Many people with Butnarciuc surname live in Domanivka district, Mykolaiv oblast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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Many people with Butnarciuc surname live in Domanivka district, Mykolaiv oblast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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Probably in Copani and Frunze, if I were to guess by the origin of the toponyms. However Frunze could also have no relation to them, as he was a Soviet war hero, and such names exist in other places throughout the former union.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
We have this documentary from Kirovograd oblast that's just at the top of your image, villages of Martynosha and Grutskoe, which are former Moldovan colonies. Nowadays they are very mixed and the language survives mostly among the elderly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqfS0BM8PA
By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.
It's probably a good idea to make some time to go through my records to collect the yDNA and mtDNA data.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Interestingly J2b2 has relatively decent concentration in Volga-Ural region, among Mordvins, Chuvashes and Tatars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That guy is unambiguously Russian paternally at least, which Leto knows. So it's a Russian haplo, but could also be from minorities. When Russians settled here, nobody asked them what ethnicity they were originally at home :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
J2b is not unheard of in ethnic Russians, that guy is not a "minority" unless he has some Jewish in him or something like that.
Close to 80% of ethnic Russians are R1a, N1a1 or I2a2. If you add R1b and I1 the percentage will rise to 90% or so. That's why I pointed that out.
From Bacau
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 20.76 27.29 21.65 10.28 16.69 0.23 0 1.47 0.13 0.62 0.86 0 0
Compared to others from Bacau
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 20.27 29.07 15.56 13.35 16.72 2.23 0 0.16 0.76 0.72 1.14 0 0 25.87 26.84 16.97 10.82 15.72 1.10 0.45 0.17 0.89 0 0.85 0 0.32 22.55 24.80 21.31 8.66 17.58 1.89 0 0 0.34 1.46 1.29 0.10 0 20.62 26.86 20.13 11.88 14.52 1.60 0.89 0 0.98 1.42 1.11 0 0 21.74 29.09 17.75 6.85 19.55 3.31 0 0.17 1.17 0.36 0 0 0 22.08 27.48 18.09 4.49 22.76 1.90 0.19 2.09 0.46 0 0.19 0.28 0 27.65 28.32 15.21 12.81 7.97 2.20 2.90 0 0.30 1.48 0 0 1.15 20.68 27.83 15.95 11.59 17.86 2.79 0 0.93 0 1.93 0.45 0 0 24.74 24.26 16.57 10.63 17.44 2.73 1.35 1.46 0 0.60 0.21 0 0 24.37 27.43 14.81 10.05 14.49 3.20 2.96 0.37 0.96 0.79 0.51 0 0.06 24.24 27.89 14.20 9.72 16.82 3.08 0 1.03 1.49 0.28 0.76 0 0.48 23.04 29.67 14.32 8.00 19.96 3.18 0 0.19 1.18 0 0.29 0 0.17
Distance to: Bacau_ind 5.17271689 Moldova_South 5.42246254 Romania_Banat 5.56498877 Bulgaria_Northwestern 5.59336214 Bosniak_Sandzak 5.62870323 Romania_Oltenia 5.70084204 Romania_average 5.74476283 Serb_south 5.81003442 Romania_Dobruja 5.87856275 Romania_Wallachia 6.10273709 Romania_Transylvania 6.11008183 Romania_Muntenia 6.14633224 Montenegrin 6.25079995 Romania_Moldavia_South 6.39037558 Bulgaria_Southwestern 6.50371432 Bulgaria_average 6.62336017 Romania_Crisana 6.62403955 Pomak_Bulgaria 6.69992537 Romania_Maramures 6.80847266 Bulgaria_Northcentral 6.91428232 Serb 6.94869772 Bulgaria_Southcentral 7.22991010 Serb_central 7.83882950 Macednia_north 7.91430351 Moldova_average 7.96947301 MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
Distance to: Bacau_ind 5.42246254 Romania_Banat 5.62870323 Romania_Oltenia 5.73240787 Romania_average 5.81003442 Romania_Dobrogea 6.10273709 Romania_Transilvania 6.11008183 Romania_Muntenia 6.25079995 Romania_Moldova_Sud 6.62336017 Romania_Crisana 6.63536736 Bulgarian 6.69992537 Romania_Maramures 8.76812979 Romania_Moldova_Nord 9.55636960 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 10.08249473 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 10.89878434 Romania_Moldova_Csango 11.38024105 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 11.90064284 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 13.82115769 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 16.53085297 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 16.58896923 Romania_Ukrainian 18.29342778 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 22.27132910 Ukrainian_Lviv 27.61235231 Crimean_Tatar 28.91184532 Romania_Jewish 29.83191244 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 33.29525792 Romania_Roma
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 5.3938% / 5.39381976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.6 Romania_Banat
3.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Banat
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 5.7263% / 5.72630418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
89.0 Romania_average
11.0 Romania_Muntenia
Distance to: Bacau_ind 4.82480051 Romania_Oltenia_Valcea 5.08446654 Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu 5.36802571 Romania_Banat_Timis 5.38358617 Romania_Muntenia_Prahova 5.56273314 Romania_Transylvania_Cluj 5.67018518 Romania_Maramures_SatuMare 5.84666572 Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti 5.86705207 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 5.90930622 Romania_Muntenia_Arges 5.91479501 Romania_Oltenia_Olt 5.91622346 Romania_Muntenia_Bucuresti 5.92239816 Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin 6.01630285 Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara 6.04901645 Romania_Transylvania_Alba 6.05735916 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 6.09890154 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 6.10186857 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj 6.10596430 Romania_Crisana_Bihor 6.11997549 Romania_Dobruja_Constanta 6.18092226 Romania_Muntenia_Braila 6.43223911 Romania_Oltenia_Gorj 6.43794998 Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita 6.48798890 Romania_Muntenia_Ilfov 6.51762227 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea 6.60921327 Romania_Muntenia_Buzau
From Suceava
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 29.07 22.81 19.18 5.32 16.58 0.75 3.66 1.13 1.37 0 0.13 0 0
Compared to others from Suceava
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 28.74 31.61 13.10 9.18 12.47 0.66 0.78 0 0.86 0.19 0.79 1.61 0 26.88 29.15 13.73 8.13 14.66 2.27 2.06 0 2.15 0.88 0.10 0 0 26.90 27.46 17.28 9.68 14.68 0 0 0 2.21 1.16 0.35 0 0.29 30.06 26.76 16.04 8.87 14.56 1.54 0 1.00 0.58 0 0.60 0 0 25.53 34.27 13.61 7.30 10.70 2.19 1.74 0 2.96 1.22 0.47 0 0 23.46 34.89 15.09 7.43 11.82 3.66 0 0 0.39 2.00 0.65 0.60 0 24.18 33.34 12.99 8.44 13.91 1.23 1.31 1.19 1.84 0.89 0.67 0 0 24.99 32.68 13.35 7.67 16.04 1.42 0.95 0 0.78 1.26 0.87 0 0 29.03 34.47 13.15 6.10 12.78 1.79 0.78 1.02 0.87 0 0 0 0 21.99 33.52 14.77 11.31 11.99 2.49 0.5 1.04 2.23 0 0.16 0 0 23.64 28.74 16.52 6.63 20.14 1.10 0 1.05 0.10 0.66 1.42 0 0 23.25 30.39 14.82 11.44 15.45 0 0.23 0.28 2.95 0 0 1.16 0 24.37 39.23 10.88 6.70 13.46 1.45 0 0 2.62 0.51 0.79 0 0 24.60 32.75 14.70 8.38 10.93 2.70 2.02 0 1.75 1.72 0.25 0.20 0 24.50 37.74 11.01 7.68 12.62 2.75 0.39 0.96 1.12 0 0.26 0 0.98
Distance to: Suceava_ind 7.33275528 Romania_Crisana 8.26173105 Montenegrin 8.37367303 Romania_Transylvania 8.41621649 Bosniak_Sandzak 8.60460342 IT_Friuli-VG 8.80827452 Romania_Moldavia_South 8.87279550 Romania_Oltenia 8.98248852 Székely 8.98571088 IT_Trentino 9.15736862 Romania_Maramures 9.21126484 Romania_average 9.24235360 Hungarian_Transylvania 9.30904399 Serb_south 9.32281073 Serb_central 9.51351144 Romania_Banat 9.57654426 Csángó 9.78128315 Serb 9.84556245 Bulgaria_Southwestern 10.01029970 Romania_Wallachia 10.11735637 Romania_Dobruja 10.34663713 Bulgaria_Northwestern 10.51547907 Romania_Muntenia 10.53961100 Moldova_South 10.58626884 Macednia_north 10.59210083 IT_Veneto
Distance to: Suceava_ind 7.33275528 Romania_Crisana 8.37367303 Romania_Transilvania 8.78752858 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 8.80827452 Romania_Moldova_Sud 8.87279550 Romania_Oltenia 9.15736862 Romania_Maramures 9.24235360 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 9.38065563 Romania_average 9.51351144 Romania_Banat 9.56241078 Romania_Moldova_Csango 10.10716083 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 10.11735637 Romania_Dobrogea 10.51547907 Romania_Muntenia 11.07982401 Romania_Moldova_Nord 11.33387401 Bulgarian 11.85874361 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 12.59123902 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 15.11386780 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 17.50269408 Romania_Ukrainian 17.81340226 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 23.60075211 Ukrainian_Lviv 28.40649222 Romania_Jewish 29.81960764 Crimean_Tatar 31.94211014 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 32.79856094 Romania_Roma
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.4585% / 4.45850032 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
39.0 Romania_Crisana
8.0 Romania_Jewish
6.4 Romania_Roma
-Jewish
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.8913% / 4.89125804 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.9 Romania_Crisana
43.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.4 Romania_Roma
A certified mess :thumb001:, though it's mostly due to the unbalanced distribution between NA and Baltic that happens with some Romanians. We have at least two users from Romania on this forum with such cases and both are from Moldavia.
Distance to: Suceava_ind 6.38856791 Romania_Crisana_Arad 6.73361716 Romania_Crisana_Bihor 6.79449777 Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud 6.89926808 Romania_Oltenia_Gorj 7.89389638 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 7.90908339 Romania_Transylvania_Alba 7.93037830 Romania_Transylvania_Mures 8.21245396 Romania_Transylvania_Brasov 8.24909692 Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu 8.35412473 Romania_Maramures_SatuMare 8.49251435 Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin 8.64780897 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj 8.96373806 Romania_Oltenia_Olt 9.02702609 Romania_Transylvania_Cluj 9.07913542 Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti 9.19005441 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler 9.20958197 Romania_Muntenia_Prahova 9.30151063 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 9.37149401 Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara 9.39533395 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 9.60793943 Romania_Wallachia_1/4Roma 9.65115019 Romania_Maramures_Maramures 9.81668478 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 9.82891652 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 9.93835499 Romania_Dobruja_Constanta
From Suceava
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.45 31.50 13.01 8.99 11.95 4.09 1.91 0.19 2.63 0 0 0 0.27
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 28.74 31.61 13.10 9.18 12.47 0.66 0.78 0 0.86 0.19 0.79 1.61 0 26.88 29.15 13.73 8.13 14.66 2.27 2.06 0 2.15 0.88 0.10 0 0 26.90 27.46 17.28 9.68 14.68 0 0 0 2.21 1.16 0.35 0 0.29 30.06 26.76 16.04 8.87 14.56 1.54 0 1.00 0.58 0 0.60 0 0 25.53 34.27 13.61 7.30 10.70 2.19 1.74 0 2.96 1.22 0.47 0 0 23.46 34.89 15.09 7.43 11.82 3.66 0 0 0.39 2.00 0.65 0.60 0 24.18 33.34 12.99 8.44 13.91 1.23 1.31 1.19 1.84 0.89 0.67 0 0 24.99 32.68 13.35 7.67 16.04 1.42 0.95 0 0.78 1.26 0.87 0 0 29.03 34.47 13.15 6.10 12.78 1.79 0.78 1.02 0.87 0 0 0 0 21.99 33.52 14.77 11.31 11.99 2.49 0.5 1.04 2.23 0 0.16 0 0 23.64 28.74 16.52 6.63 20.14 1.10 0 1.05 0.10 0.66 1.42 0 0 23.25 30.39 14.82 11.44 15.45 0 0.23 0.28 2.95 0 0 1.16 0 24.37 39.23 10.88 6.70 13.46 1.45 0 0 2.62 0.51 0.79 0 0 24.60 32.75 14.70 8.38 10.93 2.70 2.02 0 1.75 1.72 0.25 0.20 0 24.50 37.74 11.01 7.68 12.62 2.75 0.39 0.96 1.12 0 0.26 0 0.98 29.07 22.81 19.18 5.32 16.58 0.75 3.66 1.13 1.37 0 0.13 0 0
Distance to: Suceava_ind 4.69720129 Bosniak 4.86506937 Csángó 4.96114906 Moldova_North 4.97656508 Romania_Moldavia_North 5.10323427 Croat_South 5.13986381 Croat_East 5.14716427 Moldova_Centre 5.40458139 Croat 5.49471564 Moldova_average 5.65075216 Székely 5.72780063 Croat_West 5.73614853 Hungarian_Transylvania 5.81949311 Serb_north 6.07605958 Hungarian_Alföld 6.67555241 Hungarian 6.78930041 Serb 6.89252494 Serb_central 6.96425875 Romania_Maramures 7.28590420 Croat_North 7.38311587 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 8.04426504 Hungarian_Northern 8.48090797 Romania_Moldavia_South 8.60778717 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 8.71424696 Slovenian 8.98732441 Romania_Crisana
Distance to: Suceava_ind 4.88317520 Romania_Moldova_Csango 4.97656508 Romania_Moldova_Nord 5.73614853 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 5.97956359 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 6.96425875 Romania_Maramures 8.12193327 Romania_Ukrainian 8.48090797 Romania_Moldova_Sud 8.60778717 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 8.98732441 Romania_Crisana 9.37136596 Romania_Transilvania 9.84148363 Romania_average 10.39493146 Romania_Banat 10.89071164 Romania_Oltenia 11.40612993 Romania_Dobrogea 11.89647847 Romania_Muntenia 12.97937595 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.47644612 Bulgarian 15.53116222 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 16.56726894 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 16.71559452 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 22.08401005 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 25.98625983 Crimean_Tatar 26.52756114 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 35.47857241 Romania_Roma 35.68564277 Romania_Jewish
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.8505% / 2.85048538 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
25.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
23.9 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.3 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
4.3 Romania_Roma
-Hungarian, Ukrainian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.2524% / 3.25244188 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.3 Romania_Ukrainian
36.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
5.2 Crimean_Tatar
3.5 Romania_Roma
3.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
Distance to: Suceava_ind 3.97027707 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 4.88434233 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 4.94044532 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 5.16411657 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian 5.69661303 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler 5.83620596 Romania_Crisana_Salaj 6.23032904 Romania_Maramures_Maramures 6.32553555 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 6.50710381 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 7.59391862 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 8.12193327 Romania_Ukrainian 8.35306531 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea 8.42628032 Romania_Transylvania_Mures 8.53843663 Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud 8.57187844 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 9.31455313 Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin 9.50012105 Romania_Transylvania_Cluj 9.58621406 Romania_Transylvania_Brasov 9.64624798 Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu 9.66755398 Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara 9.95985442 Romania_Transylvania_Alba 10.01536320 Romania_Maramures_SatuMare 10.31322937 Romania_Muntenia_Braila 10.46723937 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj 10.70942575 Romania_Banat_Timis