all-in who is kurdish has even more. then ancient greeks should look like Kurds by your logic. don't be biased broQuote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
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all-in who is kurdish has even more. then ancient greeks should look like Kurds by your logic. don't be biased broQuote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
Come on, we are running over this exactly same discussion every now and then. It's getting boring to be honest.
"Fictional period"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
Since when does Rethel follow autosomal? This is historic event. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
Both male and female lineage of Motala are not IE, and even going by autosomal, they are still 80%+ native western HGs. Besides, I already explained why autosomal "admixture charts", especially comparisons of modern population with ancient DNA, are (atleast for now) meaningless and inaccurate.
C1 was not in Europe before I. There were some C1 samples found in Palaeolithic Europe indeed, but so were I-M170 found in same age. It is clear to anyone with brain that C1 is not native, since it can be literally found over half of globe, heck, even in Australian Aborigines, while I-M170 is out of all haplogroups obviously the one most connected to Europe, with percentages outside of it being very weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
Plus, Cro-Magnon lithic industry is merely a small refinement of Neanderthal Levallois one. Many anthropologists as well, such as Milford Wolpoff, spoken in favor of continuity in Europe.
Yes, proto-IE did live in eastern Europe, but starting from Late Mesolithic/Neolithic. R1 originates in Asia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
Note that I am not saying they are not European racially. IE are perfectly Europoid/Caucasoid in racial sense. Their ancestors just didn't always live in Europe, that's all.
You guys need to take those autosomals & matching segments with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by mongrel
All of this is autism, to me only haplogroups matter and I stand by my word.
i dont take seriously it's just to satisfy curiosity. for reliable results we would need full genome sequencingQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Boss
They are accurate as fuck, man. You just turned out Tosk, homie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Boss
Becasue you do not know what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmoo
Exactly. 50.000 years from nowhere.Quote:
"Fictional period"...
Since always, when it is use there, when it should be. I do not said,Quote:
Since when does Rethel follow autosomal? This is historic event. xD
that they were IEs, BUT that they had IE au admix. It suggest, that
if Motalans were in contact with IEs, then they cannot be taken as
racial pattern, and that IEs had to be somewhere around.
I didn't see it.Quote:
I already explained why autosomal "admixture charts", especially comparisons of modern population with ancient DNA, are (atleast for now) meaningless and inaccurate.
But in european context it is about two characteristic clades.Quote:
C1 was not in Europe before I. There were some C1 samples found in Palaeolithic Europe indeed, but so were I-M170 found in same age. It is clear to anyone with brain that C1 is not native, since it can be literally found over half of globe, heck, even in Australian Aborigines,
Today, where majority of it comes from 2-3 guys whoQuote:
while I-M170 is out of all haplogroups obviously the one most connected to Europe, with percentages outside of it being very weak.
were lucky to not be slaughtered during R1-honfoglalás.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd13tpMUUAAFFJR.jpgQuote:
Plus, Cro-Magnon lithic industry is merely a small refinement of Neanderthal Levallois one. Many anthropologists as well, such as Milford Wolpoff, spoken in favor of continuity in Europe.
It is not known, but considering the fact, that everythingQuote:
Yes, proto-IE did live in eastern Europe, but starting from Late Mesolithic/Neolithic.
before Bronze Age is couple of hundrets of years, they
were there since the beginning. Wrong fictional datations
are not mine problem, but even if they first came from
Syberia, it is not problem, becasue we are a tribe, not
poteotes who definy theselves by place of growing.
Yes, as all haplogroups. The I too.Quote:
R1 originates in Asia.
Ok. This is everything what I want :)Quote:
Note that I am not saying they are not European racially. IE are perfectly Europoid/Caucasoid in racial sense. Their ancestors just didn't always live in Europe, that's all.
But considering the fact, how many R1 are found allready in the eastern Europe
it would be very strange of they would not be locals. Irkutsk seems to be just a
far outpost of some hunters, just like Villabruna and Malataverne. These could be
just lost hunters on the trek after their prey.
You're more Tosk % though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Pasha Tepelena
It's enough with this shit, you are highlighting this like fuck lately.
Dude, youre not Ilyrian.
Funny how me and Ylla got the highest out of everyone. First it didnt work for me, but when i used 40cm it started working so you started complaining that i used only 40. So had it up to 50 to shut your Tosk ass up. And I got more than you there too lol... now youre claiming its bullshit.
When i got highest steppe on k36 than you all bitches you started saying its bullshit there too. Hhahahahaha hahaha hahahaha
Dude, youre jealous im more Gheg and Northern. I even get more northern Albania than you and Montenegro, Kosovo.
Yeah good, happy now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Pasha Tepelena
Why is that funny? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Pasha Tepelena