Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.9590% / 0.02958955
42.6 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
36.8 Indigenous_Mexican:Nahua
11.4 Jew:Mountain_Jew
6.2 Moroccan:Moroccan
3.0 West_African:Mandenka
I thought I'd score Sephardic Jew lol
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Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.9590% / 0.02958955
42.6 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
36.8 Indigenous_Mexican:Nahua
11.4 Jew:Mountain_Jew
6.2 Moroccan:Moroccan
3.0 West_African:Mandenka
I thought I'd score Sephardic Jew lol
Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 3.9167% / 0.03916703
33.6 Iranian_Bandari
32.2 Greek
22.0 Russian
12.2 Spanish&Portuguese
Target: UpsilanderScaled
Distance: 2.3036% / 0.02303584
69.0 German
15.8 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
15.2 Lithuanian:VZ
The usual Basque+Baltic shenanigan now.
Rothaer calculator:
Target: UpsilanderScaled
Distance: 6.4580% / 0.06457994
50.2 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
33.0 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.4 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
7.4 CHG=GEO_CHG
Distance to: UpsilanderScaled
0.20543035 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.25735219 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
0.28198627 CHG=GEO_CHG
0.30641039 Natufian=Levant_Natufian
0.36344610 WHG=LUX_Loschbour
0.47955070 S_Asian_HG=Jarawa
0.49057605 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.52741316 Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso
0.62591413 EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.63631639 OHG=AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4
0.78794764 SSA=Yoruba
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.5961% / 0.01596141
84.0 Spanish&Portuguese
12.2 German
2.4 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.8 Ethiopian
0.6 Georgian
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.7015% / 0.01701534 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.2 Spanish&Portuguese
11.8 German
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0170% / 0.01698376
79.1 Spanish&Portuguese
16.8 Jew
4.1 Moroccan
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0184% / 0.01839139 | ADC: 0.5x RC
87.3 Spanish&Portuguese
12.7 Jew
Gonna apply for that citizenship any day now...
Target: Balboa
Distance: 4.6201% / 0.04620060
91.2 Italian
4.6 Jew
4.2 Spanish&Portuguese
with Sardinian:
Target: Balboa
Distance: 1.4188% / 0.01418825
53.2 Sardinian
46.8 Greek
Distance to: Vessna_scaled
0.01944126 Russian:Voronez
0.01946413 Lithuanian:PA
0.02018550 Belarusian
0.02022907 Russian:Orel
0.02061990 Lithuanian:VA
0.02187900 Ukrainian
0.02235749 Russian:Kursk
0.02321244 Russian:Tver
0.02360934 Russian:Smolensk
0.02480124 Lithuanian:RA
0.02672610 Poland
0.02945907 Lithuanian:VZ
0.03497607 Lithuanian:SZ
0.03704117 Lithuanian:PZ
0.04506353 Russian:Kostroma
0.07217526 German
0.07275818 Russian:Pinega
0.12334144 Greek:Central_Macedonia
0.12622413 Spanish&Portuguese:Galicia
0.12645240 Spanish&Portuguese:Castilla_Y_Leon
0.12653395 Italian:Liguria
0.12757740 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
0.12953503 Spanish&Portuguese:Aragon
0.12984471 Spanish&Portuguese:Portuguese
0.13081140 Spanish&Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.3653% / 0.01365285
46.6 Lithuanian:RA
21.2 Russian:Tver
18.6 Lithuanian:VA
6.0 Greek:Peloponnese
5.2 Russian:Voronez
1.0 Lithuanian:VZ
1.0 Yemenite:Al_Jawf
0.4 Moroccan:Moroccan
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.4778% / 0.01477805 | ADC: 0.5x RC
41.6 Lithuanian:VA
24.4 Ukrainian
17.6 Russian:Tver
16.4 Russian:Voronez
Target: NightmareCityk15
Distance: 1.1894% / 0.01189369 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Spanish&Portuguese
19.6 SSA
9.0 Native_Brazilian
9.4 German
5.4 Moroccan
3.6 Bantu_S.W.
1.8 Biaka
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.2108% / 0.01210776 | R5P
32.6 Spanish&Portuguese
32.2 Italian
19.6 Lithuanian
10.4 Moroccan
5.2 Ethiopian
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.2042% / 0.01204174
36.2 Spanish&Portuguese
21.6 Italian
18.4 Lithuanian
10.2 Moroccan
6.6 Greek
5.2 Ethiopian
1.8 German
Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.05260878 Spanish&Portuguese:Portuguese
0.05416248 Spanish&Portuguese:Galicia
0.05452931 Spanish&Portuguese:Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05538946 Spanish&Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
0.06053305 Italian:Liguria
0.06767110 Spanish&Portuguese:Aragon
0.06905960 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
0.07108512 Italian:Lombardy
0.07343476 Greek:Thessaly
0.07404977 Greek:Central_Macedonia
0.07640087 Italian:Marche
0.07915988 Jew:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07945117 Italian:Lazio
0.08039836 Jew:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08165232 Italian:Molise
0.08182855 Jew:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08301181 Jew:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08307818 Jew:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08529900 German
0.08614986 Greek:Peloponnese
0.08654417 Greek:Izmir
0.09055798 Jew:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09635735 Jew:Moroccan_Jew
0.09769199 Jew:Italian_Jew
0.09819302 Greek:Crete
Good!
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 4.1625% / 0.04162506 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.4 Georgian:Imer
24.4 Russian:Pinega
15.2 Iranian_Mazandarani
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 4.3404% / 0.04340376 | ADC: 1x RC
57.0 Georgian:Imer
24.4 Russian:Kostroma
18.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.5698% / 0.06569819 | ADC: 2x RC
53.0 Georgian:Imer
47.0 Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.07633843 Georgian:Imer
0.07896384 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.07951794 Iranian_Fars
0.07959918 Georgian:Laz
0.08547098 Iranian_Lor
0.08628226 Iranian_Seyyed
0.08810969 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.09557629 Jew:Georgian_Jew
0.09994701 Jew:Mountain_Jew
0.10091198 Greek:Central_Anatolia
0.10548354 Jew:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.10596943 Greek:Crete
0.10647090 Jew:Iranian_Jew
0.10685488 Jew:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.10743055 Jew:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.10775032 Jew:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.10894401 Jew:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.10932471 Syrian
0.11005092 Greek:Izmir
0.11070971 Greek:Kos
0.11285380 Italian:Molise
0.11370317 Jew:Syrian_Jew
0.11420483 Greek:Thessaly
0.11546727 Greek:Peloponnese
0.11642667 Greek:Central_Macedonia
Caucasus/Iran, no semites there
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 4.1747% / 0.04174692
60.8 German
37.6 Jew:Moroccan_Jew
1.6 Jew:Ethiopian_Jew
Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.06642263 Greek:Central_Macedonia
0.07394146 German
0.07615142 Jew:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07697683 Jew:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07889387 Jew:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.07942838 Jew:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08117077 Jew:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08705465 Jew:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09370070 Greek:Crete
0.09389843 Jew:Italian_Jew
0.09769043 Jew:Sephardic_Jew
0.09848959 Jew:Moroccan_Jew
0.10594615 Jew:Romaniote_Jew
0.10968701 Poland
0.11440977 Jew:Libyan_Jew
0.11662544 Jew:Tunisian_Jew
0.11930657 Jew:Syrian_Jew
0.12583854 Greek:Central_Anatolia
0.12761516 Belarusian
0.13490766 Lithuanian:PA
0.13811927 Lithuanian:VA
0.14545382 Lithuanian:VZ
0.14624735 Lithuanian:RA
0.14905028 Jew:Georgian_Jew
0.15126172 Lithuanian:SZ
I'm German??
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.6908% / 0.01690783
74.6 Spanish&Portuguese
20.4 Italian
2.0 Tunisian
1.8 Lithuanian
0.8 Moroccan
0.4 Iranian_Bandari
Not even 0.1 Jewish?
Target: Geba_scaled
Distance: 2.1829% / 0.02182949
42.2 Lithuanian
35.0 Russian
22.8 Greek
Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 2.5293% / 0.02529282
94.2 German
5.8 Lithuanian
Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.02585337 German
0.05493772 Poland
0.06138565 Ukrainian
0.06728849 Russian:Orel
0.06802011 Russian:Voronez
0.06900138 Russian:Kursk
0.07286652 Russian:Smolensk
0.07297088 Russian:Tver
0.07344523 Belarusian
0.07404902 Lithuanian:PA
0.07762645 Lithuanian:VA
0.07923036 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
0.08263251 Spanish&Portuguese:Galicia
0.08264737 Russian:Kostroma
0.08268714 Spanish&Portuguese:Aragon
0.08462817 Lithuanian:VZ
0.08519300 Spanish&Portuguese:Castilla_Y_Leon
0.08553800 Lithuanian:RA
0.08684507 Spanish&Portuguese:Portuguese
0.08837117 Spanish&Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
0.09001563 Lithuanian:SZ
0.09061373 Lithuanian:PZ
0.09342206 Italian:Liguria
0.09428227 Italian:Lombardy
0.10044227 Greek:Central_Macedonia
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.1870% / 0.02187010
49.2 Russian
34.6 Greek
16.2 Italian
0.022 Dušan_scaled = 51% Russian:Smolensk + 49% Greek:Thessaly
0.023 Dušan_scaled = 50% Greek:Thessaly + 50% Belarusian
0.023 Dušan_scaled = 51% Greek:Central_Macedonia + 49% Russian:Smolensk
It gives me Greek, no Jewish. Why, though.
Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 1.9828% / 0.01982795
68.2 Russian
26.6 Greek
5.2 Lithuanian
Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.02989827 Ukrainian
0.03335008 Russian:Orel
0.03434310 Poland
0.03448813 Russian:Voronez
0.03497676 Russian:Kursk
0.03915299 Russian:Smolensk
0.03972882 Russian:Tver
0.04186630 Belarusian
0.04771268 Russian:Kostroma
0.04864868 Lithuanian:PA
0.05313711 Lithuanian:VA
0.05753601 Lithuanian:RA
0.05938066 German
0.05957648 Lithuanian:VZ
0.06604684 Lithuanian:SZ
0.06727182 Lithuanian:PZ
0.07561574 Russian:Pinega
0.09695310 Greek:Central_Macedonia
0.10189041 Italian:Liguria
0.10531627 Greek:Thessaly
0.10662143 Spanish&Portuguese:Castilla_Y_Leon
0.10690494 Spanish&Portuguese:Galicia
0.10745651 Italian:Lombardy
0.10840305 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
0.10960116 Spanish&Portuguese:Portuguese
Maybe if you remove Greek references from sources some Jewish appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repent
G25 is something to play with more than a accurate way to find real ancestries, at least just with a single calculator or model.
It is extremely difficult, almost impossible, to make a model that works really well for all people or all ethnic origins, but by observing many results from different calculators and models of the same person, analyzing the trends they show, and comparing them with the results of others, we can eventually get closer to understanding how our "genetics" are formed in terms of possible ancestry.
Mine:
Target: Moody_scaled
Distance: 1.2099% / 0.01209940
67.0 Jew
11.0 Yemenite
8.6 Tunisian
6.6 Iranian_Seyyed
6.0 Georgian
0.8 Ethiopian
happycow's
Target: TimA_scaled
Distance: 1.2317% / 0.01231707
35.6 Jew
26.2 Greek
11.8 Moroccan
9.2 Georgian
5.8 Libyan
4.6 Syrian
4.0 Iranian_Bandari
2.6 Iraqi
0.2 Ethiopian
Target: Repent:RealG25_scaledQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Distance: 2.0851% / 0.02085058
27.6 Russian:Smolensk
19.8 Italian:Molise
19.0 Russian:Tver
12.0 Russian:Pinega
10.0 Lithuanian:RA
9.6 Russian:Kostroma
2.0 Jew:Georgian_Jew
Or
Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 2.0851% / 0.02085059
68.4 Russian
20.0 Italian
9.8 Lithuanian
1.8 Jew
+
Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 2.1606% / 0.02160570 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.6 Ukrainian
30.2 Russian:Kostroma
14.2 Jew:Ashkenazi_Russia
Or
Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 2.1606% / 0.02160570 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.6 Ukrainian
30.2 Russian
14.2 Jew
Target: _scaled
Distance: 2.8316% / 0.02831563 | ADC: 2x RC
52.8 German
47.2 Greek
Target: _scaled
Distance: 1.7653% / 0.01765293 | ADC: 1x RC
51.4 Greek
39.6 Ukrainian
9.0 German
Distance to: _scaled
0.04872725 German
0.05249664 Greek:Central_Macedonia
0.05724926 Italian:Liguria
0.05964179 Greek:Thessaly
0.06042923 Poland
0.06136851 Ukrainian
0.06476867 Italian:Lombardy
0.06921415 Russian:Orel
0.06924394 Russian:Voronez
0.07080354 Spanish&Portuguese:Galicia
0.07136133 Spanish&Portuguese:Castilla_Y_Leon
0.07212592 Russian:Kursk
0.07224321 Spanish&Portuguese:Portuguese
0.07295000 Spanish&Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
0.07298979 Italian:Marche
0.07459912 Russian:Smolensk
0.07468437 Greek:Peloponnese
0.07480154 Spanish&Portuguese:Aragon
0.07550150 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
0.07714730 Belarusian
0.07917161 Greek:Izmir
0.08049581 Italian:Lazio
0.08066531 Italian:Molise
0.08126657 Russian:Tver
0.08399338 Lithuanian:PA
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.9728% / 0.01972752
40.6 Italian:Molise
16.6 Greek:Peloponnese
16.0 Greek:Central_Macedonia
14.0 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
9.8 Georgian:Laz
2.8 Russian:Pinega
0.2 Ethiopian:Anuak
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.7649% / 0.01764890
88.2 Spanish&Portuguese
6.2 Lithuanian
5.6 Moroccan
I don't have any Jewish in me... Unlike the common myth that the Cristãos Novos mixed with the Old Christians, it seems that most of them escaped to other parts of Europe and the Globe (New World and Ottoman Empire).
You are over one-twentieth Moroccan though. And where would the Lithuanian come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cernunnos
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 3.2236% / 0.03223562
81.4 German
18.6 Italian:Lombardy
Maybe a little Visigoth/Suebi excess compared to the average Portuguese but he would need to run in aggregate mode also to see what region he gets of Iberian precisely. Germanic admix is often described as Basque+Baltic in these calcultors, which is just a mathematical effect because they are somewhere in between.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen
True Balto-Mediterranean
Target: scaled
Distance: 1.5960% / 0.01596019
47.6 Greek:Peloponnese
19.8 Lithuanian:PZ
14.4 Lithuanian:SZ
9.4 Lithuanian:PA
8.8 Spanish&Portuguese:Cantabria
From your stinky and hairy ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen
No need to be rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cernunnos
No need to provoke...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen
In some calculators I do get a bit of Basque excess for a Portuguese and western Iberian in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petalpusher
That would make sense then, but what do you get here as region? It should read as "Spanish&Portuguese:Aragon" for example, in aggregate mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cernunnos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
I see no sufficient reason to ignore or invalidate the results with unofficial ("simulated") coordinates.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
First of all: I think it's correct and commendable for some to pay Davidski for the official coordinates.
I didn't do that; my country's currency is terrible, and I would have to pay for currency conversion and transfer fees to the bankers. I'm sorry, but since the "simulated coordinates" work well for pre-selected models (discarding improbable samples), I'm satisfied with what I have.
Furthermore, I opened a thread asking forum members to show results from different coordinates of their own (official, simulated, K13, K15, etc.), but I think I wasn't clear, as nobody understood (my English is not so good) or wanted to participate in my test correctly.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ht=coordinates
Some questions:
Is the official one really more accurate than the simulated ones?
If so, which simulated ones?
What does it mean to be accurate?
Is it detecting more populations or fewer?
If the simulated data is less accurate, does that mean it produces false results every time?
By making the necessary adjustments to the calculator model, is it possible to obtain reliable results?
We know that "raw data" is more sensitive, and this has a smaller distance and detects more populations in large models.
The "scaled" data already has an artificial distance to avoid noise.
If the simulated data is worse because it detects more, one has the option to manually increase the distance in Vahaduo.
In my last participations in this forum, I have used my simulated data from different sources to show that they are consistent, although K13 and K15 detect less than the K36 simulated data and the MyHeritage simulated data. And the distances of the MH data are usually smaller, but this can be solved by artificially adding distance, right?
Finally, with the appropriate models, I get results very similar to my MH v0.95 results, which are atypical for Brazilians from the region where I was born. And the results are supported by my family history, so my "simulated" G25 coordinates give me predicted results.
At least regarding the question: By making the necessary adjustments to the calculator model, is it possible to obtain reliable results?
The answer seems to be "yes."
If my result were random, for example, showing a high percentage of Japanese or Indian, then it would be a lottery. But the imprecision is not absurd, sometimes linking me to the populations of southeastern Europe, with whom I share genetic similarities due to my Mediterranean and Slavic ancestry.
And it is known that even those with official coordinates need to make such adjustments.
With other coordinates:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabricius
Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 1.8658% / 0.01865789
47.4 Spanish&Portuguese
15.8 Lithuanian
12.8 Italian
10.2 German
8.4 Moroccan
5.2 Ethiopian
0.2 Greek
Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 1.7274% / 0.01727362
47.6 Spanish&Portuguese
18.8 Italian
17.2 Lithuanian
6.8 Moroccan
6.0 Ethiopian
3.6 German
Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 1.5534% / 0.01553421
47.4 Spanish&Portuguese
20.6 Italian
16.6 Lithuanian
10.8 Moroccan
4.6 Ethiopian
Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 1.2042% / 0.01204174
36.2 Spanish&Portuguese
21.6 Italian
18.4 Lithuanian
10.2 Moroccan
6.6 Greek
5.2 Ethiopian
1.8 German
Jew only appear to me if I take off Italian, Greek and Georgian.
Italian is not good I take off, supposedly I have Italian ancestors and it is an genetic group of mine on MyHeritage, but we know Italian overlaps Jew.
I believe this "Russian" came with the Ashkenazi as well. The "Lithuanian" (Baltic DNA) is not necessarily from the Ashkenazi, I believe it is more recent either from Prussia or from Germans in Latvia.
Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 1.9108% / 0.01910757
57.4 Spanish&Portuguese
12.8 German
12.8 Lithuanian
8.2 Moroccan
5.0 Ethiopian
2.2 Russian
1.6 Jew
Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 1.8258% / 0.01825767
60.2 Spanish&Portuguese
17.4 Lithuanian
6.6 Moroccan
6.0 Ethiopian
6.0 German
3.2 Jew
0.6 Russian
Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 1.6683% / 0.01668303
61.4 Spanish&Portuguese
18.4 Lithuanian
11.0 Moroccan
4.8 Jew
4.4 Ethiopian
Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 1.3810% / 0.01381026
52.6 Spanish&Portuguese
20.0 Lithuanian
11.0 Jew
8.6 Moroccan
5.2 Ethiopian
1.4 Russian
1.2 German
I still think the model is good because the mainly populations of my result, Ashkenazi absence is only a detail.
Indeed the Ashkenazi is the best reason (the most reasonable possible cause) to my atypical Slavic DNA for a Southeastern Brazilian, but my Turk is bigger than the Levantine, and this guy Ashkenazi, my ancestor, was or could be a Jew by culture, but genetically a mix of Latins, Greeks, Slavs, Turks etc.