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Not all european-derived colonial ancestry in Brazil is 100% Iberian tho. One could have several things mixed, the surname doesn't always correlate or descend directly from Portugal. They can be given/adopted surnames, there are also bastard/love-children, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Yes I Know, But I did a DNA test. I'm mostly Iberian, SSA and amerindian are residual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZz...ature=youtu.be
But your first surname it´s your maternal surname or your paternal surname? I think that in Portugal the order of the last names is not so fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Anyway, maybe if you tell your paternal surname to a Portuguese member who knows about Portuguese surnames or genealogy, he can tell you from which Portugal zone it could be.
But I am not sure if Portugal has particular surnames from one area or another as frequently as in Spain, in that aspect, you do not have as much variety AFAIK.
My Paternal surnames are Cardone Gomes; Maternal maiden surnames are Barros da Fonseca. The second surnames are the paternal ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Maybe Luso could help with the surnames. :D
Cardone is Italian, so you paternal line , which is what is related with your Y-dna, and your haplotype should come from Italy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
As long as there were no relatively recent infidelities along the way that break the link with Italy, of course.
Yes, it's from my grandmother which was neapolitan.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
What? Your Grandmother? So cannot be Italian, should be from your grandfather...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
That´s why I said that in the case of Portugueses and people from territories under their rule i had many doubts about relating the first surname with the paternal haplotype.
Edit:sorry, maybe Cardone is the surname of your grandmother´s husband.
Oh ok my bad... My grandfathers surnames are Gomes and Fonseca. Both portuguese. Gomes is from my paternal grandfather.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
No, pero su abuela puede llevar el apellido de su marido, lo hacen en casi toda Europa, me acabo de dar cuenta de eso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
Ya vi que menciono que su linea paterna es Gomes, es portugués y tiene sentido. El R1a en Campania, de donde es su lado italiano, es casi inexistente.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
I edited my post, maybe your grandmother surname was the surname of her husband, it´s something usual in many parts of Europe taht women get her husband´s surname after married them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Gomes is Portuguese. Cardone I'm not sure... sounds from NapoliQuote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Cualquier cosa es posible en todo esto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
Mis resultados aún no están listos, acabo de mirar, me iré a dormir ya, que vaya bien por aquí.
Yes cardone is from Napoli. It's from my grandmother though, the paternal one is Gomes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luso
Yeah then good chance your paternal is from Portugal. However, could have changed surnames to assimilate so never could be sure... unless you're 100% sure they stuck with a Portuguese surname since arrival to Brasil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
No It wasn't, Cardone was hers.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
I think it must be from Portugal, but 100% sure I'm not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Luso
Have you taken any genetic tests? Like ancestrydna or 23andMe, sometimes they can pinpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Only MyHeritage, from the results it's very likely is portuguese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luso
https://i.imgur.com/l1RPfWC.png
Yeah, I'd bet on it as Portuguese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Yes! :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luso
But then again how the haplogroup is R1a and not R1b :033102st:
MyHeritage ethnicity estimate is just the worst in the market. Besides, their raw data is quite good and I know you broke down your DNA with several other calculators, but I'd add the fact that these calculators will show which populations are the closest to you and what combination can (or actually do) make up your background, but they rarely give exact percentages of your ancestry by modern nationalities/ethnicities etc (esp. considering that you're mixed) as 23andme does, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
With this in mind, it's important to note that many ethnicities that actually make up your DNA can be so diluted that they become unrecognizable. There was a Brazilian member here with not so distant Dutch ancestors confirmed by papertrail, but that this was undetectable in the calculators/oracles :dunno:
Mine is R1b.
Yes I Know MyHeritage is not perceived as good. Unfortunately 23andme and My Ancestry are not available in Brazil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethel
Do you know this company https://meudna.com/ ? Do you think is worth it?
Never heard of anyone who did it with them, but I know they don't provide raw data. If I were to make a DNA test today, I'd choose Genera, I think it's the best and cheapest one in Brazil today, or even import a DNA test from Family Tree DNA. I read somewhere that Genera has a parnership with FTDNA, don't know if their test is the same, but FTDNA is surely more expensive, especially nowadays (dollar).Quote:
Originally Posted by Blemoir
Btw, I also tested with MyHeritage. Even though my colonial side is overwhelmingly Portuguese, they gave me 0% Iberian in their report, but gave me lots of Irish/Scottish, North African, Sardinian and Middle Eastern, etc. :noidea:
I will take a look at Genera. But in my case I think MyHeritage was alright, they detected my south italian part perfectly for example, as well as iberian. Nothing seems missing and nothing stick out as absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethel
Why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutone
Q-M3
You are R1b, for sure xDQuote:
Originally Posted by hmaohma78
I got the results today from 23 and me lol thats what I got:noidea:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
How much Native American are you? Q is native.Quote:
Originally Posted by hmaohma78
39.8%Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That's a lot. You may wanna upload to Gedmatch and some other free services 'cause I bet you're 5-10% unassigned (all Latinx get that).Quote:
Originally Posted by hmaohma78
Yeah got like 10% unassignedQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I already uploaded to gedmatch
Wow! Well that is pretty interesting, being Mexico predominantly R1b by Y-DNA. Use this tool and paste the results, i will tell you exactly what means your haplo:Quote:
Originally Posted by hmaohma78
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/
Mind sharing your Dodecad World9 components?Quote:
Originally Posted by hmaohma78
I just barely uploaded today haven't got my results yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
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Originally Posted by Rocinante
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