4 Slavic. And of course I can't deny that one grandparent. :D That one grandparent influenced the language over the other 3/4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky
What is the reference for this 'greco-roman' if you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Mycenean and Imperial Roman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vojnik
Slavs had the purest of genetics. If we had slavic samples from before the 5th century AD they would all have uniform results on every gedmatch and G25 calculator. Rest of europeans stole their history and culture and started speaking slavic dialects like latin and greek. Julius Cesar was pure slav and so was Charlemagne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
I ran the calc with the slavic samples but removing each sample being tested from the source.
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad
Distance: 1.7741% / 0.01774127 | ADC: 0.25x
66.0 Slavic
19.2 Baltic
6.6 Germanic
4.6 Celtic
3.6 Balkan
Target: RUS_Sunghir_MA
Distance: 1.9352% / 0.01935198 | ADC: 0.25x
75.0 Slavic
15.4 Baltic
5.0 Celtic
4.6 Turkic
Target: CZE_Early_Slav
Distance: 2.4741% / 0.02474149 | ADC: 0.25x
64.8 Slavic
12.8 Balkan
6.8 Baltic
6.2 Celtic
5.4 Germanic
4.0 Finnic
seems like all slavs had slight celtic substrata.
and Feiichy please change your avatar, i keep feeling like ive accidently highlighted the page.
:D
Target: Fiko0
Distance: 6.5877% / 0.06587725 | ADC: 0.25x
94.8 Greco-Roman
5.2 Turkic
Target: Mingle
Distance: 14.0437% / 0.14043705 | ADC: 0.25x
55.0 Turkic
41.6 Greco-Roman
3.4 Baltic