Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Sorry to bust your bubble but the Greek government already recognized the Macedonian language via Prespa agreement. Even in 1977 with Karamanlis government

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They might as well recognize ouga-bouga as a language, doesn`t mean it is true. If I declare myself an alien doesn`t make me one.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Pay attention to he is responding to and knowing the history of the person who he is responding to.

One of Zeus greatest strengths is driving his opponents insane. Straight from Mt Olympus.

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Is there an option we have no trolling between us? That`s my preference.

We have here RabbitHole 2.0, Turks and Skopjans trolling us and we are infighting. Spot the problem.

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Originally Posted by Konstantinos

We have here RabbitHole 2.0, Turks and Skopjans trolling us and we are infighting. Spot the problem.

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Who is the RabbitHole2.0?

So, about Pontic Greeks.....

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Originally Posted by Hudayar

This is quite strange. You lack any East Asian/Siberian contribution, usually for Turks it's between 5-15%, can go up to 22% depending on the person, yet you score close to Turks and even to Azeris.

I'm assuming this is because of noticeable European contribution combined with East Mediterranean heritage. Compared to Armenians/Anatolian-Greeks, Turks score higher European due to Yamnaya heritage. You might not be fully Pontian though since your results are wildly different from others.

The European admixture can't be described with Greek heritage since Greeks themselves are around 30% at best. A fully Pontic person having 20% doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The average there is literally 1%

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I am full Pontian having russian great grandmother. So 1/8 Russia.

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Originally Posted by Vojnik

Why is it that Greeks think they invented the world, but could not invent something as simple as the sounds ‘sh’ and ‘ch’?

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World wasn't invented by Greeks it was our dear God who did

But Greeks were the first who figured out that the world is round :)

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Who is the RabbitHole2.0?

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Substitute HittitoPhoenician with GrecoCarian and your eyes shall open.

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Originally Posted by Konstantinos

Ok here me out.

Greeks have a lot of variety. Pontic Greeks are the most outlying in the sense that they are the closest to Lazs and Armenians but they are distinct from them in the sense that they show "Mediterranean" shift. This situation is to be expected since Pontus is the farthest Greek region from the core and doesn't have land borders with any other Greek region, so the initial Greek colonizers couldn't be a lot since they have to have traveled by sea(as we also know through history). These colonizers quickly Hellenized the local population and developed the modern Pontic Greek profile.

Now so far the Pontic Greek results that floated around were much closer to Lazs and Armenians than yours. Essentially that means you show much more Mainland Greek shift. Since genetics is underdeveloped in Greece most results are provided by "barbarians" ;) It is my personal opinion(and only that, so I may well be wrong) that there's a big agenda towards Greeks. Your results are illuminating in that they are both very Mainland Greek shifted and at the same time show a Steppe affinity that is supposed to have been mostly introduced to Greeks through Slavic invasions. I have my strong doubts about that and am long in search of Asia Minor, and other non-core Greek areas' results to investigate that.

Be prepared to here stories how a "Slavic-influenced Mainlander Greek village" decided to migrate to your Pontic Greek villages and influence your results. If you have any questions I'm very happy to answer.

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Ok lets put things in historical perspective. Peloponnesian Greeks were essentially Mycenean like until the 6th century when Slavs entered the Western Peloponnese without any notable contention from the Anatolian Byzantines who ruled the Eastern Peloponnese. From the 6th century on there was an intermittent influx of Albanians, Slavs, Bulgars, Avars, Franks, Venetians, etc. So if we try to analyze Greek mainlanders we must consider these various historical influences.

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Originally Posted by Markos

A true Greek. Welcome file

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So are you suggesting that us mainland Greeks are mixed Greek/Albanian/Slavs mutts because if you are I'm ok with that.