Arpad dynasty DNA (kings of Hungary & Croatia)

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

He is heartbroken, Bela III is his favorite King :(

But really, this only confirms what I suspected, and what Blogen wrote many times, that R1a was primarly haplogroup of conquering Magyars, not N1c.

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Nonsense, most of the conquering Magyar warrior graves were N1c1, with some R1s

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

most

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Originally Posted by Rethel

2.

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More than half were N1c1. The R1a1 men have always been and will always be a race of slaves. Just deal with it.

Sargat culture mtDNA:

C: 26%
G: 10%
A: 10%
T: 43%
Z: 7%
Y: 4%
forrás: Casey C. Bennett, Frederika A. Kaestle: Investigation of Ancient DNA from Western Siberia and the Sargat Culture

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

More than half were N1c1.

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How do you count it? Only 2 were N1c, and we have several (more than four).

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

I know it is a guess, but do you think they will ever bother releasing the information about the downstream?
How about your thoughts on the origins of the names on the previous pages?

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I hope they will :) I have read the thread about the names and their origins, and I find it very interesting, but this topic is unknown to me, so I just read it without comment .

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I assume you are talking about Stears; he's fine. He just speaks from a new position as his DNA tests arrive and he uses more autosomal calculators and more Magyar DNA is researched in general. As the science progresses so will his views on his heritage. He will have you to help him with this as well.

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Sure :)
For example he score some eskimo/inuit like DNA on tests, which I sure is from oldest layer of Ugric peoples. and other things too, as you know.

Good night!

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Originally Posted by Rethel

Lets add, what the Adalbert III (Bela III) had to say in this matter,
under who's protection the history of the family was written:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cgyek

In the year of Our Lord's incarnation 819, Ügek, the noblest chieftain
of Scythia descending from the great house of Magog, took to wife in
Dentumoger the daughter of Prince Eunedubelian, called Emese, from whom he begot a son,
who was named Álmos. But he is called Álmos from a divine event, because when she was
pregnant a divine vision appeared to his mother in a dream in the form of a falcon that seemed
to come to her and impregnate her and made known to her that from her womb a torrent would
come forth and from her loins glorious kings be generated, but that they would not multiply in
their own land. Because a dream is called álom in the Hungarian language and his birth was
predicted in a dream, so he was called Álmos. Or he was called Álmos, that is holy, because
holy kings and dukes were born of his line.

He himself claimed to be an Indoeuropean, Scythian, descendat of Japheth.
So his result to be R1, is perfectly fine and agreeable with his own claimed history.

In addition it is worthy to add, that according to the same medieval
legends, Hungarians as a folk were descendants of Ham and Nemrod.
So, if they knew the difference, then we shouldn;t be surrprized also.

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Turkic language family is not Indo-European, just saying.

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Originally Posted by blogen

Possible Magyar ancestry in this context. These were Ugric or Iranic markers at this time. Turkic markers today only, after the great scale Turkification of the steppe!

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https://i.imgur.com/fL2QdI2.gif

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Originally Posted by blogen

From the free status! There were dozens of various tribal origin groups on this task, maybe a social origin caste was one of them. The székely name is similar origin than the tolmács word (from the Pecheneg talmács/tulmátzoi tribal name) in this case.

But the social origin caste in the service of the royal administration is the probable option in this case.

The Turkic tribal name is only baseless speculation based on the similarity between the two names. Grammatically works (Róna-Tas), but the Hungarian administrative division name: szék was much more better option.

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Its the same AS/AZ Saka tribe.

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Originally Posted by Marmara

R2b brought to Americas by Whites. Turkic R2-Z93...

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Sooooo, did I get you right? Whites and Turks came from India?
https://i.imgur.com/2OH441R.jpg