What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Luso

I'm pretty sure you can put MyHeritage into this tool to find your y-dna:

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

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Thanks! :thumb001: It's R1a apparently, weird...

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Originally Posted by Teutone

Whats your religion dude

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Not very religious, I'd consider myself culturally catholic and practiced a bit when I was younger but I respect Catholicism more than any other religion. I was also baptized when I was a kid.

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Thanks! :thumb001: It's R1a apparently, weird...

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hmm, can you copy what it shows? Paste the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by Luso

hmm, can you copy what it shows? Paste the whole thing.

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Here...
https://i.imgur.com/qifpcKS.png

Did I do it Right?

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Thanks! :thumb001: It's R1a apparently, weird...

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could you paste all the result?

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Here...
https://i.imgur.com/qifpcKS.png

Did I do it Right?

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LOL. It´s R1a-Z645 for sure, seems to be that Z2125 is a false positive on MyHeritage raw data. From where is your paternal line?

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

LOL. It´s R1a-Z645 for sure, seems to be that Z2125 is a false positive on MyHeritage raw data. From where is your paternal line?

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My father is half south italian half iberian roughly.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

LOL. It´s R1a-Z645 for sure, seems to be that Z2125 is a false positive on MyHeritage raw data. From where is your paternal line?

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Another R1a???

Those were exactly my results.

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

My father is half south italian half iberian roughly.

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that explains it. Pretty sure the clade you got is very particular to Italy.

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

My father is half south italian half iberian roughly.

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But i mean, is your last name portuguese or italian? The father of your father of your father, where is he from?

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Another R1a???

Those were exactly my results.

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Yep, your cousin!

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Another R1a???

Those were exactly my results.

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Same as mine too.. Can it be this common??

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

But i mean, is your last name portuguese or italian? The father of your father of your father, where is he from?

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Then it's portuguese... even weirder.

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Noob question, but how do I find out my haplogroup? I have raw data from MyHeritage, is there a tool I can use to know my haplogoup?

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You can also try : https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Here...
https://i.imgur.com/qifpcKS.png

Did I do it Right?

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Seems to be downstream Z93 clade, which is Indo-Iranian
I have no idea how it could end up in Iberia.

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con...a-Z93-Asia.png

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Same as mine too.. Can it be this common??

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For an Spanish it´s quite strange to be R1a but not impossible, for you, there are R1a in Germany and in Azerbaidjan, different subclades but R1a, Z2125 is most likely from Azerbaidjan, but as Rocinante says, MyHeritage raw data uses to give a false positive and attributes z2125 to many R1a. So R1a is sure, M-417 or Z93 most likely too, but beyond we cannot know.

If your father is from Azerbaidjan, yo could be Z2125 perfectly.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

You can also try : https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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Morley to me and to my father gave us M-417.

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Then it's portuguese... even weirder.

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You might be R1a-Z283 due germanic invasions (visigoths and suebis) or R1a-Z93 due scythians.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

For an Spanish it´s quite strange to be R1a but not impossible, for you, there are R1a in Germany and in Azerbaidjan, different subclades but R1a, Z2125 is most likely from Azerbaidjan, but as Rocinante says, MyHeritage raw data uses to give a false positive and attributes z2125 to many R1a. So R1a is sure, M-417 or Z93 most likely too, but beyond we cannot know.

If your father is from Azerbaidjan, yo could be Z2125 perfectly.

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Yes, I'm still interested in why so many Iberians here get positives for it. I also tested with Myheritage btw..

A lot of new samples have been added for it btw if anyone's interested:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2125/

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Originally Posted by gixajo

For an Spanish it´s quite strange to be R1a but not impossible, for you, there are R1a in Germany and in Azerbaidjan, different subclades but R1a, Z2125 is most likely from Azerbaidjan, but as Rocinante says, MyHeritage raw data uses to give a false positive and attributes z2125 to many R1a. So R1a is sure, M-417 or Z93 most likely too, but beyond we cannot know.

If your father is from Azerbaidjan, yo could be Z2125 perfectly.

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Everyone is positive for Z2125 and S41 with MyHeritage, they are confirmed false positives, so is not trustable.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Everyone is positive for Z2125 and S41 with MyHeritage, they are confirmed false positives, so is not trustable.

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Damn now I'm scared too..

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Then it's portuguese... even weirder.

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It´s weird but no so strange, my paternal side is from Andalusia and they are too.

Maybe tomorrow 23andme will give me their results, and maybe they tell me a more close subclade.

I bet for a common Z-93 and no more beyond this, but maybe with any internet predictor using the new raw data, I obtain more.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

It´s weird but no so strange, my paternal side is from Andalusia and they are too.

Maybe tomorrow 23andme will give me their results, and maybe they tell me a more close subclade.

I bet for a common Z-93 and no more beyond this, but maybe with any internet predictor using the new raw data, I obtain more.

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Looking forward to your result!

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Morley to me and to my father gave us M-417.

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same for me & my father

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Everyone is positive for Z2125 and S41 with MyHeritage, they are confirmed false positives, so is not trustable.

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I know it, but if his father is from Azerbaidjan, and he is R1a, most likely he would be z2125 in that particular case.

In my case or Blemoir´s case, it´s not so likely.

I really want to do the FTDNA Y-BIG to get a very precise and 100% objective clade but it is so expensive. However, I am pretty much convinced I am R-Z225 as the tool pinpointed it very well.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

I know it, but if his father is from Azerbaidjan, and he is R1a, most likely he would be z2125 in that particular case.

In my case or Blemoir´s case, it´s not so likely.

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Blemoir case would be very like yours.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Damn now I'm scared too..

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Your case is almost 100% for sure you are Z93, is the most common clade in Azerbaijan, would be actually pretty weird if you get Z283 (IMHO). But put in judgement that Z2125, also the people getting positive in R1b-S41.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Everyone is positive for Z2125 and S41 with MyHeritage, they are confirmed false positives, so is not trustable.

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So my haplogroup might not be R1a then?

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

So my haplogroup might not be R1a then?

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You are 10000% for sure R1a-Z645, no return. What you are not for sure is Z93 or Z2125.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

You can also try : https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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I can't use this, i've tried before...
https://i.imgur.com/esq1Vdg.png

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Blemoir case would be very like yours.



Your case is almost 100% for sure you are Z93, is the most common clade in Azerbaijan, would be actually pretty weird if you get Z283 (IMHO). But put in judgement that Z2125, also the people getting positive in R1b-S41.

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I don't understand the last part with R1b. What do you mean?

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Originally Posted by gixajo

It´s weird but no so strange, my paternal side is from Andalusia and they are too.

Maybe tomorrow 23andme will give me their results, and maybe they tell me a more close subclade.

I bet for a common Z-93 and no more beyond this, but maybe with any internet predictor using the new raw data, I obtain more.

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This coming from Andalusia would make more sense?

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

You are 10000% for sure R1a-Z645, no return. What you are not for sure is Z93 or Z2125.

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But Z-645 is not more accurate than Z-93?

Todo esto de los haplotipos lo conozco muy superficialmente. Pensaba que el Z-645 era una rama del Z-93 y no al revés.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

You are 10000% for sure R1a-Z645, no return. What you are not for sure is Z93 or Z2125.

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Ok, I get it :thumb001:

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Originally Posted by Kyp

I don't understand the last part with R1b. What do you mean?

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Everyone that has a raw data from MyHeritage, is positive for R1b-S47 (sorry, not S41), and R1a-Z2125, is a false positive SNP, is something a bit complicated to explain.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

But Z-645 is not more accurate than Z-93?

Todo esto de los haplotipos lo conozco muy superficialmente. Pensaba que el Z-645 era una rama del Z-93 y no al revés.

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Es al reves:

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/R1a-tree.png

Igual con el Z645 no haces mucho.

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Originally Posted by Ethel

Seems to be downstream Z93 clade, which is Indo-Iranian
I have no idea how it could end up in Iberia.

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con...a-Z93-Asia.png

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Indo-iranian... wow:noidea:

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

Indo-iranian... wow:noidea:

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It may be a false positive, but if you're truly Z93, I guess it could only have been brought by Indoeuropean groups, maybe visigoths (?)

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Originally Posted by Ethel

It may be a false positive, but if you're truly Z93, I guess it could only have been brought by Indoeuropean groups, maybe visigoths (?)

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Yeah, Visigoths could make sense...

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Originally Posted by Blemoir

This coming from Andalusia would make more sense?

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Anything genetic makes as much sense in Portugal as in Spain, although some are more likely to happen in Portugal, and others are not.

Cantabria is the Spanish region where R1a is more frequent, and if it is supposed that the reconquest was carried out from north to south, the Andalusian area where my father's line is is just in a straight line.

The Visigothic ancestry could be another explanation, or any Polish soldier from the napoleon army, or who knows, a Russian sailor in your case if your paternal side where from a coastal zone.

In my case also I thought in the creation of settlements with people from central europe at the end of the 18th century near the city where my father was born.

Or maybe a non-European origin, who knows.

R1a-Z93 in Europe only make sense with Scynthians, but seems to be that Z2124 is the european clade inside Z94 (this clade is the only non-euro clade in Z93). This is complex!

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Anything genetic makes as much sense in Portugal as in Spain, although some are more likely to happen in Portugal, and others are not.

Cantabria is the Spanish region where R1a is more frequent, and if it is supposed that the reconquest was carried out from north to south, the Andalusian area where my father's line is is just in a straight line.

The Visigothic ancestry could be another explanation, or any Polish soldier from the napoleon army, or who knows, a Russian sailor in your case if your paternal side where from a coastal zone.

In my case also I thought in the creation of settlements with people from central europe at the end of the 18th century near the city where my father was born.

Or maybe a non-European origin, who knows.

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It's a pity I have no idea where my iberian ancestors are from. The only european ancestor I know for a fact is my italian grandmother. Iberians are from the colonial era.