Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

Clearly they do, as they would not score BALKAN if they were disconnected since 600 AD. Also, I get matches from many different islands, so you don't know what you're talking about. Chios has even more west Asian than Dodecanese, but at same time score low Italian compared to Dodecanese. It's pretty clear to me ITALIAN score on 23andme/AncestryDNA is related to J2, while BALKAN score on 23andme is related to E-V13, as I see this pattern in all my matches. Now I do not understand why you can't understand how admixture can change in 1400 years, but if you believe that nothing has changed, I will just have to wait for ancient samples from correct time periods to shut you up.

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What you believe is completely useless, as 23andme measures AUTOSOMAL dna not y haplogroups and once more, until you post historical evidence that most of Greek islands like naxos or lesvos or samothraki are balkan because of the last 1500-500 years and not because of less levantine admixtyre in antiquity you are CLUELESS

Yes j2 is related to "Italian" because as you probably know Sicily was a major colony of phoenecians in antiquity, and the more east you go to the island (which was colonized by Greeks ) the less dodecanese and levantine admixture you get and the more mainland admixture you get. On the contrary Palermo area which was completely phoenecian and didn't a single Greek colony scores identical to Rhodes.

Till you PROVE, with historical SOURCES the opposite, shut up

And once again idiot, nobody here denied Slavic and other admixture in mainland, but rather only you deny extra levantine admixture in Rhodes

Only the West of Sicily was colonized by Phoenicians

All Sicilians have Ancient Greek ancestry but in East Sicily they don't have Phoenician

EV13 exists in Sicily too

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

And once again idiot, nobody here denied Slavic and other admixture in mainland, but rather only you deny extra levantine admixture in Rhodes

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The thing is Slavic admixture and influence is overestimated as fuck and unlike what people claim there has never been a Slavic invasion in all of Mainland Greece only some Slavic tribes like Bulgarians and Serbs who were disorganized and both culturally as also militarily far inferior to Byzantine Greeks tried and invaded or raided some territories in Northern Greece.

And there was not such a thing as extinction or a massive foreign intrusion into Mainland Greece wether one is talking about Slavs proper,
South Slavs or Allbos its all fairytales and propaganda

Nationalism at its finest.

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Nationalism at its finest.

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No problem,According to Myheritage,That pontic greek is %100 Greek

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Originally Posted by Reis-i Cumhur

No problem,According to Myheritage,That pontic greek is %100 Greek

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Straight from the balls of Pericles

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Straight from the balls of Pericles

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And you are straight from the balls of Edi Rama

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Originally Posted by -Scar-

In my opinion most of that 35% comes from Slavs I could be wrong. Simple as that.

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If in your opinion all of 35% in Mainland Greeks which is not from Mycanaeans is from Medieval Slavs you are
a Mega Idiot in my opinion

One hypothesis is that prior to the Slavic invasions the populations of Crete and the other islands were much more similar to those of the mainland, since those invasions would have had more of an effect on the mainland. I think that's logical and supported by the evidence.

On the other hand, there were other migrations which might have differentially affected the mainland, such as the Goths or even any northern shifted "steppe" group. Then, the islands, being closer to Anatolia, might have a bit more of that ancestry, although mitigating against that is the fact that there has been constant and continuing contacts between the islands and many parts of the mainland.

So, I'm waiting for the ancient DNA.

If you haven't already, you might want to take a look at the thread on the recent paper on Greek genetics. Just use the search engine to find it.