German GEDmatch results

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

What about the Ruhrpolen (who came from all of eastern provinces)? There were over 450,000 of them in 1910 (and probably already some were assimilated by that time, while others continued coming later). Add also Lithuanians & Masurians from East Prussia, Wends from eastern Pommern.

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We talk about the German people today and whether it is connected by common ancestry or not. There are no Ruhrpolen today from that time. If they have mixed with local Germans their German descendants have part in the same common German ties. And if a Pole comes today to the Ruhr area, it's no German and thus not of this topic.

You are making these overview-like and general discussions more complicated than they are. Precaustionary: Pls do not ask what is if there still is one individual left that has Ruhrpolen ancestry only.

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Originally Posted by Creoda

Not really, because the 'Australian nation' includes people of many different ethnicities/origins

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I thought that the core are the "Anglo-Celts" ??? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians

At some point nearly entire population was either Anglo-Celts or Aborigines. Only later other groups came?

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Originally Posted by rothaer

There are no Ruhrpolen today from that time.

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But there are still Germans who are descended 100% from Ruhrpolen (all 4 grandparents were Ruhrpolen).

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Originally Posted by rothaer

Pls do not ask what is if there still is one individual left that has Ruhrpolen ancestry only.

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I'm sure there must be many (thousands).

Creoda seems to identify more with England than Ireland. It may seem trival here now but he would have been kicked out of a pub in Ireland some decades ago! :irishdancer:

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

While Dmowski had no love for Russia (...), he understood that Germany is a greater, existential, threat to Poland.
Russia is also a threat, but not an existential one.
Dmowski's choice between Russia vs. Germany was a choice between lesser evil vs. greater evil.

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You'll just get rid of the loot. So it's no existential threat. No German is interested in Poland proper.

But your big brother could be. After he will have given back Königsberg to us, we will never forget this reconsiling favor and be enduringly very thankful and deeply in his debt. We will agree to all and we will have full understanding for his need for Poland proper and Gdynia as a new Baltic Sea port. And we will underline the attractiveness and beauty especially of Wyrzysk and Poznan. Lukashenka he will incorporate on his way. If Lukashenka not even will ask for it himself.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

I thought that the core are the "Anglo-Celts" ??? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians

At some point nearly entire population was either Anglo-Celts or Aborigines. Only later other groups came?

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They are, like I said. Increasingly less demographically unfortunately, but still culturally.

In the late 18th century and Early 19th century the population was pretty much only Anglo-Celtic and Aboriginals, as it was mostly just an unprosperous backwater penal colony, but from about the Mid 19th century onwards some continental Europeans started to arrive and mix in with the Anglo-Celtic population (that South Australian German I showed could trace all their ancestry back to mid 19th century South Australia), and some Chinese, largely because of the Gold Rush in my home state of Victoria in the 1850s. It wasn't until after World War II that large amounts of continental Europeans and non-NW Euro's began to be admitted, because the government took the view that Australia needed a larger population to resist the Yellow Peril/Communists in the future.

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Originally Posted by Creoda

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Btw. some days ago I read about the first European permanent residents in Australia:

"Loos and a cabin boy, Jan Pelgrom de Bye, who were considered only minor offenders, were marooned on mainland Australia, and were never heard of again. This made them the first Europeans to have permanently lived on the Australian continent.[22] This location is now thought to be Wittecarra Creek near Kalbarri, Western Australia, though another suggestion is nearby Port Gregory.[10]":

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(1628_ship)

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Originally Posted by rothaer

But your big brother could be.

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I don't think so - current eastern border of Poland is similar as 1795 border of Russian 3rd partition as well as Ribbentrop-Molotov line of 1939.

But the point of existential threat was more about ethnic & biological existence, not political.

Dmowski thought that Russians would never be able to assimilate or to exterminate Poles, even if they managed to conquer and rule Poland.

Dmowski also knew that ethnic Polish lands once used to be up to the Oder-Neisse line and Germans had managed to Germanize a lot of land.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

I don't think so - current eastern border of Poland is similar as 1795 border of Russian 3rd partition as well as Ribbentrop-Molotov line of 1939.

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Well, both my maternal grandparents lived in Lodz when it was Russia. Хорошо. Also your big brother could come to remember that. :P

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Originally Posted by rothaer

You'll just get rid of the loot.

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How? Through peaceful means? :confused:

Because if you try and lose yet another world war, I'm sure Kaufman's advice will finally be considered seriously:

http://ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.shtml

[and by the way, Germanic tribes came out of these deep forests in the video, everything else is just their loot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVLGwTggO8U

Roman Empire fell & German Empire also fell. You can now either survive as 2nd-class power, or try stupid things.

Today Germany is in the same situation, in which Carthage was between 2nd & 3rd Punic Wars. Still strong, but so vulnerable at the same time.

Also interesting is that Jews outlived both of these empires, even though both empires tried to destroy them! :eek:

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Originally Posted by rothaer

After he will have given back Königsberg to us

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They will never give it back to you. Why would they? The only territory that Russians ever voluntarily gave to someone was Crimea - to their brotherly Ukrainian nation. But they changed their mind few decades later. :rolleyes:

If you want Kaliningrad back you should invade it, and also invade Crimea and help Ukraine. After you capture Crimea from the Russians, Ukrainians will let you keep it, and you will rename it Gotengau and Germanize.