Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Results v2

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Can we not, I know you are insecure, but let's leave this discussion. It will manifest in some, but probably not in most.

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Lol. Actually I agree with your last part. And I personally don't show it whatsoever, I can send you my photo. Just an interesting subject. Though we are indeed attacked sometimes as Mongols (therefore subhuman in some way), so it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

At almost 3% South Asian would you categorize him/her as part Roma and put him/her in a "just a bit of diversity" bin ?

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No, for Roma I put them in mixed after it surpasses 4%. This person is between 1/8 and more distant, so not that relevant.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Lol. Actually I agree with your last part. And I personally don't show it whatsoever, I can send you my photo. Just an interesting subject. Though we are indeed attacked sometimes as Mongols (therefore subhuman in some way), so it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

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There's nothing uncomfortable about being related to the most advanced people in the world.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

There's nothing uncomfortable about being related to the most advanced people in the world.

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Ok. Sent you a rep comment (a bit too controversial) and also sending you my photo.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Strange logic. Those are linguistic terms. In us it (East Eurasian) is not "Turkic" most of the time (unless recent ancestry from the last 100 years or so) but it's noticeable sometimes, though without both photos and DNA results it's a rather pointless discussion. Chris also thought he should be Asian.

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Turkic admixture is recent in some Europeans, 600-1500 years, and can affect very much the look of some European populations. Finno-Ugric one is more balanced, because the Mongoloid component is old, from Paleolithic. Slavs who assimilated Finno-Ugric populations show such traits, but are not so screaming, plus they are not swarthy. Turkic admixture most of time produce swarthy wogish look.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Turkic admixture most of time produce very swarthy wogish look.

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Can confirm, am example.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

From Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.43
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 West_Med 14.81
4 East_Med 14.49
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 Red_Sea 3.2
7 South_Asian 2.96
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Oceanian 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.37
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06

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That one was from Bacau, my bad. The one below him was from Vrancea, whose results I am also going to post.

While I am still at Bacau samples, here's another one, but without GEDmatch, since it's a donated kit.

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
24.24	27.89	14.20	9.72	16.82	3.08	0	1.03	1.49	0.28	0.76	0	0.48

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Distance to:	Bacau_ind
3.15428280	Romania_Moldova_Nord
3.76953578	Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.24709312	Romania_Crisana
4.45412169	Romania_Transilvania
4.81651326	Romania_Maramures
4.83485263	Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.20941455	Romania_Oltenia
5.58862237	Romania_Banat
5.97488912	Romania_Muntenia
6.18553959	Romania_Dobrogea
6.48234334	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.99467516	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.30157517	Bulgarian
10.47111264	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
11.13796660	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.09344111	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.10390325	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.79684548	Ukrainian_Lviv
25.61376388	Crimean_Tatar
27.65652726	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
29.13511284	Romania_Jewish
33.57124216	Romania_Roma

Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 1.8033% / 1.80329849 | ADC: 0.25x
89.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.6 Romania_Jewish
3.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian, Jewish
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.2190% / 2.21899967 | ADC: 0.25x
68.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
25.2 Romania_Muntenia
4.8 Romania_Crisana
1.2 Crimean_Tatar

Distance to:	Bacau_ind
1.75014285	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
2.51362288	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
3.36370332	Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
3.79357351	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
4.02471117	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
5.35673408	Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
5.57847649	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
5.61996441	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

Can confirm, am example.

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Yours is below average though.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Yours is below average though.

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Results may be but the tan isn't.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Yours is below average though.

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He mean his look.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

The one below him was from Vrancea, whose results I am also going to post.

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Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	NE_African	Sub-Saharan
23.92	23.07	20.63	9.31	15.68	1.32	2.74	1.52	0.53	1.01	0	0.15	0.13

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Distance to:	Vrancea_ind
4.76904603	Romania_Oltenia
5.10830696	Romania_Transilvania
5.73163153	Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.28672411	Romania_Dobrogea
6.37169522	Romania_Banat
6.62083832	Romania_Muntenia
6.94615001	Bulgarian
7.13450769	Romania_Crisana
7.57097748	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
8.45184004	Romania_Maramures
8.96977146	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.17158111	Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.35592860	Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.66438753	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.04522747	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.05801393	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.09006357	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
23.61435580	Ukrainian_Lviv
26.84505355	Crimean_Tatar
27.01988897	Romania_Jewish
29.72197335	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.36788929	Romania_Roma

Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 4.0314% / 4.03143361 | ADC: 0.25x
30.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
29.0 Romania_Transilvania
20.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
15.4 Romania_Oltenia
4.4 Romania_Roma
0.2 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

-Aromanian, Hungarian
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 4.4326% / 4.43256924 | ADC: 0.25x
87.2 Romania_Oltenia
7.8 Romania_Crisana
5.0 Romania_Roma

-Oltenia, Crisana, Transilvania
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 5.0167% / 5.01665884 | ADC: 0.25x
90.2 Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.2 Romania_Roma
2.6 Romania_Dobrogea

Distance to:	Vrancea_ind
4.22814380	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
6.29470412	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
6.81926682	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
7.35243497	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
7.64440972	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
8.25953994	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
9.70001546	Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
10.90740116	Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Turkic admixture is recent in some Europeans, 600-1500 years, and can affect very much the look of some European populations. Finno-Ugric one is more balanced, because the Mongoloid component is old, from Paleolithic. Slavs who assimilated Finno-Ugric populations show such traits, but are not so screaming, plus they are not swarthy. Turkic admixture most of time produce swarthy wogish look.

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Well, Volga Tatars can be very light, can be like you (pretty common), can be slightly darker as well. But I think their EE is not entirely from the Volga Bulgars. Some other Turkics are mixed with dark Caucasoids.

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

Results may be but the tan isn't.

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Lucky bastard

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...69/458/f2e.png

Last one for today comes from Iasi (Romania's Moldavia).



# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.97
2 Baltic 24.41
3 West_Med 19.71
4 East_Med 13.32
5 West_Asian 10.78
6 Red_Sea 3.16
7 East_Asian 2.38
8 Siberian 0.77
9 Amerindian 0.5


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.31
2 Serbian 5.66
3 Bulgarian 7.1
4 Moldavian 9.99
5 Hungarian 12.17
6 Croatian 12.58
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.88
8 Austrian 13.95
9 North_Italian 15.2
10 East_German 15.71
11 Tuscan 16.83
12 French 17.59
13 West_German 17.64
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.89
15 South_Dutch 18.9
16 Portuguese 18.91
17 Spanish_Galicia 18.98
18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.18
19 South_Polish 19.76
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.94


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.9% Moldavian + 36.1% Tuscan @ 3.69
2 61.5% Moldavian + 38.5% North_Italian @ 3.82
3 90.6% Serbian + 9.4% Sardinian @ 4.13
4 69.1% Moldavian + 30.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.4
5 92.3% Romanian + 7.7% French_Basque @ 4.44
6 88.3% Romanian + 11.7% Southwest_French @ 4.45
7 61.4% Croatian + 38.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.53
8 67.7% Moldavian + 32.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.54
9 58% Croatian + 42% Tuscan @ 4.56
10 63.1% Croatian + 36.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.56
11 89.1% Romanian + 10.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.6
12 53.1% Tuscan + 46.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.6
13 87.9% Romanian + 12.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.66
14 52.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.8% West_Sicilian @ 4.74
15 90.3% Romanian + 9.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.77
16 86.6% Romanian + 13.4% East_German @ 4.78
17 91.5% Romanian + 8.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.79
18 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% East_German @ 4.8
19 89.9% Romanian + 10.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.8
20 50.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.81

Distance to:	Iasi_ind
5.39272658	Romania_Oltenia
5.41737021	Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.52317843	Romania_Transilvania
6.80265389	Romania_Crisana
7.11145555	Romania_Banat
7.30035616	Romania_Dobrogea
7.66951759	Romania_Maramures
7.79336898	Romania_Muntenia
7.96314446	Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.01300193	Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.15536020	Bulgarian
8.18860763	Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.19161156	Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.79176888	Aromanian_North-Macedonia
10.55625407	Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
14.30375475	Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.61117997	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.35908940	Ukrainian_Lviv
26.00835250	Crimean_Tatar
28.57579045	Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
29.45320865	Romania_Jewish
33.17838152	Romania_Roma

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.6989% / 3.69891125 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
47.0 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian, Hungarian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 5.0791% / 5.07905817 | ADC: 0.25x
92.0 Romania_Oltenia
5.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.2 Crimean_Tatar

-Oltenia, Crisana, Transilvania
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 5.3636% / 5.36358634 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 Romania_Moldova_Sud
2.0 Crimean_Tatar

Distance to:	Iasi_ind
5.59722253	Romania_Moldavia_Galati
5.93177882	Romania_Moldavia_Bacau
6.24691124	Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
6.73087661	Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea
6.92288957	Romania_Moldavia_Iasi
6.99456217	Romania_Moldavia_Neamt
8.53392055	Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
9.40059041	Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Last one for today comes from Iasi (Romania's Moldavia).

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From the city?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, Volga Tatars can be very light, can be like you (pretty common), can be slightly darker as well. But I think their EE is not entirely from the Volga Bulgars. Some other Turkics are mixed with dark Caucasoids.

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Volga Tatars live in the area surounded by many Finno-Ugric populations, plus exist other Turkic populations in that region like Chuvash and Bashkir who have way more dark types than any Finno-Ugric population from the Volga region.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Volga Tatars live in the area surounded by many Finno-Ugric populations, plus exist other Turkic populations in that region like Chuvash and Bashkir who have way more dark types than any Finno-Ugric population from the Volga region.

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Not sure about Chuvash being darker than the others. They're very similar to Mari people for example. Bashkirs are more Eastern both genetically and geographically (Yuzhnoye Priuralye), so it's no surprise.
Let's not derail the thread any further, I admit I was the one who started.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Not sure about Chuvash being darker than the others. They're very similar to Mari people for example. Bashkirs are more Eastern both genetically and geographically (Yuzhnoye Priuralye), so it's no surprise.
Let's not derail the thread any further, I admit I was the one who started.

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Well, I was 6 years ago in that region, so I managed to see some local people.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

From the city?

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Could be, I only know the county and nothing more specific for this one.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

7 East_Asian 2.38
8 Siberian 0.77

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMndPTS0KLY

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMndPTS0KLY

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There's also some Amerindian on top that you forgot to quote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgD57y4Tkng

Romanian from Botosani, grandparent of another one from Suceava that I've posted in the past.


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40
2 North_Atlantic 18.23
3 West_Med 15.66
4 East_Med 10.78
5 West_Asian 8.32
6 South_Asian 2.34
7 Amerindian 1.93
8 Siberian 1
9 Oceanian 0.99
10 East_Asian 0.76


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 8.28
2 Croatian 9.02
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.27
4 Ukrainian 10.76
5 Southwest_Russian 12.34
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.63
7 South_Polish 12.69
8 Polish 14.39
9 Russian_Smolensk 14.72
10 Serbian 14.74
11 Hungarian 14.8
12 Estonian_Polish 14.95
13 Kargopol_Russian 15.72
14 Erzya 15.93
15 Belorussian 16.23
16 Romanian 16.54
17 Bulgarian 17.22
18 East_German 18.65
19 Austrian 19.2
20 Tatar 19.39


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Erzya + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 6.15
2 62.6% Erzya + 37.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.24
3 74.3% Moldavian + 25.7% Erzya @ 6.59
4 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Cyprian @ 6.7
5 70.3% Southwest_Russian + 29.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.77
6 68.6% Erzya + 31.4% Central_Greek @ 6.81
7 86.1% Ukrainian + 13.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.83
8 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Samaritan @ 6.84
9 71.2% Lithuanian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 6.86
10 81.4% Southwest_Russian + 18.6% Cyprian @ 6.88
11 69.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.89
12 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Assyrian @ 6.9
13 52.8% Kargopol_Russian + 47.2% Bulgarian @ 6.92
14 82.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.9% Sardinian @ 6.92
15 51.1% Erzya + 48.9% Romanian @ 6.92
16 75.5% Southwest_Russian + 24.5% Central_Greek @ 6.92
17 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 6.93
18 71.5% Erzya + 28.5% South_Italian @ 6.94
19 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.96
20 77.2% Estonian_Polish + 22.8% Cyprian @ 6.97

They have comparable levels of N_Atlantic+Baltic, meaning that the rest of the 3gp had a similar genetic profile:
https://i.imgur.com/olmb2BD.png

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Romanian from Botosani, grandparent of another one from Suceava that I've posted in the past.


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40
2 North_Atlantic 18.23
3 West_Med 15.66
4 East_Med 10.78
5 West_Asian 8.32
6 South_Asian 2.34
7 Amerindian 1.93
8 Siberian 1
9 Oceanian 0.99
10 East_Asian 0.76


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 8.28
2 Croatian 9.02
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.27
4 Ukrainian 10.76
5 Southwest_Russian 12.34
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.63
7 South_Polish 12.69
8 Polish 14.39
9 Russian_Smolensk 14.72
10 Serbian 14.74
11 Hungarian 14.8
12 Estonian_Polish 14.95
13 Kargopol_Russian 15.72
14 Erzya 15.93
15 Belorussian 16.23
16 Romanian 16.54
17 Bulgarian 17.22
18 East_German 18.65
19 Austrian 19.2
20 Tatar 19.39


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Erzya + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 6.15
2 62.6% Erzya + 37.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.24
3 74.3% Moldavian + 25.7% Erzya @ 6.59
4 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Cyprian @ 6.7
5 70.3% Southwest_Russian + 29.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.77
6 68.6% Erzya + 31.4% Central_Greek @ 6.81
7 86.1% Ukrainian + 13.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.83
8 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Samaritan @ 6.84
9 71.2% Lithuanian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 6.86
10 81.4% Southwest_Russian + 18.6% Cyprian @ 6.88
11 69.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.89
12 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Assyrian @ 6.9
13 52.8% Kargopol_Russian + 47.2% Bulgarian @ 6.92
14 82.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.9% Sardinian @ 6.92
15 51.1% Erzya + 48.9% Romanian @ 6.92
16 75.5% Southwest_Russian + 24.5% Central_Greek @ 6.92
17 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 6.93
18 71.5% Erzya + 28.5% South_Italian @ 6.94
19 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.96
20 77.2% Estonian_Polish + 22.8% Cyprian @ 6.97

They have comparable levels of N_Atlantic+Baltic, meaning that the rest of the 3gp had a similar genetic profile:
https://i.imgur.com/olmb2BD.png

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Very much Slavic. This region seem very northern.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

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Will you do the test someday? 23andme V5 not worth it, Myheritage is now half price and if you decide to test I recommend them.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Very much Slavic. This region seem very northern.

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They have foreign ancestry (Rusyn and Polish) from the late 18th century, but that's too distant to be considered mixed. But yeah, Botosani and Suceava are the Northern-most. They must have assimilated a lot of Ukrainian/Rusyns in the past.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Very much Slavic. This region seem very northern.

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Seems to have recent Slavic admixture, for Botoșani, and in general for both Romanian Moldova and Republic he is totally atypical with such high Baltic score.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Will you do the test someday? 23andme V5 not worth it, Myheritage is now half price and if you decide to test I recommend them.

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Not now, but I want to test my parents too, not only me.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Not now, but I want to test my parents too, not only me.

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You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

They have foreign ancestry (Rusyn and Polish) from the late 18th century, but that's too distant to be considered mixed. But yeah, Botosani and Suceava are the Northern-most. They must have assimilated a lot of Ukrainian/Rusyns in the past.

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Rusyn ancestry can go back as early as 15th century. Also 40% Baltic now that's something, new record I guess.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

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Finances have been difficult since Russians stopped buying Moldovan wine.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Seems to have recent Slavic admixture, for Botoșani, and in general for both Romanian Moldova and Republic he is totally atypical with such high Baltic score.

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Both you and Stearsolina should take both N_Atlantic and Baltic into account, considering that Ukrainians score about 25% NA and 45% Baltic on average. So having 40% Baltic and 18% North Atlantic (below the average for Moldova and Romania) indicates that the components were not distributed in a balanced manner. This is a 23andme v5 result, so only 58k SNPs for Eurogenes K13.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

Finances have been difficult since Russians stopped buying Moldovan wine.

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You guys shouldn't bully and peer pressure. If I only worked in Moldova, getting a genetic test would be one of my last priorities.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

You guys shouldn't bully and peer pressure. If I only worked in Moldova, getting a genetic test would be one of my last priorities.

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I know and I respect his decision, I make a Romanian salary and I'm not asking my entire family to swab their cheeks. Tho I should to figure out who has Kraut blood.

It's still funny tho.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

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I need money now, and even if I will test only myself, I will not be satisfied. I want to test both parents too, since they both are full ethnic Moldavians from rural area, but from two neighboring district.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

I need money now, and even if I will test only myself, I will not be satisfied. I want to test both parents too, since they both are full ethnic Moldavians from rural area, but from two neighboring district.

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Are there any results from your districts?

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

I know and I respect his decision, I make a Romanian salary and I'm not asking my entire family to swab their cheeks. Tho I should to figure out who has Kraut blood.

It's still funny tho.

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Probably the side from Suceava, if I were yo guess.

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@Ion Basescul, you have these two, don't you?

Spoiler!

Population
North_Atlantic 28.01 Pct
Baltic 33.71 Pct
West_Med 12.74 Pct
West_Asian 9.95 Pct
East_Med 10.04 Pct
Red_Sea 1.66 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.26 Pct
Siberian 2.01 Pct
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4
2 Moldavian 4.15
3 Hungarian 5.07
4 Serbian 8.17
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.85
6 South_Polish 9.24
7 Austrian 9.57
8 East_German 9.87
9 Ukrainian 10.24
10 Romanian 11.96
11 Polish 12.94
12 Southwest_Russian 13.56
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.68
14 Bulgarian 14.31
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.13
16 Estonian_Polish 15.85
17 Belorussian 16.28
18 West_German 17.03
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.29
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% North_Swedish @ 2.4
2 57% Moldavian + 43% Hungarian @ 2.46
3 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Swedish @ 2.51
4 76.2% South_Polish + 23.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.53
5 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Norwegian @ 2.54
6 56.8% South_Polish + 43.2% Romanian @ 2.59
7 85.2% Moldavian + 14.8% North_German @ 2.64
8 52.2% Serbian + 47.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64
9 62.5% Romanian + 37.5% Estonian @ 2.65
10 92.1% Croatian + 7.9% Nogay @ 2.68
11 62.1% Romanian + 37.9% Finnish @ 2.68
12 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Danish @ 2.7
13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Dutch @ 2.71
14 68.9% Serbian + 31.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.74
15 63.5% Serbian + 36.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.76
16 53.4% Serbian + 46.6% South_Polish @ 2.77
17 77.1% South_Polish + 22.9% Central_Greek @ 2.78
18 79.5% South_Polish + 20.5% South_Italian @ 2.85
19 71.7% Serbian + 28.3% Estonian @ 2.86
20 56.2% Serbian + 43.8% Ukrainian @ 2.88


Population
North_Atlantic 25.50 Pct
Baltic 39.14 Pct
West_Med 13.68 Pct
West_Asian 10.09 Pct
East_Med 7.49 Pct
Red_Sea 0.57 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African 0.10 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.54
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.94
3 Moldavian 6
4 Ukrainian 6.1
5 South_Polish 6.62
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.25
7 Southwest_Russian 9.28
8 Polish 9.46
9 Hungarian 9.67
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.97
11 Estonian_Polish 11.78
12 Belorussian 12.61
13 East_German 12.69
14 Serbian 12.98
15 Kargopol_Russian 13.18
16 Austrian 13.49
17 Erzya 14.72
18 Romanian 16.28
19 Estonian 16.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Georgian @ 2.26
2 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Armenian @ 2.27
3 90.6% Ukrainian + 9.4% Abhkasian @ 2.29
4 61.8% Moldavian + 38.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.31
5 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Turkish @ 2.4
6 50.5% Moldavian + 49.5% Ukrainian @ 2.44
7 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 2.46
8 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Balkar @ 2.47
9 89.4% Ukrainian + 10.6% Ossetian @ 2.48
10 66.2% Moldavian + 33.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
11 62.2% Moldavian + 37.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
12 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.58
13 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% Adygei @ 2.58
14 56.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.7% Moldavian @ 2.59
15 92.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.4% Armenian @ 2.63
16 88.3% Ukrainian + 11.7% Kabardin @ 2.63
17 79.7% Croatian + 20.3% Erzya @ 2.64
18 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Kumyk @ 2.65
19 92.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.1% Abhkasian @ 2.65
20 89.2% Ukrainian + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.67

I found them in an txt file from 2017-18, for some damn reason I listed them as being from Moldova.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Leto

Are there any results from your districts?

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Only these ones from my district, Fălești, Central-North region. But only 23andme results.

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https://i.imgur.com/XhwSrtO.png
https://i.imgur.com/91vwQ0A.png

Plus this one with half ancestry from here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6777411

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Both you and Stearsolina should take both N_Atlantic and Baltic into account, considering that Ukrainians score about 25% NA and 45% Baltic on average. So having 40% Baltic and 18% North Atlantic (below the average for Moldova and Romania) indicates that the components were not distributed in a balanced manner. This is a 23andme v5 result, so only 58k SNPs for Eurogenes K13.

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Right.I didn't even notice low NA, it's unusualy low. Might be problem with V5 data.
Knez 01 also had same problem high Baltic and very low NA (lowest overall), and it was bit more balanced after conversion to V3.

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Originally Posted by Leto

@Ion Basescul, you have these two, don't you?

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Population
North_Atlantic 28.01 Pct
Baltic 33.71 Pct
West_Med 12.74 Pct
West_Asian 9.95 Pct
East_Med 10.04 Pct
Red_Sea 1.66 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.26 Pct
Siberian 2.01 Pct
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4
2 Moldavian 4.15
3 Hungarian 5.07
4 Serbian 8.17
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.85
6 South_Polish 9.24
7 Austrian 9.57
8 East_German 9.87
9 Ukrainian 10.24
10 Romanian 11.96
11 Polish 12.94
12 Southwest_Russian 13.56
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.68
14 Bulgarian 14.31
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.13
16 Estonian_Polish 15.85
17 Belorussian 16.28
18 West_German 17.03
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.29
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% North_Swedish @ 2.4
2 57% Moldavian + 43% Hungarian @ 2.46
3 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Swedish @ 2.51
4 76.2% South_Polish + 23.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.53
5 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Norwegian @ 2.54
6 56.8% South_Polish + 43.2% Romanian @ 2.59
7 85.2% Moldavian + 14.8% North_German @ 2.64
8 52.2% Serbian + 47.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64
9 62.5% Romanian + 37.5% Estonian @ 2.65
10 92.1% Croatian + 7.9% Nogay @ 2.68
11 62.1% Romanian + 37.9% Finnish @ 2.68
12 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Danish @ 2.7
13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Dutch @ 2.71
14 68.9% Serbian + 31.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.74
15 63.5% Serbian + 36.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.76
16 53.4% Serbian + 46.6% South_Polish @ 2.77
17 77.1% South_Polish + 22.9% Central_Greek @ 2.78
18 79.5% South_Polish + 20.5% South_Italian @ 2.85
19 71.7% Serbian + 28.3% Estonian @ 2.86
20 56.2% Serbian + 43.8% Ukrainian @ 2.88


Population
North_Atlantic 25.50 Pct
Baltic 39.14 Pct
West_Med 13.68 Pct
West_Asian 10.09 Pct
East_Med 7.49 Pct
Red_Sea 0.57 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African 0.10 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.54
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.94
3 Moldavian 6
4 Ukrainian 6.1
5 South_Polish 6.62
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.25
7 Southwest_Russian 9.28
8 Polish 9.46
9 Hungarian 9.67
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.97
11 Estonian_Polish 11.78
12 Belorussian 12.61
13 East_German 12.69
14 Serbian 12.98
15 Kargopol_Russian 13.18
16 Austrian 13.49
17 Erzya 14.72
18 Romanian 16.28
19 Estonian 16.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Georgian @ 2.26
2 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Armenian @ 2.27
3 90.6% Ukrainian + 9.4% Abhkasian @ 2.29
4 61.8% Moldavian + 38.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.31
5 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Turkish @ 2.4
6 50.5% Moldavian + 49.5% Ukrainian @ 2.44
7 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 2.46
8 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Balkar @ 2.47
9 89.4% Ukrainian + 10.6% Ossetian @ 2.48
10 66.2% Moldavian + 33.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
11 62.2% Moldavian + 37.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
12 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.58
13 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% Adygei @ 2.58
14 56.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.7% Moldavian @ 2.59
15 92.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.4% Armenian @ 2.63
16 88.3% Ukrainian + 11.7% Kabardin @ 2.63
17 79.7% Croatian + 20.3% Erzya @ 2.64
18 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Kumyk @ 2.65
19 92.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.1% Abhkasian @ 2.65
20 89.2% Ukrainian + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.67

I found them in an txt file from 2017-18, for some damn reason I listed them as being from Moldova.

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I am not sure I have the first one, need to check closer (send GEDmatch if you have and I'll ask them), but the second one is a 3/4 Moldovan Ukrainian from Riscani district and 1/4 from Poltava Ukraine.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6797716