Same, i am surprised not to be something like H, there's nothing wrong with being H but i'm glad i'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazimiera
Wish i was something really more random though.. like haplogroup X or Y xD
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Same, i am surprised not to be something like H, there's nothing wrong with being H but i'm glad i'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazimiera
Wish i was something really more random though.. like haplogroup X or Y xD
U is the best though, not rare but not too common. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by sibylle88
yeah, i'm happy being U :P
it obviously has to be a paternal line male cousin or uncle, but i hope you find out which one :)
U is good. Family of K. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
Im proud of mine but haven't been able to learn more about them
I'm in the process of finding out my haplogroup :D
Yes I like my Y lineage, but I love my mtDNA more because it goes back to Arabia and peaks there, so it confirms my great-great great great ancestress was Arabian through and through.
I do not know my hablogroups but I would I approve of most. R1b seems a bit boring though
Not sure if I should be proud of E1b1b1a2...
yeah R1b and V7a is North European so its fine with me
EDIT: V13 G > C E1b1b1a2, so indeed V13 is E1b1b1a2...
Anybody can shed more light on this haplogroup?
I am reading this:
Does this necessarily mean that I have some connection to Greeks and or Albanians?Quote:
E1b1b1a2. V13
E1b1b1a2 (V13) is highest in the Balkan Peninsula (Albania 32%, Greece 18-45%) and diminishes from here northward. It overlaps with the previously identified E1b1b1a M78 a cluster, and makes up the majority of E chromosome types in Europe. This cluster was found primarily in Europe and to a lesser extent the Near East (e.g. 5% Turkey). It is rarely found outside of Europe.
For example, the most prevalent E subclade in Crete was defined as the E1b1b1a M78 a cluster. It is quite likely that Greece was the source of this subclade on Crete and that this subclade is common overall in the Aegean region. The estimates for the TMRCA of this subclade are 9-11kya outside of Europe (i.e. Near East) and 4-5kya in Europe. The expansion time for the E1b1b1a2 (V13) subclade in Greece is estimated around 4-9kya, somewhat preceding the estimate for the origin of this subclade, which is due to the use of different mutation rate models. The estimate for expansion on Crete is 3kya, which coincides with an influx of Mycenaean culture from the Greek mainland during the end of the Bronze Age. The E1b1b1a2 (V13) most closely follows the route proposed for Y-chromosome haplogroup J-M12 that was part of the late Neolithic introduction of farming and agriculture to Europe and the advances of the ensuing Bronze Age.
Not necessarily, E-V13 can be found in almost all Europe and middle east. And why shouldn't you be proud of it? It's the haplogroup of people like the Wright Brothers and Caravaggio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Musso
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplog...-DNA.shtml#M78
...and Hitler :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrax
Hitler was E1b1, but we don't know if he was E-V13Quote:
Originally Posted by Musso
Ah okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrax
Seems E-V13 is well represented in Kosovo however
This doesn't mean that whoever is E-V13 is associated with Kosovo though. There are for example many more greek, romanian and bulgarian men who are E-V13 than kosovar men in absolute number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Musso
True, in all E-V13 seems to be dominated in the Balkans and general South-Eastern Europe. It seems not the be a "Germanic" or "Celtic" Haplogroup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrax
I'm E1b1b1a. :D I'm just disappointed in the lack of information about it in Europe is all.
Yes I am. :)
Yes, I am very proud of my paternal haplogroup I2b1* (yes, with the star, though I'm not sure what that means), it is a European haplogroup that seems to be consistent with my direct male line being German despite there possibly being Jewish heritage on that side of the family. I thank God I am not a J or something like that. I2b1* is not the most common one in Germany but is more common in Germany than anywhere else. I also share this haplogroup with Hersir, a Norwegian who used to post on the old Skadi Forum. My maternal haplogroup T2b is consistent with my Irish maternal ancestry, I could take it or leave it, I am not overly proud of it but I have no shame in it either.
Although I do not carry my maternal grandfather's YDNA, since between me and him there is a female, my uncle (mother's brother) was recently tested to be R1b1b2a1a, so I know my mother's father must carry this haplogroup as well. This is most common in Western Europe, not as much associated with Germany as it is with France and Spain, but still a European haplogroup nonetheless, and hence consistent with my maternal grandfather's male line being from Germany. Though I do not carry this I identify with it to a lesser extent, I am proud of my grandfather for having this haplogroup since it is associated with European ancestry.
I can only speculate on what maternal haplogroup my maternal granddad was. He did not have sisters, I will not be able to figure out this unless I test a direct female from one of his maternal aunts. My maternal granddad's mom was from Bohemia in the Sudeten German area, H maybe?
Some people discount haplogroups as meaningless information. While it is true that your haplogroup represents only 1 ancestor in millions, your haplogroup can give off a slight clue about where your other ancestors might have lived. Having a European haplogroup certainly does not mean that all your other ancestors were European, but it does indicate European ancestry on other lines, if you can trace your direct paternal or maternal line to Europe then there is a good chance you can trace at least some of your other lines to there as well.
Your haplogroups are an important minority of your DNA preserved and left intact from tens of thousands of years passed down to you. They are legacies. They are part of your identity and represent membership of generations upon generations of consecutive uninterrupted male and female direct lines. A males paternal haplogroup is in a way, like his last name. It is an important part of his identity, an identity passed down from father to son over many generations, for example I'm an I2b1* male, that's part of my identity. Since it is inherited paternally, most people should be able to link their YDNA haplogroup with their surname, for example my I2b1* could be said to be the Wittenberg haplogroup and my uncles R1b1b2a1a the Wessel haplogroup. But unlike surnames, which on direct paternal lines can change in a few generations (typically not, but sometimes), YDNA haplogroup does not.
What's wrong with Y-DNA haplogroup J?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Hesselink
I found out I'm in D clade, so far it has a wide geographical range from Yemen to Europe, but certainly not Arabian or Jewish specific clade. My full matches are a Belgian and a Dutch, and 1GD from an Algerian, Anatolian, French, Utah mormon.
You could be related to original Armenian language bearers who came from Balkans to the historical Armenia. Which side of your family is European?Quote:
Originally Posted by Musso
It was mentioned in a few core science classes, though specifics and details of individual haplogroups were not studied at the couple of schools I went in the USA.
My YDNA is a little unusual and I was surprised but it's still cool. My mtDNA is very common among AJs but my mother isn't an AJ, so that was really surprising.
Sound as a pound. That maternal line goes back in the family tree to Ireland actually.
The Indo-European branches of mtDNA K -- Eupedia
One way to determine which subclades of K were diffused by the Indo-Europeans is to look for subclades that are consistently found in all populations with high levels of haplogroup R1b in Europe, around the Caucasus, in the Near East and in Central Asia.
K1a1a is found all around Central Asia, as well as central and western Europe, and could be linked to R1b. K1c is also common in Central Asia. K1c1 is particularly common in Slavic countries, while K1c2 is more common in Germanic countries. Both could be associated with R1a. The presence of K1c2 has been confirmed in Tajikistan, a country that has 30% of R1a and only 3% of R1b.
K2b was found by Keyser et al. (2009) in Bronze Age samples related to the Andronovo culture from the Krasnoyarskarea in southern Siberia. The male samples tested from the same site belonged R1a. Nowadays K2b is found mostly incentral and north-eastern Europe (R1a countries) and can therefore safely be linked to the diffusion of the R1a branch of the Indo-Europeans.
Data for deep subclades outside Europe is still sparse, but other potential candidates include K1a3 and K2a6. Note that K1a4 was also found among Neolithic farmers in Germany, but since most K1a subclades originated in the Near East it should not be surprising to find overlaps between Neolithic farmers and Bronze Age Indo-European invaders. It is also the most common subclade in Northwest Europe.
Yes, I am happy. When I wake up in the morning, the first thing that come to mind are haplogroups. It makes my day a lot easier.
My halpogroups place me as a prehistoric kelt. So I am happy with them.
Yes but I wasn't expecting it. I thought U4 was Slavic and Balto-Nordic?
R-L21>DF63 confirmed Breton, not unexpected or anything. Who wouldn't be proud of such a thing, unless it revealed you were unexpectedly admixed i.e: wog.
23andme were only able to tell me that I'm H, which doesn't really narrow things down very much. jameslick.com suggested I might be H17 of some type; 23andme doesn't seem to assign people to this group. It seems quite rare so I can't find much out about it. Still, not unhappy. I've ordered tests for my parents and my maternal uncle so I'm looking forward to finding out the y-dna and mtdna on each side.
I know your surname & it's very English sounding. My bet would be a Saxon I1 y-dna typeQuote:
Originally Posted by Catkin
Ok, your bet's recorded :p. My dad's side is more Germanic I expect, though my guess for my y-dna on my mum's side is also I1. They're Irish, but the name's not; I think the direct male line on that side goes back to northern England.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I liked it at first cause it's rare. I didn't want to be a generic like H. But I haven't met another X2f. None of my 800 "relatives" on 23andme are X2f either. I also can't find a lot of info or any info on X2f
I am even more so happy with my y-dna, now that they are offering SNPs that even further define and refine the haplogroup and its subclade.
I don't know what my Y-DNA Hg is but I hope I don't have one of those accursed Afro-Asiatic Y-DNA. They way I see it is I have 50% chance of getting I2a as my Y-DNA being of Slovene and Serbocroat ancestry.
I don't know them.I'll probably never do a test either.Im a looker and my muscles grow good,that's all that I care about myself physically.
What does it change if you are happy or not with your haplogroups ?
I was intrigued when I found out that my Y-DNA haplogroup was R-S21/U106, "Proto-Germanic". The haplogroup was the the dominant group among West Germanic tribes, and it spread to England between the 3rd and 10th centuries with the Anglo-Saxons. It penetrated into Scandinavia around 1700 BCE, helping to form the Nordic Bronze Age.