Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

Turkish Cypriot from the Southern(Greek adm.) Cyprus, Esentepe/Αγιος Νικόλαος and Kalkanlı/Κάτω Αρόδες.

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Admix Results (sorted): # Population Percent 1 Caucasus 42.3 2 Southwest_Asian 18.66 3 Atlantic_Med 17.64 4 Gedrosia 10.18 5 North_European 3.78 6 Northwest_African 3.53 7 East_African 2.6 8 East_Asian 0.92 9 Southeast_Asian 0.2 10 South_Asian 0.19 Single Population Sharing: # Population (source) Distance 1 Lebanese (Behar) 7.46 2 Cypriots (Behar) 8.61 3 Druze (HGDP) 9.72 4 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.96 5 Syrians (Behar) 11.48 6 Jordanians (Behar) 12.48 7 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.84 8 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 13.55 9 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 13.86 10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.94 11 Turks (Behar) 13.98 12 Palestinian (HGDP) 14.63 13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.66 14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.69 15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.87 16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.01 17 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.07 18 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.49 19 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.35 20 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.42 Mixed Mode Population Sharing: # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 59% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 41% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.93 2 82.6% Druze (HGDP) + 17.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.94 3 83.1% Druze (HGDP) + 16.9% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.01 4 55.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.13 5 51.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 48.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.14 6 83.3% Druze (HGDP) + 16.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.2 7 83.4% Druze (HGDP) + 16.6% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.23 8 84% Druze (HGDP) + 16% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.26 9 84.4% Druze (HGDP) + 15.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.3 10 83.3% Druze (HGDP) + 16.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.31 11 84.5% Druze (HGDP) + 15.5% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 3.31 12 84.5% Druze (HGDP) + 15.5% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.32 13 83.3% Druze (HGDP) + 16.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.35 14 84.8% Druze (HGDP) + 15.2% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.38 15 55.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 44.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.38 16 84.3% Druze (HGDP) + 15.7% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.39 17 84.9% Druze (HGDP) + 15.1% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.4 18 85% Druze (HGDP) + 15% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.42 19 83.1% Druze (HGDP) + 16.9% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.45 20 51.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 48.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.51

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Distance to: Yalçın 3.58408984 Nusayri_Turkey 4.46913862 Greek_Cypriot 5.53780642 Turk_Cyprus 5.70263974 Lebanese_Christian 7.13305685 Lebanese_Muslim 7.57921500 Palestinian_Christian 8.27773520 Syrian_SW_Christian 8.39453394 Jordanian_Christian 8.67143587 Greek_Cappadocia 9.76551586 Greek_Rhodes 9.93855623 Palestinian 10.30343632 Greek_Kos 10.86113254 Syrian_Muslim 11.32041077 Assyrian_West 11.38855127 Jordanian_Muslim 11.53955372 Iraqi_Jew 11.77907467 Assyrian_South 11.80038982 Sephardic_Jews 11.91859472 Kurdish_Jew 12.35284987 Armenian_West 12.40735669 Assyrian_North 12.67040647 Iranian_Jew 12.75049411 Azeri_Jew 13.11331003 Italian_Jews 13.12773019 Greek_Icaria Distance to: Yalçın 1.68620272 62.60% Greek_Cypriot + 37.40% Lebanese_Muslim 1.85188706 49.20% Lebanese_Christian + 50.80% Turk_Cyprus 2.11310755 73.00% Greek_Cypriot + 27.00% Syrian_Muslim 2.13913960 64.00% Nusayri_Turkey + 36.00% Turk_Cyprus 2.21217250 53.60% Greek_Cappadocia + 46.40% Palestinian 2.21652473 80.40% Nusayri_Turkey + 19.60% Sephardic_Jews 2.26684679 17.60% Italian_Jews + 82.40% Nusayri_Turkey 2.27526001 81.40% Greek_Cypriot + 18.60% Iran_Arab 2.31836209 31.60% Egyptian + 68.40% Greek_Cappadocia 2.33925986 14.60% Ashkenazi_Jews + 85.40% Nusayri_Turkey 2.34703011 81.00% Greek_Cypriot + 19.00% Iraqi_Arab 2.35099690 78.00% Greek_Cypriot + 22.00% Iraqi_Baghdad 2.38817664 38.60% Syrian_SW_Christian + 61.40% Turk_Cyprus 2.38950878 57.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 42.80% Jordanian_Muslim 2.40138504 17.00% Greek_Icaria + 83.00% Nusayri_Turkey 2.41217297 41.00% Palestinian_Christian + 59.00% Turk_Cyprus 2.42525543 14.20% MD_Jewish + 85.80% Nusayri_Turkey 2.43830837 14.80% Italian_Calabria + 85.20% Nusayri_Turkey 2.45202392 72.00% Greek_Cypriot + 28.00% Palestinian 2.46073174 28.20% Coptic + 71.80% Greek_Cappadocia 2.49531408 41.00% Greek_Cypriot + 59.00% Nusayri_Turkey 2.51938340 14.60% Morocco_Jews + 85.40% Nusayri_Turkey 2.52252707 21.20% Greek_Rhodes + 78.80% Nusayri_Turkey 2.53317365 75.00% Greek_Cypriot + 25.00% Jordanian_Muslim 2.55784284 20.00% Greek_Kos + 80.00% Nusayri_Turkey

I found 2 other Botai samples(thank RatCat) i have their results now:

Botai1,17.43,27.27,0,1.39,0,48.11,4.68,0,0,0.97,0, 0.15
Botai2,20.62,29.44,0,0,0,46.76,3.18,0,0,0,0,0(alre ady posted)
Botai3,20.43,26.95,0,0,0,46.76,5.37,0,0,0.81,0,0.4 6

They are genetically very homogeneous and neither Iranic(or IE) nor Turkic. Maybe they were absorbed by other groups, since there is no any linguistical evidence we can’t say what they were exactly. But genetically they were Ugic and the Ugric theory is scientific accepted. Considering this results personally i would assume they were maybe the ancestors of Ugrics, as far i know R1b, N, C and O were found among them but i am not sure.

Distance to: Botai3
15.70109869 Udmurt
18.11739220 Mari
19.67567280 Besermyan_Udmurtia
21.21726420 Chuvash
23.78102815 Tatar_Zabolotniye
23.87507277 Bashkir_North
24.11986111 Bashkir_Central
24.24956494 Komi
26.94788674 Bashkir_South
27.12885917 Tatar_Kazan
29.46917881 Tatar_Siberia
29.68535666 Tatar_Mishar
31.85657546 Russian_Ural
32.56871659 Russian_Arkhangelsk
34.44774013 Altaian_Chelkan
34.91246339 Lipka_Tatar
35.02830427 Mordovian
35.22524805 Veps
35.63308575 Shor
35.82524250 Russian_Kostroma
36.24450855 Tubalar
36.76384637 North_Russian
36.98392624 Karelian
37.55398647 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
37.73754894 Finnish_East

Target: Botai3
Distance: 14.1256% / 14.12563000
74.5 Udmurt
18.5 Tatar_Zabolotniye
5.3 Meena
1.7 Iyengar

Distance to: Botai1
14.62020178 Udmurt
16.25092920 Mari
18.82771096 Besermyan_Udmurtia
19.62361587 Chuvash
22.47389152 Komi
23.08220310 Bashkir_North
23.74191020 Bashkir_Central
23.77718024 Tatar_Zabolotniye
26.36499573 Tatar_Kazan
27.26867067 Bashkir_South
28.62578907 Tatar_Mishar
29.71841348 Tatar_Siberia
30.02157891 Russian_Ural
30.36076251 Russian_Arkhangelsk
32.90097719 Veps
33.41231061 Mordovian
33.94347949 Russian_Kostroma
34.78966513 North_Russian
34.79606587 Karelian
34.97358289 Lipka_Tatar
35.11160492 Altaian_Chelkan
35.36177032 Finnish_East
36.20519852 Shor
36.44094538 Russian_Ryazan
36.52796463 Finnish_West

Target: Botai1
Distance: 13.8639% / 13.86392287
80.4 Udmurt
16.7 Tatar_Zabolotniye
2.9 Iyengar

@DrMaul, they also have some South Asian. They are older than Turkics, maybe because of that? This samples look unmixed and seem to be just another children of the steppe.

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Originally Posted by Gecko

I found 2 other Botai samples(thank RatCat) i have their results now:

Botai1,17.43,27.27,0,1.39,0,48.11,4.68,0,0,0.97,0, 0.15
Botai2,20.62,29.44,0,0,0,46.76,3.18,0,0,0,0,0(alre ady posted)
Botai3,20.43,26.95,0,0,0,46.76,5.37,0,0,0.81,0,0.4 6

They are genetically very homogeneous and neither Iranic(or IE) nor Turkic. Maybe they were absorbed by other groups, since there is no any linguistical evidence we can’t say what they were exactly. But genetically they were Ugic and the Ugric theory is scientific accepted. Considering this results personally i would assume they were maybe the ancestors of Ugrics, as far i know R1b, N, C and O were found among them but i am not sure.

Distance to: Botai3
15.70109869 Udmurt
18.11739220 Mari
19.67567280 Besermyan_Udmurtia
21.21726420 Chuvash
23.78102815 Tatar_Zabolotniye
23.87507277 Bashkir_North
24.11986111 Bashkir_Central
24.24956494 Komi
26.94788674 Bashkir_South
27.12885917 Tatar_Kazan
29.46917881 Tatar_Siberia
29.68535666 Tatar_Mishar
31.85657546 Russian_Ural
32.56871659 Russian_Arkhangelsk
34.44774013 Altaian_Chelkan
34.91246339 Lipka_Tatar
35.02830427 Mordovian
35.22524805 Veps
35.63308575 Shor
35.82524250 Russian_Kostroma
36.24450855 Tubalar
36.76384637 North_Russian
36.98392624 Karelian
37.55398647 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
37.73754894 Finnish_East

Target: Botai3
Distance: 14.1256% / 14.12563000
74.5 Udmurt
18.5 Tatar_Zabolotniye
5.3 Meena
1.7 Iyengar

Distance to: Botai1
14.62020178 Udmurt
16.25092920 Mari
18.82771096 Besermyan_Udmurtia
19.62361587 Chuvash
22.47389152 Komi
23.08220310 Bashkir_North
23.74191020 Bashkir_Central
23.77718024 Tatar_Zabolotniye
26.36499573 Tatar_Kazan
27.26867067 Bashkir_South
28.62578907 Tatar_Mishar
29.71841348 Tatar_Siberia
30.02157891 Russian_Ural
30.36076251 Russian_Arkhangelsk
32.90097719 Veps
33.41231061 Mordovian
33.94347949 Russian_Kostroma
34.78966513 North_Russian
34.79606587 Karelian
34.97358289 Lipka_Tatar
35.11160492 Altaian_Chelkan
35.36177032 Finnish_East
36.20519852 Shor
36.44094538 Russian_Ryazan
36.52796463 Finnish_West

Target: Botai1
Distance: 13.8639% / 13.86392287
80.4 Udmurt
16.7 Tatar_Zabolotniye
2.9 Iyengar

@DrMaul, they also have some South Asian. They are older than Turkics, maybe because of that? This samples look unmixed and seem to be just another children of the steppe.

Actually they look like VUR people too
(Botai man)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/a7...9515792df0.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gecko

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"Damgaard et al. (2018) extracted aDNA from three different Botai individuals. Two of them turned out to be genetically male, and another one was genetically female. Two of the samples were taken from crania curated in Petropavlovsk Museum, denoted as "Botai Excavation 14, 1983" and "Botai excavation 15".

Autosomally, the Botai population turned out to be closer to the Ancient North Eurasian component than the Yamnaya population. No significant gene flow between Botai and Yamnaya was observed.

Botai 14, dated to 3517-3108 cal BC, carried a derived allele at R1b1a1-M478. Haplogroup R1b occurs almost exclusively in non-European populations, and reaches the highest frequencies in populations surrounding the Altai region, the common ancestor with major European R1b lived somewhat more than 13 000 years ago). Botai 15, dated to 3343-3026 cal BC, belonged to the basal haplogroup N*-M231. Regarding mitochondrial DNA, the Copper Age Botai sample BOT2016 belonged to the haplogroup Z1a, Botai 15 - to R1b1, and Botai 14 - to K1b2.

One more Botai individual, tested in September 2015, belonged to the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup K1b2 and (with the 97.1% probability) the Y-DNA haplogroup O2."

https://yfull.com/tree/R-P297/

https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...amgaard_SM.pdf

http://iggc.kz/wp-content/uploads/20...noyab-2016.pdf

Here is documentary abotu Botai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AGw8sMeZjg&t=

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Originally Posted by Fedora

Here is documentary abotu Botai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AGw8sMeZjg&t=

Beautiful lifestyle i love horses:o i have horse in my village too

Here is an Ankaran result i don’t know which place he is from in Ankara.

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.92
2 Gedrosia 16.61
3 Atlantic_Med 12.28
4 Southwest_Asian 10.68
5 North_European 9.95
6 Siberian 3.75
7 East_Asian 3.47
8 Southeast_Asian 2.3
9 South_Asian 1.66
10 Northwest_African 0.23
11 East_African 0.16

Here is his myheritage results
https://youtu.be/E5ioSj_9Ums
He has 10% east eurasia but myheritage is just gave him to 3.1% Central Asia:picard1:
Myheritage is very stupid :picard2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gecko

I found 2 other Botai samples(thank RatCat) i have their results now:

Botai1,17.43,27.27,0,1.39,0,48.11,4.68,0,0,0.97,0, 0.15
Botai2,20.62,29.44,0,0,0,46.76,3.18,0,0,0,0,0(alre ady posted)
Botai3,20.43,26.95,0,0,0,46.76,5.37,0,0,0.81,0,0.4 6

They are genetically very homogeneous and neither Iranic(or IE) nor Turkic. Maybe they were absorbed by other groups, since there is no any linguistical evidence we can’t say what they were exactly. But genetically they were Ugic and the Ugric theory is scientific accepted. Considering this results personally i would assume they were maybe the ancestors of Ugrics, as far i know R1b, N, C and O were found among them but i am not sure.

Distance to: Botai3
15.70109869 Udmurt
18.11739220 Mari
19.67567280 Besermyan_Udmurtia
21.21726420 Chuvash
23.78102815 Tatar_Zabolotniye
23.87507277 Bashkir_North
24.11986111 Bashkir_Central
24.24956494 Komi
26.94788674 Bashkir_South
27.12885917 Tatar_Kazan
29.46917881 Tatar_Siberia
29.68535666 Tatar_Mishar
31.85657546 Russian_Ural
32.56871659 Russian_Arkhangelsk
34.44774013 Altaian_Chelkan
34.91246339 Lipka_Tatar
35.02830427 Mordovian
35.22524805 Veps
35.63308575 Shor
35.82524250 Russian_Kostroma
36.24450855 Tubalar
36.76384637 North_Russian
36.98392624 Karelian
37.55398647 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
37.73754894 Finnish_East

Target: Botai3
Distance: 14.1256% / 14.12563000
74.5 Udmurt
18.5 Tatar_Zabolotniye
5.3 Meena
1.7 Iyengar

Distance to: Botai1
14.62020178 Udmurt
16.25092920 Mari
18.82771096 Besermyan_Udmurtia
19.62361587 Chuvash
22.47389152 Komi
23.08220310 Bashkir_North
23.74191020 Bashkir_Central
23.77718024 Tatar_Zabolotniye
26.36499573 Tatar_Kazan
27.26867067 Bashkir_South
28.62578907 Tatar_Mishar
29.71841348 Tatar_Siberia
30.02157891 Russian_Ural
30.36076251 Russian_Arkhangelsk
32.90097719 Veps
33.41231061 Mordovian
33.94347949 Russian_Kostroma
34.78966513 North_Russian
34.79606587 Karelian
34.97358289 Lipka_Tatar
35.11160492 Altaian_Chelkan
35.36177032 Finnish_East
36.20519852 Shor
36.44094538 Russian_Ryazan
36.52796463 Finnish_West

Target: Botai1
Distance: 13.8639% / 13.86392287
80.4 Udmurt
16.7 Tatar_Zabolotniye
2.9 Iyengar

@DrMaul, they also have some South Asian. They are older than Turkics, maybe because of that? This samples look unmixed and seem to be just another children of the steppe.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gecko

@DrMaul, they also have some South Asian. They are older than Turkics, maybe because of that? This samples look unmixed and seem to be just another children of the steppe.

TBH I don't think Botai can really be attributed to any modern linguistic group, considering it is also predating Yamnaya

Iranian from Razavi-Khorasan:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...n_Iran.svg.png

Gedrosian: 26.40
Siberian: 2.69
Northwest_African: 0.88
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.07
North_European: 9.83
South_Asian: 4.81
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.95
East_Asian: 4.68
Caucasian: 34.61
Sub_Saharan: 0.08

Distance to: Razavi_Khorasan
4.84012397 Iran_Khorasan
6.10478501 Iran_Central
6.57560644 Iranian_Fars
7.02479893 Iran_C_East
7.82733032 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.38143186 Azerbaijani
8.53269594 Yazidi
8.69619457 Iranian
8.90836124 Azerbaijani_Northwest
8.93473559 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
9.05430284 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.13436369 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.19631992 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.27832420 Kurd_Adygea
9.41834380 Kurd_Sorani
9.50842784 Azerbaijani_North
9.58945775 Lur_Iran
9.76070694 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.30681328 Iraq_Turkmen
10.68391782 Zaza
10.72655117 Turkmen_TM
11.18479325 Iran_Mazandaran
11.55554845 Turk_Southeast
13.65330363 Turk_South
14.11250155 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan

Target: Razavi_Khorasan
Distance: 1.4105% / 1.41052672 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.6 Iranian_Fars
21.5 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
19.2 Iran_Mazandaran
17.7 Turkmen_Iran
12.5 Iran_Khorasan
1.5 Japanese