Possible. But i wonder then how Croats are using that, they weren't in close contact with Albanians during the history. Rethel said that this word also exists in Poland, in some region, so i think at least Polish "vatra" have nothimg to do with Albanian "vater" ? Or am i wrong?
Of course Croats were in contact with Albanians. Until Lustica Peninsula was called Albania.
12-23-2017, 10:17 AM
Laberia
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Originally Posted by Mingle
Rethel said it is believed to have come from Romanian.
So it would be like this: Albanian -> Romanian -> Podhale Polish
Croats may not have had much contact with Albanians but Serbs did.
Btw, the word vatra in Eastern European languages is said to be from Iranic. There are IE cognates to vatra that existed in Old Irish and Armenian as well that are not from Iranic. But the ones used in Eastern European languages came from Iranic.
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Wew, this really traumatic for Novi Pazar. Mr. Sarbani, what is this theory?
12-23-2017, 10:18 AM
Vlatko Vukovic
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Originally Posted by Laberia
Of course Croats were in contact with Albanians. Until Lustica Peninsula was called Albania.
However, i don't think this slight contact is enough for Albanian influence toward Croatian language.
12-23-2017, 10:33 AM
Laberia
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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
However, i don't think this slight contact is enough for Albanian influence toward Croatian language.
There were many contacts. For example, during the middle age Albanians called all the Slavic people around, Bulgars, servs, Bosnians, etc, Harvats. And if i am not wrong this is the old name of the Croats.
12-23-2017, 10:37 AM
Bosniensis
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Originally Posted by Laberia
There were many contacts. For example, during the middle age Albanians called all the Slavic people around, Bulgars, servs, Bosnians, etc, Harvats. And if i am not wrong this is the old name of the Croats.
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever...
BTW How could you remember the name for Slavs, if there is no trace of Albanians in Early Middle ages like from 7-10 century...
12-23-2017, 10:37 AM
Vlatko Vukovic
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Originally Posted by Laberia
There were many contacts. For example, during the middle age Albanians called all the Slavic people around, Bulgars, servs, Bosnians, etc, Harvats. And if i am not wrong this is the old name of the Croats.
There was contacts, but i think these slight contacts are not enough to influence other language.
Hrvat, is actually still modern term. That's how actually they are calling themselfs.
Old name could be "Horvath", something like that, if you mean this.
12-23-2017, 11:01 AM
Laberia
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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic
There was contacts, but i think these slight contacts are not enough to influence other language.
Hrvat, is actually still modern term. That's how actually they are calling themselfs.
Old name could be "Horvath", something like that, if you mean this.
Influences were reciprocal. Albanian also has borrowed from slavic languages.
About Harvats, this is something that someone of the Croat members can explain better.