Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

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12-24-2019, 06:51 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick

Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)

Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

https://i.imgur.com/jE8Apfi.png
12-24-2019, 06:58 PM
Moje ime

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

So as vbnetkhio said to me in private message, it is not problem with results but with bad calculator.

If there already exist Illyrian and Thracian samples and if I get Illyrian sample BronzAgeBalkan in distances list then it
would have more logic to get it in combined model distances as well instead of those Middle Eastern.

This is message to Lukasz :)
12-24-2019, 07:07 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

Target: MI
Distance: 2.3308% / 2.33081040 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
30.0 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.8 ArmeniaCA_I1631
8.4 Sunghir6
5.4 CheddarMan
2.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
1.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.6 Srubnaya_I0232

Here is the kit #M926386 if you want to check oracle's. It seems it can be modeled as European+Caucasian and somehow, I usually see many Balkanites get Caucasians. Canaaite is a noise, clearly.
12-24-2019, 07:10 PM
Impaler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

Here is the kit #M926386 if you want to check oracle's. It seems it can be modeled as European+Caucasian and somehow, I usually see many Balkanites get Caucasians. Canaaite is a noise, clearly.

This is what I have with 0.25x

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
12-24-2019, 07:11 PM
Teutonski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impaler

This is what I have with 0.25x

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Merry Christmas to you and your family bro
12-24-2019, 07:15 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impaler

This is what I have with 0.25x

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

This is odd! What you get without Bavaria? I get them including Bavaria. (FTDNA and 23andMe kits, relatively).

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6816% / 2.68156609 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
29.8 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
5.2 Kipchak_DA179
5.0 Sunghir6
4.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
3.8 JordanEBA_I1705

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 4.5652% / 4.56516557 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 IA_Ardea_R850
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.6 Sunghir6
11.4 Ottoman_MA2196
4.4 WC1_Iran
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
12-24-2019, 07:26 PM
Impaler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teutone

Merry Christmas to you and your family bro

Same to you, my German friend. :)
12-24-2019, 07:27 PM
Impaler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

This is odd! What you get without Bavaria? I get them including Bavaria. (FTDNA and 23andMe kits, relatively).

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6816% / 2.68156609 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
29.8 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
5.2 Kipchak_DA179
5.0 Sunghir6
4.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
3.8 JordanEBA_I1705

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 4.5652% / 4.56516557 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 IA_Ardea_R850
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.6 Sunghir6
11.4 Ottoman_MA2196
4.4 WC1_Iran
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Without Bavaria:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4641% / 4.46409864 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
5.2 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125
12-24-2019, 07:31 PM
Voskos

Vahaduo is an unreliable statistical tool. I'm fully cretan and yet this calc gives me 0 of my own ethnicity, despite the fact the cretan average is included in the data .
12-24-2019, 07:35 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impaler

Without Bavaria:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4641% / 4.46409864 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
5.2 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125

This is still odd. Obviously, we need more samples. Your Canaaite score would have been lower.
12-24-2019, 07:36 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

This is still odd. Obviously, we need more samples. Your Canaaite score would have been lower.

we need k13 ancient
12-24-2019, 07:38 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voskos

Vahaduo is an unreliable statistical tool. I'm fully cretan and yet this calc gives me 0 of my own ethnicity, despite the fact the cretan average is included in the data .

Really? Do you see South Itlian etc... instead of Cretans? Maybe you should try all of distances.
12-24-2019, 07:43 PM
Voskos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

Really? Do you see South Itlian etc... instead of Cretans? Maybe you should try all of distances.

No south italian either just some sardinian and cypriot .
12-24-2019, 07:46 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

we need k13 ancient

I can provide all Gedmatch kit numbers that I provided for Ancient K15.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1na2...dfKms6JLR/view

I can make a spread sheet within a few days. I have to re-check SNP numbers (I did not use samples with low SNP numbers), and some samples do not have Gedmatch kit# anymore.
12-24-2019, 07:48 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voskos

No south italian either just some sardinian and cypriot .

Did you change ADD DIST COOL section? 0.25X is better, IMO.
12-24-2019, 07:52 PM
Voskos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

Did you change ADD DIST COOL section? 0.25X is better, IMO.

Will do later thanks for suggesting.
12-24-2019, 07:54 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voskos

Will do later thanks for suggesting.

You are welcome. Hope you get more reliable results.
12-24-2019, 07:56 PM
Bosniensis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

I can provide all Gedmatch kit numbers that I provided for Ancient K15.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1na2...dfKms6JLR/view

I can make a spread sheet within a few days. I have to re-check SNP numbers (I did not use samples with low SNP numbers), and some samples do not have Gedmatch kit# anymore.

Do you maybe know Y-DNA of Sungir6 if it's male?
12-24-2019, 07:59 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Do you maybe know Y-DNA of Sungir6 if it's male?

It should be I2a1b2a1a1a1a3-A16681.
12-24-2019, 08:02 PM
Bosniensis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

It should be I2a1b2a1a1a1a3-A16681.

so he is I-S17250 like myself, and he has 0 Eastern Med, and very little West Med.
12-24-2019, 08:12 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosniensis

so he is I-S17250 like myself, and he has 0 Eastern Med, and very little West Med.

Indeed. You can model yourself with his results and Balkan native samples such as Greeks, Thracian, Romans etc... Global 25 spread sheet also contains Sunghir sample (RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6).
12-24-2019, 08:14 PM
Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosniensis

so he is I-S17250 like myself, and he has 0 Eastern Med, and very little West Med.

Pradjed ti je bio cist a ti si egzotican poput fes na magarcu
12-24-2019, 08:20 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

I can provide all Gedmatch kit numbers that I provided for Ancient K15.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1na2...dfKms6JLR/view

I can make a spread sheet within a few days. I have to re-check SNP numbers (I did not use samples with low SNP numbers), and some samples do not have Gedmatch kit# anymore.

i merged it with my list:
https://pastebin.com/VbzkJatG

i can do the first half, from AA8478444 to ML9385881 (save their k13 snp count and results) and you the second half, if you want
12-24-2019, 08:22 PM
Bosniensis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick

Pradjed ti je bio cist a ti si egzotican poput fes na magarcu

ma hajde.. idi u kurac.. a ti si kao čist xD
12-24-2019, 08:22 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

i merged it with my list:
https://pastebin.com/VbzkJatG

i can do the first half, from AA8478444 to ML9385881 (save their k13 snp count and results) and you the second half, if you want

It would be awesome. I can make the second half.
12-24-2019, 08:29 PM
Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosniensis

ma hajde.. idi u kurac.. a ti si kao čist xD

Zezam te bolan. fala Bogu sto mi je pradjed voleo ribu sa Balkana, sto juznije to i sladje. Ne bi danas bio ziv.
12-24-2019, 08:31 PM
WeirdLookingFellow

Code:

Distance to: FellowGF 14.46982377 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 18.12692473 Bavaria_STR310 18.88922444 BR2_Hungary 19.75673050 BronzAgeBalkan 19.84390839 IA_Civitavecchia_R474 20.17647888 ScythianMoldova_SCY197 20.26680044 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332 20.58934433 MedievalHungarian_DA199 20.85444557 Scythian_SCY311 21.58347748 Vucedol_I3499 21.84251817 Ostuni1 22.43577500 IA_Civitavecchia_R473 22.52847088 EMBA_Croatia_I4331 24.32895189 IA_Ardea_R851 24.36634975 Sunghir6 24.39864750 ScythianMoldova_SCY300 24.70592034 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 25.10011554 HallstattCelt_DA112 25.48792263 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435 25.99756719 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021 26.32717417 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016 26.36186450 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015 26.54069517 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569 27.02807614 IA_Civitavecchia_R475 27.07927436 MakoCultureHungary_BR1 Distance to: Fellow 14.62428460 BR2_Hungary 14.76355648 MedievalHungarian_DA199 14.98423505 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 16.13330096 IA_Civitavecchia_R474 16.47103822 Bavaria_STR310 17.15162091 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332 17.65860130 ScythianMoldova_SCY197 18.30453496 Scythian_SCY311 18.81027113 BronzAgeBalkan 19.03222793 EMBA_Croatia_I4331 19.38113774 HallstattCelt_DA112 19.51666724 Ostuni1 20.11648578 IA_Ardea_R851 20.33889132 IA_Civitavecchia_R473 21.99482439 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435 22.26669711 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569 22.41896073 Vucedol_I3499 22.61785136 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016 22.72589272 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015 22.98516478 MakoCultureHungary_BR1 23.19067485 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021 24.65590396 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 24.70113155 Sunghir6 24.93313257 ScythianMoldova_SCY300 25.16839288 IA_Civitavecchia_R475

Code:

Target: FellowGF Distance: 5.8216% / 5.82158711 | ADC: 0.5x 56.4 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 33.2 Sunghir6 5.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634 4.6 IA_Ardea_R850 Target: Fellow Distance: 7.5060% / 7.50598745 | ADC: 0.5x 39.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 23.4 Sunghir6 21.0 MedievalHungarian_DA199 9.0 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 6.6 BR2_Hungary 0.2 Ostuni1 Target: FellowGF Distance: 3.7033% / 3.70334201 | ADC: 0.25x 40.4 Sunghir6 31.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 9.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 7.8 IA_Ardea_R850 6.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634 3.6 Ostuni1 0.4 CovachadelAngel_COV20126 Target: Fellow Distance: 3.8732% / 3.87324520 | ADC: 0.25x 14.6 Sunghir6 14.4 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569 13.2 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 11.0 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 9.4 Ostuni1 8.8 BR2_Hungary 8.8 HallstattCelt_DA112 6.6 Canaanite_ERS1790729 4.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871 4.4 MedievalHungarian_DA199 4.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 Target: FellowGF Distance: 1.7548% / 1.75482222 45.8 Sunghir6 22.2 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 11.6 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634 9.2 CovachadelAngel_COV20126 3.6 IA_Ardea_R850 3.0 CheddarMan 2.8 Ostuni1 1.0 MakoCultureHungary_BR1 0.8 Neolithic_Baikal Target: Fellow Distance: 0.8896% / 0.88963513 30.2 CheddarMan 19.8 Sunghir6 15.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073 12.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 10.4 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003 6.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871 2.6 Ostuni1 1.2 KennewickMan 1.0 Yoruba00920 0.6 ShamankaEBA_DA337
12-24-2019, 10:10 PM
Nurzat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick

It’s probably nurzat

no, it's not me, I've got nothing to do with Botosani county. it's one of my friends that tested together with me. in all likeliness his dad's village was originally Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - Botosani is at the border, there's Ukrainians in it as there's Romanians beyond the border into Ukraine.

I've posted my results separately both for Eurogenes and vahaduo, I am modelled as half Ukrainian, but I am one, so no surprise - while this guy is a Romanian nationalist while being genetically half Ukrainian himself, and with a Ukrainian surname xD
12-25-2019, 11:50 AM
oszkar07

Distance to: Oszkar
5.09413388 hungarian
6.28632643 slovenian
6.41502923 n-european
8.08083535 utahn-white2
8.43911133 utahn-white1
10.61776813 british
12.05555888 french
12.55075695 orcadian
13.33521278 ukranian
15.68503746 serbian
18.73237038 belorussian
19.52568565 mordovian
20.60850310 russian1
20.76668967 romanian-a
22.39260146 russian2
23.25187949 bulgarian
24.82828427 spaniard2
25.89851154 lithuanian
25.94814252 italian
25.99330298 spaniard1
26.68535741 chuvash
31.92295726 tuscan2
32.17426301 tuscan3
32.56959165 tuscan1
35.15013940 spain-basc
35.90226037 puerto-rican1
36.90729467 singapore-indian-d
36.99898377 basque
39.78543578 finnish
39.96603808 ashkenazi

Target: oszkar
Distance: 1.1064% / 1.10640722 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 hungarian
26.0 n-european
15.6 utahn-white1
0.8 french
0.4 nganassan
0.2 bedouin
12-25-2019, 03:44 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurzat

no, it's not me, I've got nothing to do with Botosani county. it's one of my friends that tested together with me. in all likeliness his dad's village was originally Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - Botosani is at the border, there's Ukrainians in it as there's Romanians beyond the border into Ukraine.

I've posted my results separately both for Eurogenes and vahaduo, I am modelled as half Ukrainian, but I am one, so no surprise - while this guy is a Romanian nationalist while being genetically half Ukrainian himself, and with a Ukrainian surname xD

Those are the worst:)
12-25-2019, 03:51 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurzat

no, it's not me, I've got nothing to do with Botosani county. it's one of my friends that tested together with me. in all likeliness his dad's village was originally Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - Botosani is at the border, there's Ukrainians in it as there's Romanians beyond the border into Ukraine.

I've posted my results separately both for Eurogenes and vahaduo, I am modelled as half Ukrainian, but I am one, so no surprise - while this guy is a Romanian nationalist while being genetically half Ukrainian himself, and with a Ukrainian surname xD

Aren't you half Ruthenian? They are not Ukrainians neither genetically not historically, just recently Ukrainized and most Ruthenians resist that.
12-25-2019, 04:01 PM
Cumansky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feiichy

Aren't you half Ruthenian? They are not Ukrainians neither genetically not historically, just recently Ukrainized and most Ruthenians resist that.

What are you Slovenian witch?
12-25-2019, 04:02 PM
Cumansky

Harappaworld

Target: Cumansky_Harappa
Distance: 0.6102% / 0.61020957
47.2 lithuanian
17.0 basque
12.2 romanian-a
10.2 finnish
8.8 north-ossetian
2.8 mordovian
1.0 puerto-rican1
0.8 sardinian
12-25-2019, 04:03 PM
Cumansky

Target: Cumansky_FatherHarappa
Distance: 2.8893% / 2.88927873
47.8 lithuanian
22.0 romanian-a
15.6 mordovian
8.4 spaniard2
6.2 spain-basc
12-25-2019, 04:04 PM
Cumansky

Target: Cumansky_MotherHarappa
Distance: 2.6902% / 2.69018764
61.0 lithuanian
16.8 morocco-jew
11.0 basque
5.8 finnish
5.4 turkmen-afghanistan
12-25-2019, 04:05 PM
Cumansky

Target: Cumansky_UncleHarappa
Distance: 0.7761% / 0.77606924
41.0 lithuanian
22.8 hungarian
15.0 urkarah
11.8 basque
7.4 bulgarian
1.8 north-ossetian
0.2 altaian
12-28-2019, 10:06 AM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

It would be awesome. I can make the second half.

here's the first half:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
12-28-2019, 11:23 AM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

here's the first half:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Wow. You are super quick. I still need more days to finish part II. I am around half way yet, I am busy nowadays. I guess, I will be faster in this weekend and on New Year holiday.
12-28-2019, 11:26 AM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

Wow. You are super quick. I still need more days to finish part II. I am around half way yet, I am busy nowadays. I guess, I will be faster in this weekend and on New Year holiday.

ok, no problem. do you use libre office calc btw?
12-28-2019, 11:43 AM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

ok, no problem. do you use libre office calc btw?

Well, I did not know the program before you write. Should I use it and merge all the data in LibreOffice Calc?

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