2019 Apricity PCA

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Originally Posted by Markos

Didn't create this map, sorry.

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Who created it?

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Originally Posted by Pine

Who created it?

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Erikl86 on Anthrogenica

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Originally Posted by Markos

Erikl86 on Anthrogenica

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That place seems closed down now. Would be great to get the data. I suspect they're the most Judean diaspora.

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Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

https://i.ibb.co/Y26ZGJK/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png

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Who is Aye? She or he is similar to me on this pca..

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Originally Posted by HungryLion

Who is Aye? She or he is similar to me on this pca..

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Ayetooey.

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Originally Posted by Lemgrant

Ayetooey.

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Oh, cool..

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Originally Posted by Markos

Yeah but we have extended family from Syros so there's a high possibility that's mixed in me as well.

I think it depends on where in Crete they're from.

This might be a good comparison:

http://i65.tinypic.com/wwnkog.png

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Seems to be a relevant diversity among Cretans, kinda runs with forensic anthropology. Do you know if it is a West Crete-East Crete cline?

There also seems to be a cline from Dodecanese to Samos/Chios with Ikaria in-between, still Ikariots seem to cluster notably more Western than Cretans. Lavrentis should have seen this as he called these areas Turkoid.

Interesting to have something on Romaniotes.

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Originally Posted by Faklon

Seems to be a relevant diversity among Cretans, kinda runs with forensic anthropology. Do you know if it is a West Crete-East Crete cline?

There also seems to be a cline from Dodecanese to Samos/Chios with Ikaria in-between, still Ikariots seem to cluster notably more Western than Cretans. Lavrentis should have seen this as he called these areas Turkoid.

Interesting to have something on Romaniotes.

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I'm not 100% sure. However, It's important to note this is an extremely small sample size, so it shouldn't be taken as gospel or anything. I know for a fact the Ikaria samples are based on 2 or 3 samples that have ever been found total. Without any proof of confirmed Ikarian ancestry from all 4 grandparents. I have seen a lot of diversity between all Greek islands on this plot, but of course Sikeliot cherry picked what he wanted to. In my opinion, the majority of islands cluster together in a broad area, and the differences are more from an individual basis, rather than and island basis. However, it's important to know also that the "Central Greek" PCA plot is almost always clustered with Greek islanders, and sometimes the most southern-shifting Maniots, rather than anything near Central Greece on the mainland. From what I understand, most Peleponnesians plot in between Abruzzo and Thessaly, and anything north of there plots Thessaly and above. So they should really change the naming of that. However, we're talking really small differences here.

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Originally Posted by Markos

I'm not 100% sure. However, It's important to note this is an extremely small sample size, so it shouldn't be taken as gospel or anything. I know for a fact the Ikaria samples are based on 2 or 3 samples that have ever been found total. Without any proof of confirmed Ikarian ancestry from all 4 grandparents. I have seen a lot of diversity between all Greek islands on this plot, but of course Sikeliot cherry picked what he wanted to. In my opinion, the majority of islands cluster together in a broad area, and the differences are more from an individual basis, rather than and island basis. However, it's important to know also that the "Central Greek" PCA plot is almost always clustered with Greek islanders, and sometimes the most southern-shifting Maniots, rather than anything near Central Greece on the mainland. From what I understand, most Peleponnesians plot in between Abruzzo and Thessaly, and anything north of there plots Thessaly and above. So they should really change the naming of that. However, we're talking really small differences here.

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Yes, that old sample is possibly from Athens but could also be from Euboea. Inland Central Greece(Aetolia, Evrytania, etc) plots around Thessaly and North Peloponnese from the samples Sikel shared.

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Originally Posted by HungryLion

Who is Aye? She or he is similar to me on this pca..

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And he is half Serbian half British.