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That is because native Vojvodina Serbs (those who aren't recent settlers) have their ancestry from southern Serbia, Kosovo and sometimes north Macedonia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Which is why it isn't strange he plots like that and why somebody like you wouldn't be suited to do such averages, because you simply don't know history of migrations in the area.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6352535Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6292366
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6284917
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6234320
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6315021
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6315083
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6347707
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6347714
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6347737
And there are 1001 more examples, just like there are Arabian nights.
You don't need to know the history to ask people where the 4 of their grandparents originate from, their ethnicities or to simply look at a genealogical tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Now, if you'll excuse me, I don't intend to waste my time on this trash talking all day. I'm out.
You shouldn't have quoted me about that sample from Lič, Gorski kotar because everything I said was correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Croats from that region are indeed among lightest and most German mixed Croats and when months later I got more than 20 samples from there it confirmed what I wrote.
Average from Gorski Kotar has highest North Atlantic score out of all Croatian regions.
Distance to: Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
0.90166513 Hungarian_Budapest
1.12035709 Hungarian_Transdanubia
1.38086929 Hungarian
2.24352401 Slovenian
2.59322193 Hungarian_Alfold
2.73265439 Croat_Croatia_Central
3.11903831 Croat_Croatia
3.13937892 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
3.60401165 Croat
3.99988750 Hungarian_Northern
5.03137158 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.13407246 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.57014362 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.63384521 Slovak
5.87407865 Hungarian_Eastern
5.99959165 Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.09589206 Moldova_North
6.18308984 Hungarian_Csango
6.25168777 Hungarian_Szekely
6.30130939 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.45396777 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.48468966 Croat_B&H
6.59647633 Czech
6.63315159 Austrian
6.64243178 Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
That sample does not represent native of the region, because it comes from Bunjevac settlement, and Bunjevci are Croats from Herzegovina.
History of Bunjevac settlement in Lič, where sample of that Starčević (typical Bunjevac surname) comes from. He is highly atypical for Gorski Kotar, but not atypical for Bunjevci/Herzegovina.
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For the first time Bunjevci (49 families) came to Lič, near Fužine, 1605-1606. year, with the consent given to them 'heavy hearts', according to Julius Cikulin, by the counts of Zrinski. The reason for this is one unsuccessful rebellion from the beginning of the 17th century. Then a group of Bukovica Bunjevci, with the help of Senj border guards, settled on the Zrinski estates in Lič. An oath taken in 1605 is recorded from that time. The counts tried to bring them into the ranks of their serfs, but that did not suit these Krmpoćans who belonged to the martyrs in the area under Turkish rule, so as soldiers they enjoyed special privileges. In Lič he built a church for himself, in the place of which today stands a large cross in memory of her. The Krmpoćan families who inhabited Lič belonged to the Krmpotić group, among which the surnames Skorupović, Mikulić, Butorčić, and others are mentioned, all surnames are known. Krmpotići from the Vojnić group are also mentioned (Matijević, Galešić, Petković, Vojnović, Gudelić, Božić and the most numerous Vojnići). The third group of Krmpotićs belonged to the Sladovićs (surnames Sladović, Lovrić, Mikulić, Horčević and others). All these groups of Bunjevci who found themselves in Lič began to emphasize their Croatian name. Between 1608 and 1614, the Bunjevci from Lič, probably due to high taxes and Zrinski's attempts to turn them into their serfs, began to move towards the sea and islands. Until 1609, part of the Bunjevci, especially the Butorci, led by Perica Butorčić, left Lič, they founded new settlements between Ledenice, Lič and Kapela. The majority of Butoracs settled in the area of Krmpot, where many still live today.
Bunjevac families soon found the area in the Senj hinterland too crowded. Already at the beginning of 1627, there were new movements of Bunjevci-Krmpoćani, which headed again towards Lič. This time, Lič is inhabited by Deranje, Blaževići, Prpići, Tomići, Tomljanovići, Jovanovići (the pronunciation is different than in the Serbian surname Jovanović). Pavelić (who soon left again), Peričići, Šojati, Vukelići and today the most numerous there are Radošević and Starčević. The small Lika field, very fertile and known for growing potatoes, quickly became too crowded for them, so the people of Krmpoć soon started moving towards the sea again. Radošević and Starčević, today the most numerous inhabitants of Lič, are still there. When you listen to Bunjevac from Lič today, you can immediately recognize him by his 'I was alone', their language is of course different from the neighboring inhabitants of Fužine, or newcomers who came to Lič.
Regarding Insuperable, he obviously has mental problems. I begged him more times than I remember for his K13, he never posted it. Not my problem.
Obviously it's him who dislikes his own results, not anyone else.
From my fathers side all the way back to 1816 in the same village in vojvodina, and from my mothers side also vojvodina, and etnic serb, but I becouse my family tree interests me, this summer i went to a dont know how to say realy in english building with history archives, and birth books "maticne knjige" so he is looking in to fiding more of my ancestorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Are you from Srem, Banat or Bačka?Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
why do you think Vojvodina Serbs should be the most Slavic genetically? Historically, Vojvodina Serbs are a just a mix of Serbs which settled here from all other regions further south. They should represent the average Serb genetically. There are 20 other ethnic groups in Vojvodina, but afaik Serbs mixed the most with Banat Romanians, which would just pull them south. All the other ethnic groups in Vojvodina are catholic and protestant which was a big barrier for intermarrying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
the sample of 43 Lika Serbs i have ranges from 24% - 34% Baltic, average 29. i expect Vojvodina Serbs to have a similar range to this.
based on some individual Serb results from Banija and Mačva, i expect on a larger sample the individual range here will probably be 26-36, and the average 30. These should be the most north shifted Serb regions, not Vojvodina.
on My Montenegrin sample, mostly from Podgorica, which is the southern part of the country, the range is 21-29, average 25.
based on some individual results i think the Serbs from regions like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prizren and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vranje will also have such a range and average.
all other Serbs should be in between.
You low IQ cow, read the title of my post before you write some bullshit. It's wroten "This how ethnic makeup of Bosnia will look if Bosnian "Croats" go back to their old indentity. ( MAP FROM 1991 )"Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
I used Ethnic map of Bosnia from 1991 and rechanged it you stupid subhuman trash.