Pashtuns: A genetically South Asian ethnicity wrapped in self hate(?)

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Originally Posted by jatt

That's because u Probably nevEd been to Nepal. I lived in kathmandoo For couple Of years and believe me mixing of caucasoid and mongoloid for years do produce theSe Pashtoon types. They ain't even fairer in complexion to Nepalis contrary to what Many here would been believing. Pashtoons are south Asians n like their buddy Pakistani suffer from inferiority complex. They think by being south Asians people will think they are like Tamils. Now we jatts are what 20 percent North euro by genotype yet we take it as an insult if someone would say we are not from South asia. Lack of self respect I would say. Living in South Asia but we Ain't south Asians.

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From what i have seen from a genetic study about the Pashtuns is that they cluster very closely with Tajiks and North-west indians than to west Asians and Europeans. Honestly, the Kashmiris and the people of North-west Pakistan look no different from many Afghans.

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Originally Posted by jatt

So are Indians. Have you ever met an Indian even online who show favorBle view of these people. It's always Pakistani and bAngladeshi who have abnormal love for these good for nothing people. Persians were once ZorastrNians but Islamic conquest changed them to today's people. Islam met resistance in India. We have indegenous religions like Hinduism Sikhism and budhism. Since these countries are overwhelmic Islamic there are no conflicts. If Muslims were minority I their region things would been different

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Well, my people arent good for nothing whatsoever, and no, i don't identify or associate myself to any northern MEs whatsoever. The only people i do strongly associate myself with are to NAs, Syrians, Iraqis, Jordanians, and with other Arabians. Many Turks and Persians from what i have seen have a sense of OWD thinking that bashing other darker races would make white people accept them. Like i said, im proud of who i am, and im not ashamed of my culture or heritage, and if Indians hate us that much then why the fuck are they living here in the first place?

As for the thread, yes, Pashtuns are genetically South Asians, and they dont cluster with Middle Easterners OR Europeans.

Pashtuns look like their neighbours close to them, it does not take genius to figure this out.

It would be good to see how all groups in the region compare to each other. Even in the genographic project Afghans are different from MENA's. They have a Southwest Asian component, not the Arabian one, but a different on that peaks in them and found in good amounts near neighbouring people like the Burushos, and it's close to West Asian yes but it also is different. Real West Asian is closest to North Euro and peaks in Georgians and other Kavkaz people.

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Originally Posted by Nabatea1

Pashtuns look like their neighbours close to them, it does not take genius to figure this out.

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Spot on.

Pashtuns are genetically distinct from Northern Middle Easterners aka Turks, Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians, Kurds etc, and are distinct in general from all West Asians/Middle Easterners/Europeans. This shouldn't even be a question.
First and foremost they cluster with other South Asians (Kashmiris, Punjabi Jatts, Sindhi's, High Caste Hindu Indians), and Tajiks, and they look like it as well.

Jatt is right they indeed resemble Kashmiris alot phenotypically.

South Asia is diverse. They are part of this beautiful mosaic. Their Central Asian-like culture makes it even more nice to see how extremely diverse the people of South Asia are, and how it ranges from Tamil culture, to Northeast Indian culture, to Sindhi culture, to Pashtun culture, to Gujarati culture, to Kashmiri culture, etc. etc.

Let me have also my experiences expressed.

The Pashtuns are on the crossroad of South, Central and West Asia. Pashtuns don't look like South Asians, in the sense of how most people imagine South Asians to look like(Punjabi/Sindi/Karachi Pakistani and Indian).

Pashtuns have their own unique look. They often look like West Asians but with some Punjabi like features/admixture in it. The only South Asians who can look similar to Pashtuns are usually Kashmiris, Kalash and Burusho but that also not because Pashtuns look like them but because allot of Kashmiris look like Pashtuns.
Balochistan is techniqally in Southwest Asia so I don't mention them. Most of the time you can tell apart Pashtuns from Punjabis and the kind easilly.

They look like West with some South Asian vibe on them.


I have come across quite some Pashtuns One of them looked like some sort of Amerindian admixed Iberian. Two looked like a Persian with some Punjabi and a bit of Turkic admixture. Another one like a Kurd with some Punjabi admixture(basically Balochi like) and the last one looked totally Kurdish.

I have also seen an Afghan who looked like a cross between Persian and Indian, turned out he was a real afghanized Punjabi. Didn't knew that something like that exists, before.

The average Pashtun from my experience look like this.

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Originally Posted by Truthbetold

Spot on.

Pashtuns are genetically distinct from Northern Middle Easterners aka Turks, Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians, Kurds etc, and are distinct in general from all West Asians/Middle Easterners/Europeans. This shouldn't even be a question.
First and foremost they cluster with other South Asians (Kashmiris, Punjabi Jatts, Sindhi's, High Caste Hindu Indians), and Tajiks, and they look like it as well.

Jatt is right they indeed resemble Kashmiris alot phenotypically.

South Asia is diverse. They are part of this beautiful mosaic. Their Central Asian-like culture makes it even more nice to see how extremely diverse the people of South Asia are, and how it ranges from Tamil culture, to Northeast Indian culture, to Sindhi culture, to Pashtun culture, to Gujarati culture, to Kashmiri culture, etc. etc.

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pashtuns are in no sense part of south asia so stop trolling again.Afghan pashtuns like durrani and Ghilzai look much more west asian shifted than pashtuns of pakistan who absorbed many dardic genetic influences.People should just stop to look at some pashtuns from peshawar and then to think to think that pashtuns in afghanistan have the same look.

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Originally Posted by Demhat

Let me have also my experiences expressed.

The Pashtuns are on the crossroad of South, Central and West Asia. Pashtuns don't look like South Asians, in the sense of how most people imagine South Asians to look like(Punjabi/Sindi/Karachi Pakistani and Indian).

Pashtuns have their own unique look. They often look like West Asians but with some Punjabi like features/admixture. The only South Asians who can look similar to Pashtuns are usually Kashmiris, Kalash and Burusho but that also not because Pashtuns look like them but because allot of Kashmiris look like Pashtuns.
Balochistan is techniqally in Southwest Asia so I don't mention them. Most of the time you can tell apart Pashtuns from Punjabis and the kind easilly.

They look like West with some South Asian vibe on them.


I have come across quite some Pashtuns One of them looked like some sort of Amerindian admixed Iberian. Two looked like a Persian with Punjabi and a bit of Turkic admixture. Another one like a Kurd with some Punjabi admixture(basically Balochi like) and the last one looked totally Kurdish.

I have also seen an Afghan who looked like a cross between Persian and Indian, turned out he was a real afghanized Punjabi. Didn't knew that something like that exists, before.

The average Pashtun from my experience look like this.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...dd3c727203ae36https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...54d51de508521ehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...99972339_o.jpghttps://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...25&oe=553B9F21https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...1a&oe=5501C3C5https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...594ac99fb09fd0https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...f3c3bc374e76adhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...5b0f6b9f0aa0d9

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pashtuns have their own unique look which gives a pseudo-west asian vibe.I have never encountered anyone outside of this forum and some crazy indians who thinks that this look is close to anyone in south asia.Pashtuns have a sharper and longer face than south asians and are very easy distingush from south asians.Genetically they still cluster closest to pamiri and their y-dna is more than 80% indoeuropean,west asian or central asian.But some pashtuns mixed with indian women or have a dardic origin so some pashtuns can look indic shifted but from my personal experience they are a minority among afghan pashtuns

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Originally Posted by jatt

That's because u Probably nevEd been to Nepal. I lived in kathmandoo For couple Of years and believe me mixing of caucasoid and mongoloid for years do produce theSe Pashtoon types. They ain't even fairer in complexion to Nepalis contrary to what Many here would been believing. Pashtoons are south Asians n like their buddy Pakistani suffer from inferiority complex. They think by being south Asians people will think they are like Tamils. Now we jatts are what 20 percent North euro by genotype yet we take it as an insult if someone would say we are not from South asia. Lack of self respect I would say. Living in South Asia but we Ain't south Asians.

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wow nepal??? why not indonesia? This is one of the most stupid things about pashtuns i have ever heard.Some pashhtuns can look similar to kashmiri and other whiter northwestern indians but not to people of nepal who look for me like a mix of hazara and northern indians.