You need to tell that Jatt guy to change his fucking arrogant attitude in looking down on other peoples he despises just to make himself and his race look cool and etc. He is no different from that indian guy from britain, Butlerking, who keeps dissing on Gypsies and East-Asians. I dont mean to lump all Indians together, and im sorry if i sounded harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by asingh
2013 analysis again:
http://i62.tinypic.com/e0qqtx.png
Analysis from the paper the graph is from:
In Dynamo's/PrinceofBactria's PAINS to disassociate the Pashtun ethnic group from the other (Northwestern) South Asians, such as the Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, Sindhi's, etc, user Dynamo (and now on his sock KingofBactria) has resorted to the usage of frauding, and still disregarding obvious complete scientific papers and facts posted. Dynamo also thinks that by posting individually grabbed results without any source given he can refute any of the complete sources/papers/PCA's and plots I have given.Quote:
(...) Pashtun are close to the Indo-Aryan cluster, and Hazara are, as expected, near to the Altaic cluster.
He has an obvious superiorty complexion towards other geneticallly Northwestern South Asian peoples such as the Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, Sindhi's, Himachali's, etc. They hate the fact that Pashtuns cluster with these people and are in grief due to this. He doesn't agree with the hard scientific facts and papers that are posted because they would rather see themselves cluster firmly with Central Asians, West Asians, you name it, for whatever dumb reason. This is clearly seen by reading his comments both on his banned account, and on this new sock account he made.
He knows he can't contribute anything remotely useful. But the inferioty inside him still annoys him. I never thought being South Asian geneticaly would be such an extreme insult towards some people.
User ''Dynamo/PrinceofBactria'' showed before how incredibly hard he finds it and how extremely butthurt he is by PM'ing me this comment on his banned account:
Obvious inferiority complexion detected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo
The majority of Pashtuns live in Pakistan. 70% of the total Pashtun population. As shown in EVERY paper, graph, and PCA I posted the Pakistani Pashtuns CLEARLY cluster with other Northwestern South Asian and clear cut fall in the South Asian cluster. The Afghan Pashtuns, as seen in the graph above are on the edge of the South Asian/Central Asian cluster. They are extremely close to the South Asian cluster. Muuuuuch closer to the Middle East/Caucasus cluster as eveyone can see. The paper says as well itself in words that they are close to Indo-Aryan populations. It all makes sense considering the geography and history of the Pashtun people.
The plots, scientific papers, and graphs on the first page on this thread confirm this again as well, with the Pakistani Pashtuns first and foremost being closest to other Northwest South Asian populations, including the Sindhi's. Pashtuns are a South Asian population genetically, clustering closely with Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, Sindhi's, High Caste Himachali's, Baloch, etc. I showed it here with the results, papers, plots, and PCA's posted. No individual result, no trolling, no frauding can change this.
The Pashtuns are first and foremost Northwestern South Asian genetically as is shown in this thread. Otherwise, Pakistani Pashtuns are not Pashtuns, or otherwise the Kashmiris, Punjabi Jatts, Sindhi's, high caste Himachali's (aka the closest genetic brethren to the Pashtuns), etc are not actually South Asians ;) I know you can't refute this. Pashtuns are not remotely close to Middle Eastern/West Asian/Caucasus peoples. By far. Give up.
As if there's anything bad about clustering with other (Northwestern) South Asians as a population.[/QUOTE]
Never seen a person being so insulted by genetic results of his/her ethnic group. Damn the inferiority complexion!
most indians i have met were quite nice people and have much respect for pashtuns but the internet is full of indian trolls who think that south asians are a superior race and that indians created every civilization in this world.They want to think that pashtuns are also indians because it is easier for them to accept that they were enslaved and raided by other south asians than to accept that this was done by non-south asians,which pashtuns are actually.Afghanistan and pashtuns had always their distinct culture,language and even in the pre-islamic period they had their own distinct religions,which was not hinduism like some deluded indians think, but was influenced by some indian religions in the later periodsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900
Even we leave Jatts here, alone in India.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900
Afghanistan and especially Pashtuns distinct from the rest of South Asia, yeahhhhhhh right.
- Indus Valley Civilisation
- Kabul Shahis
- Mughal Empire
- Delhi Sultanate
- Sur Empire
- Kushan Empire
- Gandhara
- Sikh Empire
- Pala Empire
Not to mention Afghanistans extremely rich Hindu and Buddhist pre-Islamic past.
Pashtuns are inseparably linked with other South Asians. Not only genetically they're similar to other Northwest South Asians such as the Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, and Sindhi's, also historically they're inseparably tied to them. Hilarious. (also Central Asia of course)
True, but there is fragments of proof out there, that pre-Islam some parts of Afghanistan practiced the archaic and Vedic version of Hinduism. But nothing to hinge-pin that: they are South Asians, or remnants of South Asia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vir9
the indo-aryans migrated via the mountain passes of afghanistan into the indian subcontinent 3500-4000 years ago but some stayed in afghanistan and were later iranized by the iranic people who entered afghanistan a bit later or they survived in remote areas as modern dardic people and could preserve a religion similar to vedism for a long time (kalash,pashayi,). Since more than nearly 3000 years afghanistan is dominated by eastern iranic people who had their own distinct polytheistic religions which shared some similarities with zoroastranism in the west and hinduism in the east but were still quite distinct from both. Pashtuns are descendants of iranic people like saka, kamboja, kushan, hepthalites ,bactrians and Arachosians who mixed with dardic people in some cases.Already in the very old iranic avesta most areas were pashtuns live today are mentioned as land of iranic people.The kings of bactria were mostly worshippers of Mithras,Verethagna,Ahura Mazda,Nana,Atar,Vata and many other iranic gods (fire,sun,..) .In later periods some indian gods were also adopted but their cult was mixed with iranic beliefs very quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by asingh
Thre was no Afghanistan before a pashtoon born in multan Punjab United the tribes to form modern day affhanistanQuote:
Originally Posted by Truthbetold
dont troll ,afghans are much older than their modern state.Or do you think indians didnt existed before 1947???Quote:
Originally Posted by jatt
That is if the AIT occurred. Why would you tell me all this. Can you also use paragraphs. It is difficult to read such large chunks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vir9