Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

Spaniard 2.0, veamos si mi madre te gana a British, a ver tus distancias con esto, sobre todo la distancia al componente Irish:

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British_Islands:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0.0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
British_Islands:English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0.1397525,0.0613546,0.0431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0.0034346,0.0063902,0.0064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0.0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
British_Islands:Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0601319,0.0430236,0.0405922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.006392,0.0062789,0.0043372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0.0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083
British_Islands:Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312,0.0622654,0.0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0.0051756,0.0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246,0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698
British_Islands:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745,0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665

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Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.8732% / 0.05873203
100.0 British_Islands

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.05873203 British_Islands:English_Cornwall
0.06039142 British_Islands:Welsh
0.06111760 British_Islands:English
0.06548239 British_Islands:Scottish
0.06772616 British_Islands:Irish


Creo que uno de los portugueses de aquí podría tener mejores distancias que cualquiera de los dos.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Me acuerdo de otro mapa épico, uno que posteó Septentrión para demostrar la blanquitud de los belgas, y justo , en el mapa que puso para demostrarlo, los belgas tenían el mismo color que los españoles.

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Pues yo tengo un mapa que le dio muchos dolores de cabeza al belga del Norte de Europa, se los comparto:

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/Europemix2.png

Al parecer Los Tercios eran bastante atractivos para los wallones y los franceses del norte.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Pues yo tengo un mapa que le dio muchos dolores de cabeza al belga del Norte de Europa, se los comparto:

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/Europemix2.png

Al parecer Los Tercios eran bastante atractivos para los wallones y los franceses del norte.

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El mapa de Nurzat que usé yo para un calculador basado en componentes de un calculador gedmatch (que puse que eran del k13 y debian ser de otro :picard1:), tenían una proporción de un componente sudeuropeo sospechosamente alta también , sospechosamente alto comparado con sus vecinos franceses de la misma latitud.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by gixajo

El mapa de Nurzat que usé yo para un calculador basado en componentes de un calculador gedmatch (que puse que eran del k13 y debian ser de otro :picard1:), tenían una proporción de un componente sudeuropeo sospechosamente alta también , sospechosamente alto comparado con sus vecinos franceses de la misma latitud.:rolleyes:

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Al parecer el marcador DF27 es sobretodo en el Norte de Francia y algo en la belga francesa, por lo que pude averiguar (dado que mi clado favorito del R1b es el DF27), asi que solo usaba ese preciso mapita para tocarle los cojones al belga, no por otra razon, ya se lo merecia la verdad.

Igualmente ya hemos podido ver que la coorelacion con los haplogrupos y el autosomal es algo que se tiene que ver con mucho cuidado, porque por ejemplo en Venezuela hay una distribucion de haplogrupos muy parecida a la de España, ya que eran los barones blancos los que tenian unico derecho a hacer los que le diera la gana, y de los barones negros uno que otro pudo perdurar. Se parecen autosomalmente? No, obviamente, pero hay gente que le toca la fibra lo del haplogrupo de una manera...

Que por cierto, pienso hacer un thread sobre distribucion de linajes paternos y maternos de Venezuela, por si a algunos le interesa.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Spaniard 2.0, veamos si mi madre te gana a British, a ver tus distancias con esto, sobre todo la distancia al componente Irish:

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British_Islands:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0.0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
British_Islands:English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0.1397525,0.0613546,0.0431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0.0034346,0.0063902,0.0064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0.0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
British_Islands:Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0601319,0.0430236,0.0405922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.006392,0.0062789,0.0043372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0.0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083
British_Islands:Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312,0.0622654,0.0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0.0051756,0.0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246,0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698
British_Islands:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745,0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665

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Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.8732% / 0.05873203
100.0 British_Islands

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.05873203 British_Islands:English_Cornwall
0.06039142 British_Islands:Welsh
0.06111760 British_Islands:English
0.06548239 British_Islands:Scottish
0.06772616 British_Islands:Irish


Creo que uno de los portugueses de aquí podría tener mejores distancias que cualquiera de los dos.

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Luego miro

Xabi es de pocas palabras, es muy autentico de esa manera. Supongo que son modalidades mas dignas de alguien del Norte no? No se porque extrañarme.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Que por cierto, pienso hacer un thread sobre distribucion de linajes paternos y maternos de Venezuela, por si a algunos le interesa.

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Por cierto, un amigo de la cuadrilla de Vitoria, nació en Venezuela ( de abuelos y padres españoles), parte de su familia sigue allí. Sus padres volvieron a España cuando el tenía 6 años.Sus abuelos se fueron a venezuela cuando acabó la guerra civil.

Algún año vino un primo suyo a pasar las vacaciones de verano a España, el primo es médico y se fue a vivir a Miami.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Por cierto, un amigo de la cuadrilla de Vitoria, nació en Venezuela ( de abuelos y padres españoles), parte de su familia sigue allí. Sus padres volvieron a España cuando el tenía 6 años.Sus abuelos se fueron a venezuela cuando acabó la guerra civil.

Algún año vino un primo suyo a pasar las vacaciones de verano a España, el primo es médico y se fue a vivir a Miami.

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Pues mira, que interesante! Sabia que habia de todo alla, pero yo el 100% de los vascos que conoci eran todos vizcainos, ya sea de Gran Bilbao o de pueblos aledaños, todos muy exitosos, la gente del pueblo vasco siempre ha sido extraordinaria. Estoy orgulloso de decir que comparto mucho con el pueblo vasco.

Una pregunta... Si te digo el apellido por Rep. y la pego, tu me dirias que seria ese? Porque coincide con una familia vasca que no se exactamente si eran bilbainos y podrian ser alaveses, eran bastante nacionalistas españoles (cosa rarisima en los vascos alla).

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Pues yo tengo un mapa que le dio muchos dolores de cabeza al belga del Norte de Europa, se los comparto:

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/Europemix2.png

Al parecer Los Tercios eran bastante atractivos para los wallones y los franceses del norte.

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Ah de haplogrupos, que bonito! Recuerdo en los principios cuando la gente se pasó más de 10 años hablando sólo de su haplogrupo, xd

Dicen que el haplogrupo representa tan sólo el 2% de nuestro genoma y que sólo está hablando de uno de nuestros antepasados, será verdad. Entonces si eso fuese verdad te puedes encontrar un indígena en taparrabo con un haplogrupo de una fundación que está a miles de km y viceversa, será eso verdad?