K36 calculator

Hi
I am pleasantly surprised.
Slovak
Distance to: kruzek-k36admix Marques Euro Admixture studio 4.5.2022
7.89824664 Ukrainian_Lviv
7.91221208 Slovak_2
8.22473708 Carpathian_Rusyns
8.95318379 Czech_Moravia
9.24611270 Slovak
9.33637510 Polish_South
9.84832473 Czech_Bohemia
9.86471997 Slovenian
9.87253767 Polish_Upper_Silesia
9.98700155 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
10.20061763 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
10.42395798 Polish
10.54092026 Czech
10.66962511 Croatian
10.70134104 Ukrainian
10.91952838 Polish_SE_Carpathia
11.03967844 Austrian_Carinthia
11.07987365 Hungarian
11.41265088 Polish_Wielkopolska
11.52350207 Ukrainian_Zhitomir
11.75144672 Polish_2
12.21887884 Upper_Silesia
12.46427294 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
12.51115502 Moldova_North
12.63271942 Ukrainian_Sumi

and then
Target: kruzek-k36admix
Distance: 673.8081% / 6.73808133 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.8 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
13.2 German_Thuringia_Central
6.2 Austrian_Styria
6.2 Ukrainian_Cossack
5.2 Irish_Ulster

Ok nice to day

I'm pondering if the Dutch have a pseudo and/or real Insular Celtic ancestry. I'm using Germans without Baltic admixture from extreme Northwest and Southwest.

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German_Lower_Saxony_North,0,0,0,1.90,0,8.72,0,0,1.66,0,7.45,0,5.10,13.07,7.43,6.36,0,5.08,0,0,0,16.28,1.99,23.17,0,0,0,0,0,0.05,0.79,0,0.28,0,0,0.66
German_Saarland,0,0.53,0.12,1.48,0,7.28,0,0,4.14,0,4.59,1.55,4.73,5.76,5.81,13.65,0,17.56,0,0.16,0,13.23,0.52,14.72,0,0,0,0,0,0.06,0,0,0,0,0.17,3.94
Irish,0.11,0.01,0.06,2.82,0.00,6.38,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,6.60,0.01,4.75,7.79,7.82,14.54,0.00,4.73,0.00,0.00,0.00,19.54,2.03,19.67,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.05,0.62,0.00,0.60,0.00,0.21,0.30

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Target: Dutch
Distance: 213.7237% / 2.13723679
56.6 German_Lower_Saxony_North
25.2 German_Saarland
18.2 Irish

Target: Dutch_Central
Distance: 238.3479% / 2.38347874
59.6 German_Lower_Saxony_North
25.0 German_Saarland
15.4 Irish

Target: Dutch_North
Distance: 294.6671% / 2.94667093
78.0 German_Lower_Saxony_North
19.6 Irish
2.4 German_Saarland

Target: Dutch_South
Distance: 352.5496% / 3.52549648
46.4 German_Saarland
32.8 German_Lower_Saxony_North
20.8 Irish

Target: Flemish
Distance: 295.6671% / 2.95667140
65.8 German_Saarland
29.0 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.2 Irish


In the case of the Flemish the Insular Celtic input (real or pseudo) is insignificant and can be discarded, but for the rest it is somewhat remarkable. It may fully or partially come from the Nordwestblock who were one more Indo-European ethnicity with a driftless genotype (alongside with Germanics, Celts and Indo-Iranians).

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Idk why but Dutch seem mentally closer to English than Germans despite being ethnically (and geographically) closer to Germans.

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Maybe because they almost fully overlap genetically?

https://i.imgur.com/EMH0362.jpg

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Interesting

Target: cpal
Distance: 378.5511% / 3.78551100
35.2 Austrian_Burgenland
22.0 Ukrainian_Cossack
12.8 German_Saarland
12.6 Spanish_Valencia
9.8 Cornish
5.6 German_Bavaria_proper
2.0 Finnish_Northeast

Target: cpal
Distance: 437.9023% / 4.37902309 | R3P
70.2 Austrian_Burgenland
16.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
13.4 Spanish_Valencia

Distance to: cpal
6.28378071 Austrian_Burgenland
6.98063751 German_North_Bohemia
8.06444666 German_Thuringia_Central
9.55435503 German_Bavaria_proper
9.96431132 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
10.63534203 German_Hesse_South
10.78459086 German_Bavarian_Swabia
10.89391573 French_East
11.22138583 German_County_Glatz
11.22235715 German_South
11.25807710 German
11.39895171 Austrian_Styria
11.40596774 German_West_Bohemia
11.42881884 Afrikaner
11.44377123 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
11.56710422 Swiss_German
11.86521808 French_Normandy
12.01177755 German_Baden-Württemberg
12.02841220 French_Hauts-de-France
12.27432279 Hungarian
12.48482679 German_Saxony
12.48608425 Austrian_Carinthia
12.51226998 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
12.72088440 Slovenian
12.75488534 French_Northeast


Sister:

Target: cpalsis
Distance: 696.7864% / 6.96786421
59.8 Cornish
15.8 North_Macedonian
11.6 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
7.8 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
3.0 Ukrainian_Cossack
1.2 Chuvash
0.8 Pashtun_Kurram

Target: cpalsis
Distance: 707.8559% / 7.07855905 | R3P
60.8 Cornish
19.8 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
19.4 North_Macedonian

Distance to: cpalsis
10.33006292 Afrikaner
10.33177139 Dutch_South
10.52739284 German
10.53621374 Austrian_Burgenland
10.62993885 English_Northeast
10.72354419 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
10.77805177 French_Hauts-de-France
10.79781922 English_East-Midlands
10.90540233 Flemish
10.91136105 Cornish
10.97295767 German_South
11.02531632 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
11.41700924 French_Normandy
11.48740180 English_West-Midlands
11.56092557 German_Saarland
11.70508009 English
11.84819818 German_Hesse_South
11.86445110 Scottish
11.86991575 German_Baden-Württemberg
11.92990360 English_East
11.96498224 English_Lancashire
12.03222340 German_Bavaria_proper
12.05817980 Scottish_Orkney
12.07768604 English_Southeast
12.08297976 Walloon

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Originally Posted by Russki

I'm pondering if the Dutch have a pseudo and/or real Insular Celtic ancestry. I'm using Germans without Baltic admixture from extreme Northwest and Southwest.
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I noted the same some time ago and this is also what till this very day made it impossible to expand the usage of the G25 Feiichy ancient Slavic calculator to Northern France and the British Isles. Now all Insular Celtic gets assigned Germanic and this is historically fine for Dutch and Frisians but not for Northern French and British Isles folks. On the other hand, introducing an Insular Celtic reference, makes it encroach on the (historically real) Germanic. Admittedly, I now speak about G25 that has less distinguishing ability than has K36 in this topic, but your results do go in the same direction.

Is it real or pseudo?

I guess it's simply an old commonality. Consider the article on the 90% replacement of the British Isles autosomal genepool when the Bell Beakers came to there (at abt. 2350 BCE). These Bell Beakers were expressly said to be genetically identical with the Bell Beakers from the Lower Rhine area. To my conviction this explains the genetic notable overlap and the much later questions who was historically Celtic, Germanic, "Nordwestblock" or whatever is secondary, not to say irrelevant in this context. It's the population continueity, regardless of what culture or language they later carried or shifted.

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Originally Posted by Creoda

Try it:
https://pastebin.com/6tM7n6n5

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Is it being updated?

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Originally Posted by Abriekman

Is it being updated?

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Not recently, but I can if someone has something to add.

Red and black i dress eagle on my chest?

Distance: 557.4735% / 5.57473488
29.6 Ukrainian_Zhitomir
26.6 Albanian_North_Macedonia
20.6 Albanian_Kosovo
6.0 Bulgarian_2
4.6 Gagauz
3.8 Darginian
3.2 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
2.4 Druze
1.8 Sardinian
1.4 Spanish_Aragon

Target: Eurafricanid_K36
Distance: 5.8819% / 5.88191418
41.1 Mende_Sierra_Leone
39.3 Spanish_Cantabria
11.7 Italian_Lazio
2.8 Esan_Nigeria
2.0 Sardinian
1.3 Karitiana
1.0 Masai
0.8 Italian_Tuscany


It's a significanty less Amerindian and more European than expected, but it looks pretty ok :thumb001:.

Euro Isolated, the mixed mode looks kinda similar to G25, but the single distance is a bit different.

Target: Eurafricanid-EU_K36
Distance: 12.3054% / 12.30541358
76.7 Spanish_Cantabria
17.9 Italian_Lazio
4.6 Sardinian
0.8 Italian_Tuscany


Distance to: Eurafricanid-EU_K36
13.82325577 Spanish_Valencia
13.93525027 Spanish_Cantabria
14.29892304 Spanish_Castello
14.46448409 Spanish_Andalusia
14.78137680 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
14.94525343 Spanish_Valencia
15.34017275 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
15.88221647 Spanish
16.12984191 Spanish_Aragon
16.14717622 Spanish_Eivissa
16.27197284 Portuguese
16.55314472 Spanish_Galicia
16.70757313 Spanish_Barcelones
16.73822870 Spanish_Mallorca
16.91530077 Spanish_Lleida
17.01354754 Spanish_Pirineu
17.50796961 Spanish_Penedes
17.68579939 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
17.75219141 Spanish_Alacant
17.79023328 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
18.52593317 Portuguese_Azores
18.60587004 Spanish_Girona
18.81537403 Spanish_Baleares
19.72972377 Spanish_Canarias
21.83902928 French_Corsican

2way Euro:

12.42586 Eurafricanid-EU_K36 = 78.82% Spanish_Cantabria + 21.18% Italian_Lazio
12.52128 Eurafricanid-EU_K36 = 74.53% Spanish_Cantabria + 25.47% French_Corsican
12.52606 Eurafricanid-EU_K36 = 77.99% Spanish_Cantabria + 22.01% Italian_Tuscany
12.86944 Eurafricanid-EU_K36 = 85.64% Spanish_Cantabria + 14.36% Italian_Campania
12.98738 Eurafricanid-EU_K36 = 86.48% Spanish_Cantabria + 13.52% Italian_Apulia
13.04567 Eurafricanid-EU_K36 = 79.54% Spanish_Cantabria + 20.46% Swiss_Italian


2way Full:

7.07735 Eurafricanid_K36 = 55.07% Spanish_Valencia + 44.93% Mende_Sierra_Leone
7.22473 Eurafricanid_K36 = 55.62% Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre + 44.38% Mende_Sierra_Leone
7.26835 Eurafricanid_K36 = 55.25% Spanish_Andalusia + 44.75% Mende_Sierra_Leone
7.38907 Eurafricanid_K36 = 55.53% Spanish_Valencia + 44.47% Mende_Sierra_Leone
7.44232 Eurafricanid_K36 = 54.83% Spanish_Castello + 45.17% Mende_Sierra_Leone
7.49783 Eurafricanid_K36 = 54.31% Spanish_Cantabria + 45.69% Mende_Sierra_Leone