Urnfield were not Celts. Hallstatt from Alps will be same like Austria IA. Those in Bohemia for eg and northern France are mixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingle Bell
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Urnfield were not Celts. Hallstatt from Alps will be same like Austria IA. Those in Bohemia for eg and northern France are mixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingle Bell
yeah ik, Urnfiled were more like Pre-Proto-celt, but i mean the first waves to iberia were from UrnfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ate_Bronze.gif
hallsttat elements just start to appear in West/Nw and center in the IA
Not entire Portugal i guess, and NW Iberia also includes part of Portugal (North) which has higher germanic than many parts of Spain, indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
The only part of spain with as much suebi impact as portugal is galizaQuote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore
Sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraviXi99
Source
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.5653% / 0.01565265
45.6 Proto-Celts
20.2 Iberia_BA
17.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
15.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
2.0 Imperial_Romans
Proto-Celt samples replaced with Gaul samples
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.8776% / 0.01877642
37.2 Gauls
27.4 Iberia_BA
15.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
13.4 Imperial_Romans
6.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
With everyone
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.5266% / 0.01526624
40.4 Proto-Celts
17.6 Iberia_BA
17.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
15.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
7.6 Gauls
1.8 Imperial_Romans
If i remenber haplo I (the germanic branchs) likes peaks in Asturias, Galiza and Minho, correct if im wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore
omg :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingle Bell
Yeah but anyway the impact islow, only 30.000 suebis settled permanentlly (In this time Iberian was habited by ~7.000.00 of persons)Quote:
Originally Posted by DraviXi99
There must be some genetic study for Galicia in this regard, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore
I don't really believe this,maybe portugal lost a bit of its germanicity,but here we conserve a ancient version of it (colonization),i guess that's the only place that impact survived.
I guess there is,but i would say there's more of it in portugal than in galiza.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallop
Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Are those really Celts?
Proto-Germans appear closer to Slavs than to them.
https://sun9-26.userapi.com/impg/sEj...c9c&type=album
I guessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraviXi99
I've Overhauld the model, because of all of the information provided here! Austrian Celts added, Germanics added. Bohemian IA Hallsttat samples taken.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russki
Thanks dude i really love your calcs tomorrow i will try i can't nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
:)
Do I need coordinates?
Quiénes son, qué tiene que ver con España?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
Code:Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.4473% / 0.01447322
61.2 Proto-Celts
21.2 Iberia_BA
10.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
6.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
I think you should edit this, because I updated it again, to be more specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
https://i.imgur.com/YUCr0JT.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
Possibly the first time that Celts dont overlap with Germanics???? and looks like a historically accurate results?
Honestly man, u and Feiichy need a Nobel premiation XD
Austria La Tene is already thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Jingle Bell
Oh yeah, my badQuote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
You're correct. She's roughly half Georgian half IrishQuote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.4817% / 0.00481662
47.2 West_Niger-Congo
17.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
17.4 Iberia_BA
9.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
5.8 Imperial_Romans
2.4 South_Amerindian
Turns out, I'm not a IA proper Celt or a descendant of Germanics :D
Mine now looks like that
Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.3875% / 0.01387536
46.2 SSA
17.0 Proto-Celts
16.8 Iberia_BA
12.6 Imperial_Romans
4.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.0 Native_American
Looks good! My Celtic DNA is all comming from Urnfield (Pre-Proto-Celts) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingle Bell
I now get this:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.5040% / 0.01503964
27.6 Iberia_BA
25.0 Germanic_Ruler
18.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
14.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
9.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
5.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.3592% / 0.01359154
54.4 Proto-Celts
16.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
13.6 Germanic_Ruler
9.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
6.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3751% / 0.01375097
60.4 Proto-Celts
16.0 Berbers_&_Guanches
12.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
4.8 Germanic_Ruler
4.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
2.0 Iberia_BA
Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.4680% / 0.01468029
31.4 Proto-Celts
22.4 Germanic_Ruler
18.4 Iberia_BA
15.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.2 Imperial_Romans
update
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.5935% / 0.01593505
34.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
16.0 Imperial_Romans
14.4 Iberia_BA
14.2 Germanic_Ruler
13.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
4.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
3.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
I get the same, just my 61.2% Proto-Celt is now divided between Proto and Pre-Proto.Code:Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.4473% / 0.01447328
47.8 Proto-Celts
21.2 Iberia_BA
13.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
10.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
6.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Updated:
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 1.4923% / 0.01492349
58.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
14.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
13.6 Iberia_BA
12.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
0.8 Proto-Celts
Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3668% / 0.01366791
29.6 Iberia_BA
19.4 Germanic_Ruler
18.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
13.0 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
4.8 Imperial_Romans
3.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.8 Proto-Celts
Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.4035% / 0.01403538
61.0 Pre-Proto-Celts
21.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
12.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
4.4 Iberia_BA
Target: LusoGF_Simulated
Distance: 4.2235% / 0.04223471
41.2 Germanic_Ruler
37.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
21.4 Imperial_Romans
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02851557 Germanic_Ruler:Gothic
0.03631814 Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.03667677 Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap12c
0.04035122 Germanic_Ruler:Migration_LIB:Suebi:LIB2
0.04225088 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13792
0.04733384 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15955
0.04762684 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13798
0.04968533 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20526
0.04973238 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20517
0.05071605 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15958
0.05210929 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13795
0.05238880 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15960
0.05248442 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13789
0.05371586 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13793
0.05501719 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13799
0.05522127 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA111
0.05538073 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I17311
0.05581640 Germanic_Ruler:DEU_MA:AED_106
0.05597425 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I16182
0.05598373 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13787
0.05629153 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13788
0.05773196 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA112
0.06170866 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20525
0.06305487 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15041
0.06849553 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8752% / 0.01875230
73.8 Germanic_Ruler
15.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
5.8 Proto-Celts
4.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8809% / 0.01880858
64.8 Germanic_Ruler:Gothic
12.2 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701
8.6 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13787
7.0 Germanic_Ruler:Migration_LIB:Suebi:LIB2
6.6 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13795
0.8 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13793
Updated
Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 2.3979% / 0.02397901
41.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
22.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
22.4 Iberia_BA
9.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
4.2 Germanic_Ruler
Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.2050% / 0.02205015
35.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
35.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
16.6 Proto-Celts
12.4 Germanic_Ruler
Jgab602's updated model.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9285% / 0.01928530
75.4 Germanic_Ruler
24.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
I've added Scotland_IA and England_IA
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7685% / 0.01768451
45.2 Germanic_Ruler
34.4 England_IA
12.2 Scotland_IA
6.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
1.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
It seems G25 sometimes inflates some components, NA reaching 18% is absurd.
Spanish and Portuguese definitely have it though. I don't make these models so I'm presuming the other components don't have this NA. Is this the reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore
Idk, Spanish and Portuguese have it as Northern Euros have ANE, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
But the question is, why sometimes G25 inflates this component?