German GEDmatch results

@Peterski^^^^you don't need to explain who is fully Frisian, we have that kit already.

Your total lack of fair play, unwillingness to share data you have for whole community (except for fat counter favors), your intentional releasing of promised samples immediately AFTER we release the averages (and knowing it will be unnecessary hard to upgrade samples now) shows your intentions which are everything but fair.

Not to mention you got kit numbers from rothaer days ago but did not share what you have at all. And you don't need to. You lied to do what you did not, and do not pretend to be benevolent.

You won't be begged for samples especially considering rothaer gave many of them to you years ago, we'll get them anyway. And don't expect any more samples and information coming your way, because it won't.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

This is why we have a function called "email", and we can email people from GEDmatch and ask them questions.

I emailed T381963 (long ago) and I got a response that T381963 is only half Frisian, but T802916 is fully Frisian:

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This is exactly why I don't use samples (f. i. T381963) that I can not judge.

And the kit # T802916 is what we have for Frisian already, as the results unveil to you.

"You won't be begged for samples especially considering rothaer gave many of them to you years ago"

First I gave him all of German data that I had at that time. It seems you like to have selective memory.

And this fully North Frisian sample's results I showed to Rothaer already in my email from 29 Apr 2020.

"unwillingness to share data you have"

I don't collect K13 data. And GEDmatch K13 stopped working after Christmas, and still doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

"You won't be begged for samples especially considering rothaer gave many of them to you years ago"

First I gave him all of German data that I had at that time. It seems you like to have selective memory.

And this fully North Frisian sample's results I showed to Rothaer already in my email from 29 Apr 2020.

"unwillingness to share data you have"

I don't collect K13 data.

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Don't play innocent, please. We are also not collecting only K13, this was just a start. Future goals include making of averages for other calculators, especially K36 and some others.
That's why kit numbers are inherently more valuable to share than naked K13 data.

People posting here know what you are like anyway. I conclude this topic now though.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Not to mention you got kit numbers from rothaer days ago but did not share what you have at all.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

That's why kit numbers are inherently more valuable to share than naked K13 data.

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You actually did not want to exchange kit numbers, here is your rep comment:

https://i.imgur.com/EdWpLtm.png

I got kit numbers from Rothaer because he asked me to check how they compare to my K36 averages.

And Rothaer did not know about your mean and unpleasant reputation comment.

Me and Rothaer always (since year 2017) exchange also kit numbers, there is no problem with that...

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

You actually did not want to exchange kit numbers, here is your rep comment:

https://i.imgur.com/EdWpLtm.png

I got kit numbers from Rothaer because he asked me to check how they compare to my K36 averages.

And Rothaer did not know about your mean and unpleasant reputation comment.

Me and Rothaer always exchange also kit numbers, there is no problem with that.

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Yes, I don't have kit numbers but if I had I would not share them with you. Because it was not given to me and I am not authorized to share private information like that. Rothaer has the kit numbers, I deal with admixture values. And he shared with you west Prussian kit numbers, after which your DID NOT do the same, but you released just K13 values (of long promised samples) intentionally 10 minutes after averages were out.

I know you well, and I would not share anything with you even if I could, because I consider you to be in mala fides (bad faith). Plenty of past and present evidence to hold such views.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

And he shared with you west Prussian kit numbers, after which your DID NOT do the same, but you released just K13 values

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To be honest, for Brieg Germans and Braunsberg German I have also raw data files, not only kit numbers.

And I checked their K13 values offline, from raw data files. GEDmatch does not work properly recently.

You keep bashing me that I did not check K13 values on 27-28 December when GEDmatch still worked, but I was busy with other things.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

To be honest, for Brieg Germans and Braunsberg German I have also raw data files, not only kit numbers.

And I checked their K13 values offline, from raw data files. GEDmatch does not work properly recently.

You keep bashing me that I did not check K13 values on 27-28 December when GEDmatch still worked, but I was busy with other things.

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Interesting how you were not busy anymore on new year day 10 minutes after samples were out, and than magically you decide to share K13 values of these few samples. Interesting timing, as always.

Dec 27

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

Who is collecting them?

BTW, German user Simon_W from AG has a grandmother with 4/4 grandparents from East Prussia (precisely - Kreis Braunsberg / Braniewo County), and she scores similar as Rothaer's wife (who is from Schwerin area - Western Mecklenburg). Around 2/3 proto Germanic + 1/3 Balto-Slavic.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Rothaer and me.

Post her K13 please. I don't think we have her.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

Her, it is grandmother of Simon_W.

I will post it later today (afternoon).

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Than rothaer sent him several west Prussian kits he asked for, immediately and with kit numbers.

Dec 27

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

From which counties / Kreise of West Prussia and Upper Silesia?

Okay, I will post.

Now I'm on my phone, I will be back home later today.

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two days after, Dec 29

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Where are your promised samples? Not the first time you don't keep your word.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

GEDmatch stopped working, when I try to check kits in calculators, I get:

"AJAX error: Internal Server ErrorText Status: error Response Text: An internal server error occurred. Please try again later."

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

You promised to post two days ago, and gedmatch worked perfectly than.

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Originally Posted by rothaer

Why don't you just tell Stearsolina the GEDmatch number(s)?

You got the 4 new ones from me gladly, immediately and without any begging.

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Of course he did not share any data on Dec 28, Dec 29, Dec 30 and Dec 31 either. No, he shared it yesterday (without kit numbers), minutes after we released German averages.

No more dealing with him. Amen.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Interesting timing

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^^^ If you like conspiracy theories...