Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.3740% / 0.02374017
35.4 Continental_Germanic
34.0 DeepAncientIberia
14.2 Canary_Islands_Guanche
12.8 Latin
3.6 Continental_Celtic

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

Del James Bond añadiéndole la referencia norteafricana canaria, creo que sale bastante bien.

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Insular_Celtic,0.1263435,0.129988,0.0607165,0.0644385,0.0296975,0.022172,0.0019975,0.006,0.002761,-0.0058315,-0.00138,0.0086925,-0.009737,-0.0165835,0.0229365,0.0146515,-0.003716,0.006968,0.0011315,0.0049395,0.006613,0.00643,0.00228,0.0110255,-0.0029335
Continental_Celtic,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Insular_Germanic,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.059432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.00037,0.019521,0.002036
Latin,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Continental_Germanic,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019,0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224

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Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.1421% / 0.04142144
62.4 Continental_Celtic
22.6 Latin
14.8 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.2 Continental_Germanic

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Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 3.0030% / 0.03002986
63.6 Continental_Celtic
19.6 Latin
16.8 Canary_Islands_Guanche

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Y añadir una cosa, evidentemente si usas calculadoras modernas, te van a sacar mas "NA" porque ya ellos tienen un buen pedazo de EEF en su genetica, y haciendo una especie de matematica en las calculadoras, de va a duplicar o triplicar los resultados que te salgan en la calculadora clasica EEF/WHG/WSH, no tiene sentido, es simplemente solapamiento en componentes modernos, como cuando te sale irlandes, aleman, italiano, etc.

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La referencia vasca me duplica el norteafricano.

Con Basque:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6659% / 0.02665938
38.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
26.2 Basque_French
25.0 Italian_Lombardy
10.0 Moroccan_North

Sin Basque:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.7390% / 0.02739006
78.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
17.0 Italian_Lombardy
5.0 Moroccan_North

Supongo que con las muestras celtíberas ocurrirá más de lo mismo, creo que mejor no usarlas.

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.3510% / 0.02351017
43.6 Continental_Celtic
20.2 Canary_Islands_Guanche
18.6 Continental_Germanic
17.6 Latin

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Originally Posted by gixajo

No creo que puedas hacerlos coincidir todos. Como mucho puedes sacar una media de todos tus resultados.Todos nos fijamos mas o menos que sacamos en cada componente, fijate en los numeros mas altos, en los mas bajos, en la frecuencia de unos y otros, y hazte una idea de por donde anda ese componente. pAso de recopilar datos para hacer estadísticas, pero de los ibéricos que andamos por aquí, la desviación típica "bruta" no creo que llegue al 3%. respecto a una media menos de 6% de componentes no europeos.osea que nos movemos en un intervalo aproximado de (91,97) para una media de alrededor del 94%.

Y eso podemos determinarlo bien tanto portugueses como españoles, porque somos los que más exponemos nuestros resultados en cualquier modelo aquí, cosa que no hacen personas de otras zonas europeas , que o falsean resultados, quitan referencias, borran distancias o ponen lo que les interesa y no les están continuamente poniendo modelos con componentes "sensibles" para ellos.

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Habría que hacer una lista de calculadoras fiables específicamente creadas para determinar el africano, pero es un poco impopular y dudo mucho que tenga éxito al plantearlo. Eso sí sobre influencia germánica ningún problema.

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

La referencia vasca me duplica el norteafricano.

Con Basque:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6659% / 0.02665938
38.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
26.2 Basque_French
25.0 Italian_Lombardy
10.0 Moroccan_North

Sin Basque:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.7390% / 0.02739006
78.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
17.0 Italian_Lombardy
5.0 Moroccan_North

Supongo que con las muestras celtíberas ocurrirá más de lo mismo, creo que mejor no usarlas.

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Claro, pero fijate lo que hace la calculadora, que intenta hacerte un fit "con lo que hay", entonces no solo es que te saca norafricano, es que te saca lombardo tambien, sin tener esa cantidad de lombardo encima, eso les pasa a todos por efecto de fitting en los modelos, esos solapamientos. Ni el norafricano ni el lombardo es real, hasta cierto punto, entonces para mi lo mejor que hay es ver desde muy atras las cosas.

Es mi opinion, segun lo que he podido dandole las vueltas al G25.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Claro, pero fijate lo que hace la calculadora, que intenta hacerte un fit "con lo que hay", entonces no solo es que te saca norafricano, es que te saca lombardo tambien, sin tener esa cantidad de lombardo encima, eso les pasa a todos por efecto de fitting en los modelos, esos solapamientos. Ni el norafricano ni el lombardo es real, hasta cierto punto, entonces para mi lo mejor que hay es ver desde muy atras las cosas.

Es mi opinion, segun lo que he podido dandole las vueltas al G25.

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Con el norte de Italia junto con Basque si hay solapamiento pudiéndose considerarse ibérico ambos pero con marruecos no creo que lo haya, aparece por la porción norteafricana que tengo. Pero lo que quiero es saber el porcentaje total real.

Costa atlántica unscaled.

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Portuguese,0.009328,0.01424,0.009548,-0.001372,0.013692,-0.001452,-0.001592,0.001196,0.012516,0.01632,-0.000452,0.004952,-0.008568,-0.008184,0.009252,-3e-04,-0.000868,-7e-04,-0.004584,-0.000196,0.000912,-0.00208,0.001056,-0.00094,-8.8e-05
Spanish_Galicia,0.0095556,0.0144222,0.0108889,-0.0005111,0.0133889,-3.33e-05,-0.0023222,0.00105,0.0120833,0.0164778,-0.0013111,0.0038278,-0.0084833,-0.0088333,0.0082111,0.0004444,-0.00325,-0.0017056,-0.0040111,-0.0008056,7e-04,-0.0023444,-0.0006556,-0.0030556,0.0010889
Basque_French,0.01125,0.01497,0.01463,0.00397,0.01833,9e-04,-6e-04,0.00144,0.01496,0.02261,-0.00571,0.0069,-0.01411,-0.01019,0.00974,-0.00146,-0.00914,0.00239,-0.00057,-0.00353,0.00814,0.00201,-0.00701,-0.00761,6e-05
French_Brittany,0.01155,0.0136225,0.01534,0.0121625,0.0127275,0.00567,0.0013425,0.001825,0.0040025,0.0052075,-0.00316,0.00373,-0.009665,-0.00952,0.013515,0.0033175,-0.0056,0.00101,-0.0003675,0.0014175,0.00358,0.001445,-0.0010175,0.0087525,0.00055
Irish,0.0117203,0.0132812,0.0161984,0.0149391,0.0124578,0.0067766,0.0012766,0.0020688,0.0015312,0.0014953,-0.0043969,0.0037406,-0.0096703,-0.0101203,0.0186766,0.0036359,-0.0084922,0.0017406,0.0005969,0.0010703,0.0041469,0.0009906,-0.0002891,0.0122547,0.0008906

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Target: Juan
Distance: 2.0403% / 0.02040301
59.2 Portuguese
30.6 Basque_French
10.2 Spanish_Galicia

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.2610% / 0.01261003
71.4 Spanish_Galicia
18.0 Basque_French
10.6 Irish

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Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.7020% / 0.01702011
74.6 Portuguese
25.4 French_Brittany
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