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01-02-2022, 09:32 AM
mariusz99

I'm impressed, really impressed. I'm so impresed just like last time when I detected Parsi India/Bangladeshi for my girlfriend with K13 and G25. MyHeritage was to weak to show it...
My grandma results with almost full datasheet shows Lower Saxony. 1000% accuracy.

Target: babcia
Distance: 1.2248% / 1.22482924
43.2 Belarusian_Minsk
21.5 German_Lower_Saxony_north
16.3 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
11.3 Russian_Pskov
5.9 German_West_Prussia
0.9 Jat_Punjab
0.6 Gujarati
0.3 Upper_Silesia

Thank you Stearsolina and Rothaer for new, very accurate averages :)
01-02-2022, 10:00 AM
Kyp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

It is done. Big thanks to rothaer! :D K13 New Year gift.

Code:

German_Saxony,37.14,34.35,13.58,5.86,5.61,0.87,1.08,0.06,0.25,0.58,0.30,0.14,0.17 German_Upper_Swabia,41.54,22.90,15.28,6.77,10.64,0.68,0.72,0.27,0.41,0.34,0.39,0.00,0.05 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south,41.19,31.63,11.12,5.16,7.34,1.02,0.62,0.25,0.28,0.56,0.50,0.20,0.12 German_West_Mecklenburg,45.13,33.44,9.22,6.21,3.28,0.16,0.49,0.62,0.34,0.34,0.33,0.43,0.00 German_North_Hesse,43.69,22.35,14.83,4.48,10.49,1.78,0,0.69,0,0.86,0.22,0,0.6 German_Central_Hesse,41.92,26.21,14.96,8.9,5.73,0.87,0,0.9,0,0,0.45,0.05,0 German_South_Hesse,41.78,21.94,17.52,5.66,8.80,1.50,0.66,0.33,0.41,0.56,0.46,0.11,0.27 German_Lower_Franconia,41.02,24.79,15.76,6.57,8.84,0.72,0.67,0.15,0.00,0.82,0.04,0.53,0.08 German_North_Bohemia,38.27,31.61,13.93,5.63,7.42,0.38,0.90,0.53,0.10,0.41,0.50,0.00,0.31 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony,39.15,31.43,12.59,6.21,7.42,1.47,0.00,0.03,0.15,0.02,0.00,1.12,0.39 German_Saarland,43.97,19.91,19.32,7.13,6.82,0.88,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,0.26,0.00 German_Bavaria_proper,40.02,23.94,15.40,7.03,10.46,1.26,0.35,0.29,0.25,0.58,0.36,0.04,0.00 German_Bavarian_Swabia,34.71,26.3,19.15,7.19,11.37,0,0,0,0,0.37,0.4,0,0.46 German_North_Rhine,43.32,22.19,15.70,7.63,8.21,0.71,0.91,0.15,0.26,0.14,0.38,0.26,0.15 German_North_Baden,41.05,22.09,17.19,6.37,10.17,0.35,0.68,0.38,0.58,0.17,0.53,0.28,0.16 German_East_Prussia_Memelland,29.91,52.02,10.63,3.88,0,0,1.83,0,0.81,0.58,0,0,0.34 German_East_Prussia_Masuria,33.26,44.37,9.00,4.57,3.12,0.15,2.31,0.47,0.75,0.74,0.61,0.00,0.68 German_Hither_Pomerania,44.4,31.31,9.62,7.56,4.12,0.7,0.43,0.31,0.88,0.2,0,0.48,0 German_Farther_Pomerania,39.85,37.28,9.79,5.50,2.77,1.10,1.82,0.00,0.07,0.45,0.35,1.02,0.04 Upper_Silesia,33.01,43.21,9.27,6.4,5.21,0.26,0.67,0,1.04,0.31,0.58,0,0.06 German_County_Glatz,35.77,31.04,14.63,8.13,7.64,0.3,0,1.02,0,0.72,0,0.72,0 Austrian_Upper_Austria,41.93,23.93,16.96,8.73,6.52,1.43,0,0.22,0,0,0.16,0.1,0 German_Lower_Saxony_north,50.86,28.10,10.10,5.94,2.03,0.00,1.50,0.78,0.00,0.18,0.48,0.03,0.00 German_Lower_Saxony_south,48.89,25.02,11.37,6.26,4.56,0.58,1.97,0.00,0.24,0.31,0.05,0.16,0.58 German_Westphalia,49.31,25.15,11.25,7.18,3.97,0.69,0.72,0.18,0.07,0.79,0.10,0.10,0.50 German_West_Prussia,35.60,39.30,11.20,6.60,4.18,0.25,0.89,0.00,0.68,0.34,0.47,0.00,0.48 German_Rhineland-Palatinate,42.42,21.25,16.46,7.21,8.90,1.51,0.02,0.20,1.11,0.20,0.23,0.33,0.16 Austrian_Lower_Austria,35.32,24.04,19.78,9.1,9.12,0.4,1.02,0,0,0.32,0.89,0,0 German_Hamburg,50.83,28.92,8.41,3.93,4.04,1.33,1.32,0,0.62,0.15,0,0.45,0 German_Frisian,55.45,25.92,9.33,2.93,1.79,1.02,2.22,0,0.33,0,1,0,0 German_Schleswig-Holstein,49.59,28.21,13.33,5.42,0,1.79,0,1.19,0,0,0,0,0.47 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow),26.92,44.46,14.49,5.95,6.25,0,0,0.72,0,0.17,0.74,0,0.3 Austrian_Carinthia,34.35,34.42,13.15,3.82,10.84,1.04,1.43,0,0.39,0,0.11,0.1,0

Distance to: Mother(Lower_Franconia)
3.31728805 German_Lower_Franconia
3.51957384 German_Central_Hesse
4.38505416 Austrian_Upper_Austria
4.40295355 Austrian
4.73492344 German_Bavaria_proper
5.25397944 French_Alsace
5.68814557 German_North_Bohemia
5.78847994 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
5.93646359 German_Upper_Swabia
6.11973856 German_County_Glatz
6.20115312 German_South_Hesse
6.21578635 German_North_Rhine
6.25196769 Swiss_German
6.35897004 German_North_Baden
6.76110198 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
7.06093478 Afrikaner
7.14986713 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
7.32492321 Belgian
7.38554670 Flemish
7.40425553 Pennsylvania_Dutch
7.44330572 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.63902481 Dutch_South
7.65245059 German_North_Hesse
7.65422759 French_Northeast
7.78628281 German_Bavarian_Swabia
01-02-2022, 10:18 AM
rothaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

I can see the Frisian average is a bit out there and based on one sample, I'd recommend using this one too.

Code:

Nordfriesland1 49.66 27.9 10.41 3.62 3.86 0.74 1.43 0 1.66 0.58 0 0 0.13 T381963

A few others that I don't know if you used or not. If any of the kits/gedcoms are no longer working I'm pretty sure I checked them myself.

Schleswig-Holstein

Code:

SH1 50.67 25.39 11.43 4.89 5.44 0.13 0 0.08 0 0.69 0.72 0.38 0.17 T166457 SH2 54.08 26.84 10.79 1.49 2.49 2.1 1.18 0 0 0 0.36 0.45 0.22 H583226 SH3 49.58 28.9 10.42 4.84 3.98 0 0.83 0.18 0 1.27 0 0 0 T717539

Hamburg

Code:

Hamburg1 48.79 26.74 9.26 5.84 5.41 0 0.66 0 0.29 1.79 0.95 0.27 0 H150101 Hamburg2 44.14 28.51 14.42 4.75 5.54 0 0 0.2 0.41 1.2 0 0.17 0.65 H934074

Thanks for these!

I checked them with the following results:

Nordfriesland kit is not in the data base (btw. Frisians are minorioty in North Frisland, so it would be expected to be an non-Frisian, even if indigenous).

SH1 is half from NRW according to the GEDCOM.
SH2 is good and even from Schleswig part only.
SH3 is good and can be said Schleswig-Holstein in general.

Hamburg1 has two parents from Hamburg, but the grandparents are not visible from where they are, even if partly died in Hamburg.
Hamburg2 has no GEDCOM.

To keep the current confidence level of the data I'll use and add SH2 and SH3. :thumb001:
01-02-2022, 10:29 AM
rothaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty

This is really great. Thanks, Stearsolina and rothaer. It looks like Vorpommern is heavily Germanic? (...) And Hinterpommern, although predictably more Slavic than Vorpommern, is only about half Slavic. Do we know where in Hinterpommern the samples came from?

In the whole of Pomerania the more coastal areas with heavy soils were more settled by Germans in the middle ages than the inland and Vorpommern is a rather "coastal" part, so it is elevated Germanic, maybe even more then the average of Mecklenburg.

The Hinterpommern references are from Regenwalde area and from Lauenburg/Stolp area, so you can say half from the center and half from the east.
01-02-2022, 10:35 AM
rothaer

First me and then 5 children with an untested wife1. You can see that wife1 will not have notably deviated in her ancestry composition from me - though our both ancestry actually is regionally diverse. In all following results I for curiosity emphasize my three closest pops.

Distance to: rothaer
4.39591856 German_Farther_Pomerania
4.63551507 German_Saxony
5.22375344 German_West_Prussia
7.38247926 German_North_Bohemia
7.39816869 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
7.59100784 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
8.97856336 German_West_Mecklenburg
8.99742185 Austrian_Carinthia
9.32889061 German_County_Glatz
9.43978813 Austrian
9.53106500 German_Hither_Pomerania
9.59444110 Upper_Silesia
10.20698780 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
11.40726085 German
12.87113826 German_Central_Hesse
14.28801596 German_Lower_Franconia
14.63136699 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
14.91730874 German_Schleswig-Holstein
15.29800967 Austrian_Upper_Austria
15.42379655 German_Bavaria_proper
15.48067505 German_Hamburg
15.78507523 German_Bavarian_Swabia
15.96985598 German_Lower_Saxony_north
16.27794213 German_Lower_Saxony_south
16.55760248 German_Westphalia

Distance to: rothaer_child1
4.03254262 German_Farther_Pomerania
4.45911426 German_West_Prussia
5.52650884 German_Saxony
8.54861977 German_North_Bohemia
8.60455693 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
8.82580874 German_West_Mecklenburg
8.89263178 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
9.14788500 Upper_Silesia
9.67908570 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
9.68163726 German_Hither_Pomerania
9.85894011 German_County_Glatz
10.62272564 Austrian
10.84578720 Austrian_Carinthia
12.39298592 German
13.30823429 German_Central_Hesse
14.31370672 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
14.93501925 German_Schleswig-Holstein
15.33886893 German_Lower_Franconia
15.93775392 Austrian_Upper_Austria
16.04737985 German_Lower_Saxony_north
16.11803958 German_Hamburg
16.66465721 German_Bavaria_proper
16.80377041 German_Bavarian_Swabia
16.83877965 German_Lower_Saxony_south
16.86918789 German_Westphalia

Distance to: rothaer_child2
3.83313188 German_Saxony
4.99533783 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
5.16914887 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
5.29608346 German_North_Bohemia
5.31275823 German_Farther_Pomerania
7.40411372 German_West_Prussia
7.50016666 Austrian
7.53910472 German_West_Mecklenburg
7.70948118 German_Hither_Pomerania
7.81140832 German_County_Glatz
8.57680010 German
8.59918019 Austrian_Carinthia
10.31723316 German_Central_Hesse
11.49710833 German_Lower_Franconia
12.06489121 Upper_Silesia
12.65126081 Austrian_Upper_Austria
12.77264264 German_Schleswig-Holstein
12.81313389 German_Bavaria_proper
12.94589896 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
13.45195897 German_Hamburg
13.79381383 German_Lower_Saxony_south
13.88057996 German_Upper_Swabia
13.88482985 German_Bavarian_Swabia
13.91483381 German_Lower_Saxony_north
14.05719389 German_Westphalia

Distance to: rothaer_child3
4.06922597 German_Farther_Pomerania
4.96216687 German_Saxony
5.00148978 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
5.55533077 German_West_Mecklenburg
5.83170644 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
5.99965832 German_Hither_Pomerania
6.33344298 German_North_Bohemia
7.03881382 German_West_Prussia
8.63228243 Austrian
8.74885707 German_County_Glatz
8.88615215 German
9.92126504 Austrian_Carinthia
10.57280947 German_Central_Hesse
11.69280976 Upper_Silesia
12.28488502 German_Schleswig-Holstein
12.29930486 German_Lower_Franconia
12.34646508 German_Hamburg
12.54442904 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
12.73005106 German_Lower_Saxony_north
13.09472795 German_Lower_Saxony_south
13.23633257 German_Westphalia
13.31837828 Austrian_Upper_Austria
13.61580699 German_Bavaria_proper
14.49758256 German_Upper_Swabia
14.66593672 German_North_Rhine

Distance to: rothaer_child4
4.64303780 German_West_Prussia
4.67099561 German_Saxony
5.70549735 German_Farther_Pomerania
7.91513740 German_North_Bohemia
8.43240772 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
9.02860454 Upper_Silesia
9.15878813 Austrian_Carinthia
9.16008734 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
9.18546678 German_County_Glatz
9.56253105 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
9.84235744 Austrian
10.72239712 German_West_Mecklenburg
11.26579780 German_Hither_Pomerania
12.55881364 German
12.93568321 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
13.62324484 German_Central_Hesse
14.99445898 German_Lower_Franconia
15.53151635 German_Bavarian_Swabia
15.89257374 Austrian_Upper_Austria
16.16826831 German_Bavaria_proper
16.18516296 German_Schleswig-Holstein
16.78143617 Austrian_Lower_Austria
16.85802183 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
17.43660231 German_Hamburg
17.45181366 German_Upper_Swabia

Distance to: rothaer_child5
1.72667310 German_Saxony
4.02981389 German_North_Bohemia
4.53081670 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
5.54261671 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
5.58616147 German_County_Glatz
6.00054997 German_West_Prussia
6.01259511 German_Farther_Pomerania
6.09934423 Austrian
7.33570719 Austrian_Carinthia
8.42286175 German_Hither_Pomerania
8.71751111 German_West_Mecklenburg
8.99894438 German
9.91852812 German_Central_Hesse
10.86709253 Upper_Silesia
11.17957960 German_Lower_Franconia
12.24194021 German_Bavaria_proper
12.27292141 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
12.34092379 German_Bavarian_Swabia
12.34878537 Austrian_Upper_Austria
13.51479930 German_Upper_Swabia
13.57643547 Austrian_Lower_Austria
14.12939489 German_North_Rhine
14.30709964 German_North_Baden
14.30770771 German_South_Hesse
14.44287714 German_Schleswig-Holstein

Then wife2 that is fully from Mecklenburg and three children with her:

Distance to: rothaer_wife2
3.14671257 German_West_Mecklenburg
5.53250395 German_Hither_Pomerania
6.95854151 German_Hamburg
7.46111922 German_Lower_Saxony_north
8.62310269 German_Farther_Pomerania
8.68092737 German_Schleswig-Holstein
9.13161541 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
10.24599434 German_Westphalia
10.40977425 German_Lower_Saxony_south
10.94814139 German
11.34369869 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
12.04457554 German_Frisian
12.21476975 German_Saxony
12.36447330 German_North_Bohemia
12.99753053 German_Central_Hesse
13.49674035 German_West_Prussia
14.46644393 Austrian
15.10072184 German_County_Glatz
15.36294243 German_Lower_Franconia
15.74110860 Austrian_Upper_Austria
16.19790110 German_North_Rhine
16.55631602 German_North_Hesse
16.63038785 Austrian_Carinthia
16.96791973 German_Bavaria_proper
17.01258946 German_Upper_Swabia

Distance to: rothaer_child6
4.22454731 German_Hither_Pomerania
4.30192980 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
4.49944441 German_West_Mecklenburg
5.33168829 German_Farther_Pomerania
5.50095446 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
5.93100329 German_Saxony
6.30142841 German_North_Bohemia
7.15111180 German
8.21196688 Austrian
8.95963169 German_County_Glatz
8.99971111 German_Central_Hesse
9.00887340 German_West_Prussia
10.49606117 German_Schleswig-Holstein
10.54063091 German_Hamburg
10.78325554 Austrian_Carinthia
10.80719668 German_Lower_Saxony_north
10.92746997 German_Lower_Saxony_south
10.98214915 German_Lower_Franconia
11.20326738 German_Westphalia
11.75162542 Austrian_Upper_Austria
12.40273760 German_Bavaria_proper
12.91952011 German_North_Rhine
13.07255140 German_Upper_Swabia
13.58196598 German_North_Hesse
13.73664078 Upper_Silesia

Distance to: rothaer_child7
4.48001116 German_West_Mecklenburg
5.03791624 German_Farther_Pomerania
6.36616839 German_Hither_Pomerania
7.40716545 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
9.02577974 German_Saxony
9.29793525 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
9.88812925 German_West_Prussia
10.04434667 German_North_Bohemia
10.04861184 German_Hamburg
10.71086831 German
11.02805513 German_Lower_Saxony_north
11.20704243 German_Schleswig-Holstein
12.34735194 Austrian
12.64092164 German_Lower_Saxony_south
12.89487107 German_Westphalia
12.98726684 German_County_Glatz
13.05628201 German_Central_Hesse
13.20976533 Austrian_Carinthia
13.72945738 Upper_Silesia
13.79871371 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
14.89723800 German_Lower_Franconia
15.42720649 German_Frisian
15.76489772 Austrian_Upper_Austria
16.34288836 German_Bavaria_proper
16.58869193 German_North_Rhine

Distance to: rothaer_child8
4.72751520 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
5.60928694 German_Farther_Pomerania
5.90359213 German_West_Mecklenburg
6.07735962 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
6.32896516 German_Hither_Pomerania
6.38786349 German_Saxony
6.98406758 German_North_Bohemia
8.68292577 German
8.83026613 German_West_Prussia
9.11093848 Austrian
9.93182763 German_County_Glatz
9.97932863 Austrian_Carinthia
11.00087269 German_Central_Hesse
11.28257506 German_Hamburg
11.97380892 German_Schleswig-Holstein
12.24686082 German_Lower_Franconia
12.39578557 German_Lower_Saxony_north
12.64854932 German_Lower_Saxony_south
12.94699965 German_Westphalia
12.97134149 Upper_Silesia
13.43104985 German_Bavaria_proper
13.48906594 Austrian_Upper_Austria
13.80759211 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
14.18812179 German_Upper_Swabia
14.26900137 German_North_Hesse
01-02-2022, 10:38 AM
J. Ketch

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaer

Thanks for these!

I checked them with the following results:

Nordfriesland kit is not in the data base (btw. Frisians are minorioty in North Frisland, so it would be expected to be an non-Frisian, even if indigenous).

SH1 is half from NRW according to the GEDCOM.
SH2 is good and even from Schleswig part only.
SH3 is good and can be said Schleswig-Holstein in general.

Hamburg1 has two parents from Hamburg, but the granbdparents are not visible from where they are, even if partly died in Hamburg.
Hamburg2 has no GEDCOM.

To keep the current confidence level of the data I'll use and add SH2 and SH3. :thumb001:

I appreciate the desire to be strict, with regards to the Nordfriesland one I'm quite certain it was from one of the small islands. I posted it earlier in the thread when it was still working.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

Nordfriesland (from one of the islands IIRC)

K13

1 North_Atlantic 49.66
2 Baltic 27.9
3 West_Med 10.41
4 East_Med 3.86
5 West_Asian 3.62
6 Siberian 1.66
7 South_Asian 1.43
8 Red_Sea 0.74
9 Amerindian 0.58
10 Sub-Saharan 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 2.71
2 North_Dutch 3.18
3 Norwegian 3.28
4 North_German 4.11
5 Swedish 4.35
6 Orcadian 4.41
7 Irish 5.75
8 Southeast_English 5.76
9 West_Scottish 6.04
10 Southwest_English 7.38
11 South_Dutch 9.08
12 North_Swedish 9.61
13 West_German 9.86
14 East_German 12.42
15 Austrian 12.68
16 French 15.09
17 Hungarian 16.76
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.67
19 South_Polish 20.97
20 Croatian 22.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Southeast_English + 36.5% North_Swedish @ 2
2 70.5% Orcadian + 29.5% North_Swedish @ 2.01
3 84.2% Danish + 15.8% North_Swedish @ 2.07
4 91% Danish + 9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.08
5 81.9% Orcadian + 18.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.13
6 94.2% Danish + 5.8% East_Finnish @ 2.16
7 93.6% Danish + 6.4% Finnish @ 2.19
8 86% Orcadian + 14% Finnish @ 2.23
9 58.8% Swedish + 41.2% Southeast_English @ 2.27
10 94.5% Danish + 5.5% Estonian @ 2.28
11 75.8% West_Scottish + 24.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.3
12 87.8% Orcadian + 12.2% East_Finnish @ 2.32
13 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Mari @ 2.32
14 81.1% North_Dutch + 18.9% North_Swedish @ 2.32
15 89% North_Dutch + 11% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.33
16 98.2% Danish + 1.8% Selkup @ 2.34
17 98.2% Danish + 1.8% Ket @ 2.36
18 73.3% Danish + 26.7% Swedish @ 2.37
19 62.6% West_Scottish + 37.4% North_Swedish @ 2.37
20 92.8% North_Dutch + 7.2% East_Finnish @ 2.38

K15

1 North_Sea 37.41
2 Atlantic 26.06
3 Baltic 13.73
4 Eastern_Euro 10.49
5 West_Med 6.99
6 West_Asian 2.13
7 South_Asian 1.08
8 Siberian 0.99
9 Red_Sea 0.58
10 Amerindian 0.36
11 East_Med 0.12
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 2.87
2 Norwegian 3.35
3 Danish 3.43
4 Swedish 4.32
5 West_Norwegian 4.97
6 West_Scottish 5.22
7 North_German 5.31
8 Irish 5.35
9 Southeast_English 6.07
10 Orcadian 6.1
11 Southwest_English 6.76
12 North_Swedish 7.1
13 West_German 9.1
14 South_Dutch 9.3
15 East_German 11.86
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.55
17 French 14.05
18 Finnish 15.62
19 Hungarian 16.42
20 Austrian 16.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% Orcadian + 21.5% Estonian @ 1.59
2 75.9% North_Dutch + 24.1% North_Swedish @ 1.86
3 88.9% Swedish + 11.1% French_Basque @ 1.91
4 91.8% Norwegian + 8.2% French_Basque @ 1.93
5 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Lithuanian @ 1.94
6 88.1% North_Dutch + 11.9% Finnish @ 1.95
7 56.4% Swedish + 43.6% Irish @ 1.96
8 64.6% Norwegian + 35.4% Irish @ 1.96
9 85.6% North_Dutch + 14.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.97
10 57.8% Irish + 42.2% North_Swedish @ 1.99
11 91% North_Dutch + 9% East_Finnish @ 2.02
12 60% Swedish + 40% Southeast_English @ 2.02
13 55.8% Swedish + 44.2% West_Scottish @ 2.03
14 62.9% Swedish + 37.1% Southwest_English @ 2.06
15 91.6% North_Dutch + 8.4% Estonian @ 2.07
16 57.4% North_Dutch + 42.6% Norwegian @ 2.13
17 65.4% Norwegian + 34.6% North_German @ 2.16
18 68.4% Orcadian + 31.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.17
19 58.7% West_Scottish + 41.3% North_Swedish @ 2.18
20 66.9% North_Dutch + 33.1% Swedish @ 2.2
01-02-2022, 10:40 AM
Peterski

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaer

Hinterpommern references are from Regenwalde area and from Lauenburg/Stolp area

Let me guess, they form 2 distinct clusters, with only Lauenburg/Stolp being very Slavic.

I have Hinterpommern samples from here (the markers show birthplaces of ancestors):

https://i.imgur.com/obXsRwl.png

And another one from here (Person #2) - and both of them are rather Germanic-shifted:

https://i.imgur.com/ucmhrEr.png

^^^
Person #2 - K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.69
2 Baltic 36.35
3 West_Med 11.11
4 West_Asian 7.11
5 South_Asian 2
6 East_Med 1.93
7 Sub-Saharan 1.35
8 Red_Sea 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.07
10 Oceanian 0.07

I cannot check Person #1 results now because of GEDmatch error:

AJAX error: Internal Server ErrorText Status: error Response Text: An internal server error occurred. Please try again later.
01-02-2022, 11:34 AM
rothaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

I appreciate the desire to be strict, with regards to the Nordfriesland one I'm quite certain it was from one of the small islands. I posted it earlier in the thread when it was still working.

Maybe it has to be said that Friesland does not automatically mean Frisians. Ethnic Frisians live in Frisland in the Netherlands, also called West Frisia, and in North Frisland, which is in NW Schleswig-Holstein. But Frisians are there just a minority, also in the Islands. So if you have an indigenous individual from an island in North Frisia, the probabillity that it is a non_Frisian is high. They might be Saxons or other Germans or one or another also a Dane. The individual could be used for Schleswig-Holstein if the pedigree supports it farther back.

Btw. there is also Ostfriesland (East Frisland) in Lower Saxony that is bordering the Frisland in the Netherlands. But these "Ostfriesen" and their language (ostfriesisch) are actually not Frisian. They are Germanised and the ancestry proportion of Frisians is not known to me.
01-02-2022, 11:47 AM
Peterski

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaer

Maybe it has to be said that Friesland does not automatically mean Frisians. Ethnic Frisians live in Frisland in the Netherlands, also called West Frisia, and in North Frisland, which is in NW Schleswig-Holstein. But Frisians are there just a minority, also in the Islands. So if you have an indigenous individual from an Island in North Frisia, the probabillity that it is a non_Frisian is high. They might be Saxons or other Germans or one or another also a Dane. The individual could be used for Schleswig-Holstein if the pedigree supports it farther back.
Btw. there is also Ostfriesland (East Frisland) in Lower Saxony that is bordering the Frisland in Netherlands. But these "Ostfriesen" and their language (ostfriesisch) are actually not Frisian. They are Germanised and the ancestry proportion of Frisians is not known to me.

This is why we have a function called "email", and we can email people from GEDmatch and ask them questions.

I emailed T381963 (long ago) and I got a response that T381963 is only half Frisian, but T802916 is fully Frisian:

https://i.imgur.com/7z7cIVH.png

But I did not save Eurogenes K13 for this kit, and now I can't check because GEDmatch is not working currently.
01-02-2022, 11:54 AM
rothaer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomenable

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Person #2 - K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.69
2 Baltic 36.35
3 West_Med 11.11
4 West_Asian 7.11
5 South_Asian 2
6 East_Med 1.93
7 Sub-Saharan 1.35
8 Red_Sea 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.07
10 Oceanian 0.07

I cannot check Person #1 results now because of GEDmatch error:

AJAX error: Internal Server ErrorText Status: error Response Text: An internal server error occurred. Please try again later.

You got the requested West Prussian kits with information and kit numbers from me within 5 minutes. Your behaviour sinces days regarding the references is incredible. Do you think I'm a trained dog that is willing to jump after sticks that you throw? I'll not take part in this theater. Keep your important secrets for yourself and have a nice day.

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