VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

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Originally Posted by Porn Master

Vlatko Vukovic are you buddist? xD

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Yes bro.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

My paternal line is probably from Montenegro (Y-DNA will confirm or refute it), but why is that important for genetics?

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I probably have some signifigant ancestry from there, due to my results being very southern for serbs from croatia

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Originally Posted by Leto

Bro, I have no anti-Albanian sentiments, I simply judge by the opinions of Albanian nationalists in this forum. I mean people say "well, you're Albanian which means Muslim" and that freaks some Albanians out, so they turn against Christian Europeans and start defending Islam. They can practice whatever they want in Albania or Kosovo, but I hate it when pro-Islamic people (not necessarily Albanians) try to tell us that Islam is just as European as Christianity or that "we used to be violent too".

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I know you don't but you can't come to such a conclusion based on forum members. Albanians are just trying to defend themselves when people try and accuse them of something just because of religion. I don't think religions today can belong to any group such as "European". Albanians are known for being one of the most religious tolerant people and that we have no care for what religion a person belongs to

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

I know you don't but you can't come to such a conclusion based on forum members. Albanians are just trying to defend themselves when people try and accuse them of something just because of religion. I don't think religions today can belong to any group such as "European". Albanians are known for being one of the most religious tolerant people and that we have no care for what religion a person belongs to

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Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.

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Our muslim names in Bosnia are usually unique. They're from Arab or Persian origin but still unique. Ahmed, Muhammed is not very usual name here. Most of our names doesn't exist in Arabia or even Turkey. :)

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.

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Albanians though don't have those beards and especially don't assume an Islamic identitiy, a muslim Albanian is just as culturally Albanian as a christian Albanian.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.

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It seems you haven't met much Albanians. Those i've seen (muslims) were far from being religious.

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Originally Posted by *****

There is nothing to congratulate me.
I am not a Croat, I am just passionate about history and genetics.
Also there is no pan-slavism and what bounds most of the modern Slavs today is the language only.
The pan-slavism was favoured in the past, but not anymore, there are simply too many differences between us.
My involvement in this discussion was because of your exaggerated influence of Turkics on Slavs.
In fact, the Turkics had much more contact with Germanics than Slavs.

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I am Balkanite and i have relation with East Slavs. Your theory falls down.

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Originally Posted by RN97

You are western, central Europeans. Ask Stears ;)

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Albania was never Catholic state, it had more orthodox belivers before Ottomans arrived and it was in Byzantine sphere of influence.

Wrong parallel.

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Originally Posted by *****

That's simply not true.
I don't know why you are trying to push this agenda but that's not true.
Slovenes, Croats and Bosniaks are definitely more Slavic.
Even Serbs, I've seen many results of them and most of them are under fifty percent "South Eastern Europe" on FTDNA's MyOrigins.
Also you plot closer to Moldavians and you are rather closer to Ukrainians than to Greeks.

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Serbs are usually (not at all) North-West influenced. I am North East, Balto-Slavica area.