Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

Será que el entre 10-30% Ibérico que les da a los franceses en compañías comerciales viene todo de la emigración española de los 60 y 70...

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

En Brasil tienes 3 veces más que yo, debe ser algo italianuski no?

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Tiene pinta que del gallego también.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Lo sé, era para ilustrar con un ejemplo lo que estamos hablando.

Aunque en mi caso, aparte de que a todos nos sale USA porque es donde más gente se hace el test, me llama la atención el gran número de franceses.

Edit: y en todos, me refiero, a que tenemos mucho vínculo genético con Francia, sea moderno o antiguo, y es algo que los Franceses siempre tratan de disimular aquí.

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French are a diverse bunch, those who cluster close, very close to Spaniards are SW French and SE French.

People from North/North-Central France are in between NW Euros and Spaniards but closer to the first than the later. It's not as simple as it can be perceived.

Now of course there's a genetical link, like in all Western Europe (between all Western populations).

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Originally Posted by Samnium

French are a diverse bunch, those who cluster close, very close to Spaniards are SW French and SE French.

People from North/North-Central France are in between NW Euros and Spaniards but closer to the first than the later. It's not as simple as it can be perceived.

Now of course there's a genetical link, like in all Western Europe (between all Western populations).

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Even North Frenchs score Iberian in commercial tests, it´s curious how you avoid mention Spain or Iberia and you use an alternative term as Western Europe.

Repeated.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Even North Frenchs score Iberian in commercial tests, it´s curious how you avoid mention Spain or Iberia and you use an alternative term as Western Europe.

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I agree btw, I've never denied that, the only French that score no Iberian on commercial tests are Brittons.

It's just that Northern French being a little bit more southern shifted, the shift can be perceived as Spaniard because it's still Western.

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Originally Posted by Samnium

I agree btw, I've never denied that, the only French that score no Iberian on commercial tests are Brittons.

It's just that Northern French being a little bit more southern shifted, the shift can be perceived as Spaniard because it's still Western.

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Sorry I cannot answered because this forum is a s**t and gives me continually problems...

Brittons are quite British shifted, aren´t they?

I was not thinking in you specifically, neither only in this forum members.

You have become the Frenchs representative in this forum. Tu dois recevoir des pouvoirs diplomatiques du Ministere Affaires étrangères Français.

You must do a test when all this coronavirus story ends.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Sorry I cannot answered because this forum is a s**t and gives me continually problems...

Brittons are quite British shifted, aren´t they?

I was not thinking in you specifically, neither only in this forum members.

You have become the Frenchs representative in this forum. Tu dois recevoir des pouvoirs diplomatiques du Ministere Affaires étrangères Français.

You must do a test when all this coronavirus story ends.

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Bueno, la curiosidad mato al gato y he pagado por la mejora de salud de MyHeritage. Supuestamente harian un re-testeo y me actualizarian el asqueroso chip que tengo, al que tu tienes. Veamos si con eso porfin puedo saber si soy DF27, L21 o U152.

Y por supuesto, resultados de gedmatch un poquitin mas exactos, no cambiara mucho.

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Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico

Bueno, la curiosidad mato al gato y he pagado por la mejora de salud de MyHeritage. Supuestamente harian un re-testeo y me actualizarian el asqueroso chip que tengo, al que tu tienes. Veamos si con eso porfin puedo saber si soy DF27, L21 o U152.

Y por supuesto, resultados de gedmatch un poquitin mas exactos, no cambiara mucho.

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Con la mejora de salud de MH te dicen también el haplotipo y va a ser más específico que que de da 23andme???

MH está de rebajas ahora, el kit básico está al mismo precio al que lo compré yo, 49 euros, pero no sé yo si llegará tu test o cuanto tardará en llegar tal y como están por USA con el coronavirus.

Por cierto, qué te dió el primer test de MH? Ya comenté que no recuerdo haberlo visto, sí me suena uno de 23andme tuyo.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Sorry I cannot answered because this forum is a s**t and gives me continually problems...

Brittons are quite British shifted, aren´t they?

I was not thinking in you specifically, neither only in this forum members.

You have become the Frenchs representative in this forum. Tu dois recevoir des pouvoirs diplomatiques du Ministere Affaires étrangères Français.

You must do a test when all this coronavirus story ends.

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Hahaha, yeah of course for the test. I can have very interesting/surprising results given my background.

Yeah Brittons are atypical, a bit like Corsicans, they cluster close to UK people.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

No soy yo, somos todos los españoles. Estamos mucho más relacionados que lo que son capaces de aceptar los franceses, y no es solo por la emigración española en los 60-70, que más de la mitad del número de mis coincidencias españolas, sean coincidencias en Francia ,que en gran parte sean de emigrados españoles modernos no explicaría un número tan alto.

Creo!!!

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En el medievo gran parte del norte y centro de España fue repoblado con franceses, especialmente a lo largo del Camino de Santiago, que era también una vía de repoblación a la par que religiosa.

http://www.vallenajerilla.com/berceo...cionfranca.htm

https://ifc.dpz.es/recursos/publicac...rciamouton.pdf

En los siglos XVI y XVII gran parte de la población de Aragón y Cataluña eran también inmigrantes franceses. Sus descendientes en Zaragoza y Gerona paradójicamente fueron exterminados por el ejercito francés durante los sitios de 1808 y 1809.

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Originally Posted by Duffmannn

En el medievo gran parte del norte y centro de España fue repoblado con franceses, especialmente a lo largo del Camino de Santiago, que era también una vía de repoblación a la par que religiosa.

http://www.vallenajerilla.com/berceo...cionfranca.htm

https://ifc.dpz.es/recursos/publicac...rciamouton.pdf

En los siglos XVI y XVII gran parte de la población de Aragón y Cataluña eran también inmigrantes franceses. Sus descendientes en Zaragoza y Gerona paradójicamente fueron exterminados por el ejercito francés durante los sitios de 1808 y 1809.

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Si ya. y en Pamplona había un Burgo solo de francos, pero me refería más al revés, a la gran presencia del componente peninsular en Francia.

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

Mi lista completa 23andme:

United States of America (170)
Mexico (108)
Spain (72)
Puerto Rico (57)
Cuba (40)
Colombia (31)
Portugal (21)
Brazil (18)
United Kingdom (16)
Dominican Republic (14)
Guatemala (14)
Ecuador (13)
El Salvador (13)
Italy (12)
Germany (11)
Chile (10)
France (8)
Peru (6)
Canada (5)
Greece (5)

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Aqui está minha lista

United States of America (211)
Puerto Rico (151)
Portugal (148)
Mexico (62)
Brazil (60)
Cuba (34)
Spain (30)
Colombia (18)
Italy (18)
United Kingdom (12)
Canada (10)
Dominican Republic (5)
Venezuela (5)
Ecuador (4)
France (4)
Germany (4)
Trinidad and Tobago (4)
Argentina (3)
Guatemala (3)
Ireland (3)

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Originally Posted by PT Tagus

Aqui está minha lista

United States of America (211)
Puerto Rico (151)
Portugal (148)
Mexico (62)
Brazil (60)
Cuba (34)
Spain (30)
Colombia (18)
Italy (18)
United Kingdom (12)
Canada (10)
Dominican Republic (5)
Venezuela (5)
Ecuador (4)
France (4)
Germany (4)
Trinidad and Tobago (4)
Argentina (3)
Guatemala (3)
Ireland (3)

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De Puerto Rico tienes a paladas, y Venezuela para darle envidia a Celtibero.

Mi primer intento de calculadora para G25 (Scaled), especial para peninsulares:

Sed indulgentes!!!

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Ibérico_Saleroso,0.1096493,0.1496213,0.0349467,-0.0047373,0.0433927,-0.004183,-0.00094,0.0002307,0.0188843,0.0302513,-0.0033563,0.0060943,-0.0142217,-0.0155517,0.006831,-0.0045083,-0.0028683,-0.0005913,-0.0023463,-0.0044603,0.0038267,-0.001113,-0.0011503,-0.0041367,-0.0003593
Ibérico_LevantaPiedras,0.128241,0.1516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
Ibérico_MedioGuiri,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
Ibérico_Mesetario,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Ibérico_Oscuro,0.081953,0.1452205,0.0324325,-0.015827,0.042777,-0.009901,-0.00329,0.0043845,0.0302695,0.030069,-0.0003245,0.0047205,-0.0110755,-0.0139,0.016965,-0.0118665,-0.009388,-0.0055745,-0.0098675,-0.0016885,-0.000749,-0.0072335,0.0002465,-0.0054825,0.0017365
Ibérico_Melancólico,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Moruno,-0.06567898,0.13356888,-0.0092498,-0.0762153,0.02251074,-0.03409864,-0.028502,0.00764518,0.06538102,0.02575472,0.00744612,-0.00769706,0.02457482,-0.01388018,0.01651156,-0.01250064,-0.00322548,-0.02020836,-0.04102588,0.0098647,-0.01315984,-0.03473298,0.02297862,-0.00255752,0.00493804
Chinorri,0.021341900,-0.421613600,-0.007793850,-0.047507900,0.048598850,0.023124850,0.003446650,0.001865350,-0.003187150,0.004464650,-0.058229900,-0.007543600,0.007296650,-0.001995600,-0.007114000,-0.000762500,0.005389150,-0.001213900,-0.007437250,-0.001427650,0.007247850,0.020175900,0.007939100,0.001827500,0.021145600
Malacatones,0.046189200,-0.057078220,-0.144754480,0.096559380,-0.069009980,0.052907800,0.000897460,0.009768740,0.031643920,0.018810740,-0.004180700,-0.000887640,0.000537620,0.000019720,-0.000789020,0.002519640,0.002783900,0.000297180,0.000087180,-0.000482300,0.002426980,-0.001045500,-0.000854920,-0.001358380,-0.000188520
Panchito,0.054656733,-0.296815100,0.112245567,0.091282867,-0.103107833,-0.016778400,-0.270709867,-0.324674300,-0.011157233,-0.014955500,-0.004025700,-0.00414210,0.001292533,0.018729767,-0.007696000,0.001877733,0.005272633,0.000012033,0.001084667,-0.000565800,-0.002672733,0.005796400,0.000120900,-0.000687333,-0.000742400
Guiri_BastanteClaro,0.132282600,0.135756333,0.061161633,0.046106467,0.039345667,0.017600733,0.003287900,0.005447133,0.004327533,0.003295600,-0.005661400,0.005521833,-0.012989233,-0.012292100,0.022989067,0.004551400,-0.010343533,0.002445067,0.002128700,0.001599100,0.004794667,0.002794767,-0.000341533,0.013182367,0.000368333
Guiri_Claro,0.130459417,0.134268700,0.061847367,0.044914783,0.039894650,0.017420117,0.005004867,0.006758567,0.004519683,0.002044850,-0.005101800,0.004013867,-0.008432800,-0.007353583,0.016311117,0.004172450,-0.007564800,0.002191483,0.003187167,0.002457033,0.005498650,0.002493950,-0.000708900,0.012076550,0.000242417
Guiri_ColorMedio,0.127173900,0.142229767,0.049875833,0.021443700,0.040900233,0.007210567,0.002080200,0.004740033,0.011103400,0.017480767,-0.004709500,0.005990733,-0.012464633,-0.008004033,0.011022367,0.003898800,-0.003475667,0.003195900,0.002458633,-0.000549533,0.002878400,0.002392167,-0.001701633,0.006681400,-0.000599000
Negroide,-0.580417820,0.070006620,0.017992280,0.007075060,0.002945740,0.005229880,-0.017271800,0.023208900,-0.023864760,0.023601980,0.003959440,-0.004098100,0.009881020,-0.000347880,0.004409280,-0.004457680,0.002281660,0.013838240,-0.010843140,0.002367500,-0.002945580,-0.004106680,0.003299620,0.000528420,-0.000030680

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Creo que la mejor distancia sería con DIST COL 1X, que opináis?

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6401% / 0.01640129
49.6 Ibérico_Melancólico
29.8 Ibérico_LevantaPiedras
20.6 Ibérico_MedioGuiri

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7507% / 0.01750712 | ADC: 1x
42.2 Ibérico_Mesetario
21.8 Ibérico_Melancólico
19.8 Ibérico_MedioGuiri
16.2 Ibérico_LevantaPiedras

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6472% / 0.01647207 | ADC: 0.5x
45.0 Ibérico_Melancólico
26.8 Ibérico_LevantaPiedras
20.4 Ibérico_MedioGuiri
7.8 Ibérico_Mesetario

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6402% / 0.01640240 | ADC: 0.25x
50.0 Ibérico_Melancólico
29.4 Ibérico_LevantaPiedras
20.6 Ibérico_MedioGuiri

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02394533 Ibérico_Mesetario
0.02532658 Ibérico_Melancólico
0.02684281 Ibérico_Saleroso
0.02886831 Ibérico_MedioGuiri
0.03065155 Ibérico_LevantaPiedras
0.03801827 Guiri_ColorMedio
0.05210209 Ibérico_Oscuro
0.07013278 Guiri_Claro
0.07076230 Guiri_BastanteClaro
0.23367985 Moruno
0.33057315 Malacatones
0.59088150 Chinorri
0.65202005 Panchito
0.71079165 Negroide

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Con la mejora de salud de MH te dicen también el haplotipo y va a ser más específico que que de da 23andme???

MH está de rebajas ahora, el kit básico está al mismo precio al que lo compré yo, 49 euros, pero no sé yo si llegará tu test o cuanto tardará en llegar tal y como están por USA con el coronavirus.

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No me dicen el haplotipo, pero toman mi otra muestra de saliva (porque te piden 2) y me da la cobertura de Y-DNA que tu tienes, que son alrededor de 3200, yo tengo 480, que es una mierda. Ojo, esto es lo que creo.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Por cierto, qué te dió el primer test de MH? Ya comenté que no recuerdo haberlo visto, sí me suena uno de 23andme tuyo.

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Un resultado irrisorio, eso fue lo que me dio:

Europa del Sur 82,2%
Ibérico 58,1%
Griego y del Sur de Italia 24,1%
Judío Askenazí 4,5%
Finlandés 1,3%
Norafricano 8,2%
Nigeriano 1,4%
De Medio Oriente 2,4%

FTDNA y LivingDNA han estado mas acertados, en terminos de resultados de estas compañias en los cuales solo 23andme al parecer es el decente.

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Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico

No me dicen el haplotipo, pero toman mi otra muestra de saliva (porque te piden 2) y me da la cobertura de Y-DNA que tu tienes, que son alrededor de 3200, yo tengo 480, que es una mierda. Ojo, esto es lo que creo.





FTDNA y LivingDNA han estado mas acertados, en terminos de resultados de estas compañias en los cuales solo 23andme al parecer es el decente.

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Cuando yo hice el test esperaba que mis resultados fueran más o menos como esos que te dieron a tí, algo más de Ibérico igual, pero algo muy similar.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Mi primer intento de calculadora para G25 (Scaled), especial para peninsulares:

Sed indulgentes!!!

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Ibérico_Saleroso,0.1096493,0.1496213,0.0349467,-0.0047373,0.0433927,-0.004183,-0.00094,0.0002307,0.0188843,0.0302513,-0.0033563,0.0060943,-0.0142217,-0.0155517,0.006831,-0.0045083,-0.0028683,-0.0005913,-0.0023463,-0.0044603,0.0038267,-0.001113,-0.0011503,-0.0041367,-0.0003593
Ibérico_LevantaPiedras,0.128241,0.1516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
Ibérico_MedioGuiri,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
Ibérico_Mesetario,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Ibérico_Oscuro,0.081953,0.1452205,0.0324325,-0.015827,0.042777,-0.009901,-0.00329,0.0043845,0.0302695,0.030069,-0.0003245,0.0047205,-0.0110755,-0.0139,0.016965,-0.0118665,-0.009388,-0.0055745,-0.0098675,-0.0016885,-0.000749,-0.0072335,0.0002465,-0.0054825,0.0017365
Ibérico_Melancólico,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Moruno,-0.06567898,0.13356888,-0.0092498,-0.0762153,0.02251074,-0.03409864,-0.028502,0.00764518,0.06538102,0.02575472,0.00744612,-0.00769706,0.02457482,-0.01388018,0.01651156,-0.01250064,-0.00322548,-0.02020836,-0.04102588,0.0098647,-0.01315984,-0.03473298,0.02297862,-0.00255752,0.00493804
Chinorri,0.021341900,-0.421613600,-0.007793850,-0.047507900,0.048598850,0.023124850,0.003446650,0.001865350,-0.003187150,0.004464650,-0.058229900,-0.007543600,0.007296650,-0.001995600,-0.007114000,-0.000762500,0.005389150,-0.001213900,-0.007437250,-0.001427650,0.007247850,0.020175900,0.007939100,0.001827500,0.021145600
Malacatones,0.046189200,-0.057078220,-0.144754480,0.096559380,-0.069009980,0.052907800,0.000897460,0.009768740,0.031643920,0.018810740,-0.004180700,-0.000887640,0.000537620,0.000019720,-0.000789020,0.002519640,0.002783900,0.000297180,0.000087180,-0.000482300,0.002426980,-0.001045500,-0.000854920,-0.001358380,-0.000188520
Panchito,0.054656733,-0.296815100,0.112245567,0.091282867,-0.103107833,-0.016778400,-0.270709867,-0.324674300,-0.011157233,-0.014955500,-0.004025700,-0.00414210,0.001292533,0.018729767,-0.007696000,0.001877733,0.005272633,0.000012033,0.001084667,-0.000565800,-0.002672733,0.005796400,0.000120900,-0.000687333,-0.000742400
Guiri_BastanteClaro,0.132282600,0.135756333,0.061161633,0.046106467,0.039345667,0.017600733,0.003287900,0.005447133,0.004327533,0.003295600,-0.005661400,0.005521833,-0.012989233,-0.012292100,0.022989067,0.004551400,-0.010343533,0.002445067,0.002128700,0.001599100,0.004794667,0.002794767,-0.000341533,0.013182367,0.000368333
Guiri_Claro,0.130459417,0.134268700,0.061847367,0.044914783,0.039894650,0.017420117,0.005004867,0.006758567,0.004519683,0.002044850,-0.005101800,0.004013867,-0.008432800,-0.007353583,0.016311117,0.004172450,-0.007564800,0.002191483,0.003187167,0.002457033,0.005498650,0.002493950,-0.000708900,0.012076550,0.000242417
Guiri_ColorMedio,0.127173900,0.142229767,0.049875833,0.021443700,0.040900233,0.007210567,0.002080200,0.004740033,0.011103400,0.017480767,-0.004709500,0.005990733,-0.012464633,-0.008004033,0.011022367,0.003898800,-0.003475667,0.003195900,0.002458633,-0.000549533,0.002878400,0.002392167,-0.001701633,0.006681400,-0.000599000
Negroide,-0.580417820,0.070006620,0.017992280,0.007075060,0.002945740,0.005229880,-0.017271800,0.023208900,-0.023864760,0.023601980,0.003959440,-0.004098100,0.009881020,-0.000347880,0.004409280,-0.004457680,0.002281660,0.013838240,-0.010843140,0.002367500,-0.002945580,-0.004106680,0.003299620,0.000528420,-0.000030680

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Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 3.2153% / 0.03215319 | ADC: 0.5x
99.0 Ibérico_Melancólico
1.0 Moruno

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 3.0785% / 0.03078460 | ADC: 0.25x
85.8 Ibérico_Melancólico
6.6 Ibérico_Saleroso
3.6 Moruno
2.8 Guiri_ColorMedio
1.2 Malacatones

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 3.0158% / 0.03015793
42.4 Ibérico_Melancólico
25.2 Ibérico_Saleroso
22.6 Guiri_ColorMedio
8.4 Moruno
1.4 Malacatones

Moruno nivel dios, vamos.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 3.2153% / 0.03215319 | ADC: 0.5x
99.0 Ibérico_Melancólico
1.0 Moruno

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 3.0785% / 0.03078460 | ADC: 0.25x
85.8 Ibérico_Melancólico
6.6 Ibérico_Saleroso
3.6 Moruno
2.8 Guiri_ColorMedio
1.2 Malacatones

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 3.0158% / 0.03015793
42.4 Ibérico_Melancólico
25.2 Ibérico_Saleroso
22.6 Guiri_ColorMedio
8.4 Moruno
1.4 Malacatones

Moruno nivel dios, vamos.

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Nah, tampoco es muy grave, pero con el 1X valdría y es justo el que te falta.

Cómo experto calculador, qué te parece mi primer intento?

las distancias no están tan mal...

Quote:

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Mi primer intento de calculadora para G25 (Scaled), especial para peninsulares:

Sed indulgentes!!!

Code:

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Ibérico_Saleroso,0.1096493,0.1496213,0.0349467,-0.0047373,0.0433927,-0.004183,-0.00094,0.0002307,0.0188843,0.0302513,-0.0033563,0.0060943,-0.0142217,-0.0155517,0.006831,-0.0045083,-0.0028683,-0.0005913,-0.0023463,-0.0044603,0.0038267,-0.001113,-0.0011503,-0.0041367,-0.0003593
Ibérico_LevantaPiedras,0.128241,0.1516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
Ibérico_MedioGuiri,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
Ibérico_Mesetario,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Ibérico_Oscuro,0.081953,0.1452205,0.0324325,-0.015827,0.042777,-0.009901,-0.00329,0.0043845,0.0302695,0.030069,-0.0003245,0.0047205,-0.0110755,-0.0139,0.016965,-0.0118665,-0.009388,-0.0055745,-0.0098675,-0.0016885,-0.000749,-0.0072335,0.0002465,-0.0054825,0.0017365
Ibérico_Melancólico,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Moruno,-0.06567898,0.13356888,-0.0092498,-0.0762153,0.02251074,-0.03409864,-0.028502,0.00764518,0.06538102,0.02575472,0.00744612,-0.00769706,0.02457482,-0.01388018,0.01651156,-0.01250064,-0.00322548,-0.02020836,-0.04102588,0.0098647,-0.01315984,-0.03473298,0.02297862,-0.00255752,0.00493804
Chinorri,0.021341900,-0.421613600,-0.007793850,-0.047507900,0.048598850,0.023124850,0.003446650,0.001865350,-0.003187150,0.004464650,-0.058229900,-0.007543600,0.007296650,-0.001995600,-0.007114000,-0.000762500,0.005389150,-0.001213900,-0.007437250,-0.001427650,0.007247850,0.020175900,0.007939100,0.001827500,0.021145600
Malacatones,0.046189200,-0.057078220,-0.144754480,0.096559380,-0.069009980,0.052907800,0.000897460,0.009768740,0.031643920,0.018810740,-0.004180700,-0.000887640,0.000537620,0.000019720,-0.000789020,0.002519640,0.002783900,0.000297180,0.000087180,-0.000482300,0.002426980,-0.001045500,-0.000854920,-0.001358380,-0.000188520
Panchito,0.054656733,-0.296815100,0.112245567,0.091282867,-0.103107833,-0.016778400,-0.270709867,-0.324674300,-0.011157233,-0.014955500,-0.004025700,-0.00414210,0.001292533,0.018729767,-0.007696000,0.001877733,0.005272633,0.000012033,0.001084667,-0.000565800,-0.002672733,0.005796400,0.000120900,-0.000687333,-0.000742400
Guiri_BastanteClaro,0.132282600,0.135756333,0.061161633,0.046106467,0.039345667,0.017600733,0.003287900,0.005447133,0.004327533,0.003295600,-0.005661400,0.005521833,-0.012989233,-0.012292100,0.022989067,0.004551400,-0.010343533,0.002445067,0.002128700,0.001599100,0.004794667,0.002794767,-0.000341533,0.013182367,0.000368333
Guiri_Claro,0.130459417,0.134268700,0.061847367,0.044914783,0.039894650,0.017420117,0.005004867,0.006758567,0.004519683,0.002044850,-0.005101800,0.004013867,-0.008432800,-0.007353583,0.016311117,0.004172450,-0.007564800,0.002191483,0.003187167,0.002457033,0.005498650,0.002493950,-0.000708900,0.012076550,0.000242417
Guiri_ColorMedio,0.127173900,0.142229767,0.049875833,0.021443700,0.040900233,0.007210567,0.002080200,0.004740033,0.011103400,0.017480767,-0.004709500,0.005990733,-0.012464633,-0.008004033,0.011022367,0.003898800,-0.003475667,0.003195900,0.002458633,-0.000549533,0.002878400,0.002392167,-0.001701633,0.006681400,-0.000599000
Negroide,-0.580417820,0.070006620,0.017992280,0.007075060,0.002945740,0.005229880,-0.017271800,0.023208900,-0.023864760,0.023601980,0.003959440,-0.004098100,0.009881020,-0.000347880,0.004409280,-0.004457680,0.002281660,0.013838240,-0.010843140,0.002367500,-0.002945580,-0.004106680,0.003299620,0.000528420,-0.000030680

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Interesante :D! Qué es Ibérico Oscuro?

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.5631% / 0.01563088
34.4 Ibérico_Mesetario
23.6 Ibérico_Oscuro
18.8 Ibérico_Saleroso
15.8 Guiri_Claro
5.0 Moruno
1.4 Negroide
1.0 Panchito

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.6483% / 0.01648266 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Ibérico_Oscuro
41.0 Ibérico_Mesetario
10.4 Guiri_Claro
1.8 Ibérico_Saleroso
1.4 Negroide
0.8 Panchito

Quote:

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Mi primer intento de calculadora para G25 (Scaled), especial para peninsulares:

Sed indulgentes!!!

Code:

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Ibérico_Saleroso,0.1096493,0.1496213,0.0349467,-0.0047373,0.0433927,-0.004183,-0.00094,0.0002307,0.0188843,0.0302513,-0.0033563,0.0060943,-0.0142217,-0.0155517,0.006831,-0.0045083,-0.0028683,-0.0005913,-0.0023463,-0.0044603,0.0038267,-0.001113,-0.0011503,-0.0041367,-0.0003593
Ibérico_LevantaPiedras,0.128241,0.1516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
Ibérico_MedioGuiri,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
Ibérico_Mesetario,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Ibérico_Oscuro,0.081953,0.1452205,0.0324325,-0.015827,0.042777,-0.009901,-0.00329,0.0043845,0.0302695,0.030069,-0.0003245,0.0047205,-0.0110755,-0.0139,0.016965,-0.0118665,-0.009388,-0.0055745,-0.0098675,-0.0016885,-0.000749,-0.0072335,0.0002465,-0.0054825,0.0017365
Ibérico_Melancólico,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Moruno,-0.06567898,0.13356888,-0.0092498,-0.0762153,0.02251074,-0.03409864,-0.028502,0.00764518,0.06538102,0.02575472,0.00744612,-0.00769706,0.02457482,-0.01388018,0.01651156,-0.01250064,-0.00322548,-0.02020836,-0.04102588,0.0098647,-0.01315984,-0.03473298,0.02297862,-0.00255752,0.00493804
Chinorri,0.021341900,-0.421613600,-0.007793850,-0.047507900,0.048598850,0.023124850,0.003446650,0.001865350,-0.003187150,0.004464650,-0.058229900,-0.007543600,0.007296650,-0.001995600,-0.007114000,-0.000762500,0.005389150,-0.001213900,-0.007437250,-0.001427650,0.007247850,0.020175900,0.007939100,0.001827500,0.021145600
Malacatones,0.046189200,-0.057078220,-0.144754480,0.096559380,-0.069009980,0.052907800,0.000897460,0.009768740,0.031643920,0.018810740,-0.004180700,-0.000887640,0.000537620,0.000019720,-0.000789020,0.002519640,0.002783900,0.000297180,0.000087180,-0.000482300,0.002426980,-0.001045500,-0.000854920,-0.001358380,-0.000188520
Panchito,0.054656733,-0.296815100,0.112245567,0.091282867,-0.103107833,-0.016778400,-0.270709867,-0.324674300,-0.011157233,-0.014955500,-0.004025700,-0.00414210,0.001292533,0.018729767,-0.007696000,0.001877733,0.005272633,0.000012033,0.001084667,-0.000565800,-0.002672733,0.005796400,0.000120900,-0.000687333,-0.000742400
Guiri_BastanteClaro,0.132282600,0.135756333,0.061161633,0.046106467,0.039345667,0.017600733,0.003287900,0.005447133,0.004327533,0.003295600,-0.005661400,0.005521833,-0.012989233,-0.012292100,0.022989067,0.004551400,-0.010343533,0.002445067,0.002128700,0.001599100,0.004794667,0.002794767,-0.000341533,0.013182367,0.000368333
Guiri_Claro,0.130459417,0.134268700,0.061847367,0.044914783,0.039894650,0.017420117,0.005004867,0.006758567,0.004519683,0.002044850,-0.005101800,0.004013867,-0.008432800,-0.007353583,0.016311117,0.004172450,-0.007564800,0.002191483,0.003187167,0.002457033,0.005498650,0.002493950,-0.000708900,0.012076550,0.000242417
Guiri_ColorMedio,0.127173900,0.142229767,0.049875833,0.021443700,0.040900233,0.007210567,0.002080200,0.004740033,0.011103400,0.017480767,-0.004709500,0.005990733,-0.012464633,-0.008004033,0.011022367,0.003898800,-0.003475667,0.003195900,0.002458633,-0.000549533,0.002878400,0.002392167,-0.001701633,0.006681400,-0.000599000
Negroide,-0.580417820,0.070006620,0.017992280,0.007075060,0.002945740,0.005229880,-0.017271800,0.023208900,-0.023864760,0.023601980,0.003959440,-0.004098100,0.009881020,-0.000347880,0.004409280,-0.004457680,0.002281660,0.013838240,-0.010843140,0.002367500,-0.002945580,-0.004106680,0.003299620,0.000528420,-0.000030680

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Sin penalización es más divertido.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.4728% / 0.02472764
47.8 Ibérico_Saleroso
28.8 Ibérico_Mesetario
14.8 Ibérico_LevantaPiedras
3.2 Ibérico_Oscuro
2.4 Malacatones
1.2 Moruno
1.2 Negroide
0.6 Chinorri

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.5220% / 0.02522019 | ADC: 0.25x
48.0 Ibérico_Mesetario
41.4 Ibérico_Saleroso
8.0 Ibérico_Oscuro
1.6 Malacatones
0.6 Negroide
0.4 Chinorri

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6771% / 0.02677070 | ADC: 0.5x
55.4 Ibérico_Mesetario
30.4 Ibérico_Saleroso
13.4 Ibérico_Oscuro
0.8 Malacatones

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Pedro Ruben

Interesante :D! Qué es Ibérico Oscuro?

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Ibérico oscuro es ...Canario

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

Sin penalización es más divertido.

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The ha salido Malacatones!!!

Quote:

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Ibérico oscuro es ...Canario

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Jajajaja si, ya me parecia :p

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.3540% / 0.02354010
54.8 Ibérico_Melancólico
21.2 Guiri_ColorMedio
9.6 Ibérico_MedioGuiri
8.2 Ibérico_Saleroso
5.0 Guiri_BastanteClaro
1.2 Chinorri


Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.3620% / 0.02361964 | ADC: 0.25x
60.6 Ibérico_Melancólico
29.6 Guiri_ColorMedio
9.0 Ibérico_MedioGuiri
0.8 Chinorri

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5038% / 0.02503788 | ADC: 1x
65.2 Ibérico_Melancólico
34.8 Ibérico_MedioGuiri

Iberico melancolico es portugues?
Guiri color medio es frances?
Iberico medio guiri balear?
Guiri bastante claro aleman?
Chinorri de Albacete?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Mi primer intento de calculadora para G25 (Scaled), especial para peninsulares:

Sed indulgentes!!!

Code:

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Ibérico_Saleroso,0.1096493,0.1496213,0.0349467,-0.0047373,0.0433927,-0.004183,-0.00094,0.0002307,0.0188843,0.0302513,-0.0033563,0.0060943,-0.0142217,-0.0155517,0.006831,-0.0045083,-0.0028683,-0.0005913,-0.0023463,-0.0044603,0.0038267,-0.001113,-0.0011503,-0.0041367,-0.0003593
Ibérico_LevantaPiedras,0.128241,0.1516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
Ibérico_MedioGuiri,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
Ibérico_Mesetario,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Ibérico_Oscuro,0.081953,0.1452205,0.0324325,-0.015827,0.042777,-0.009901,-0.00329,0.0043845,0.0302695,0.030069,-0.0003245,0.0047205,-0.0110755,-0.0139,0.016965,-0.0118665,-0.009388,-0.0055745,-0.0098675,-0.0016885,-0.000749,-0.0072335,0.0002465,-0.0054825,0.0017365
Ibérico_Melancólico,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Moruno,-0.06567898,0.13356888,-0.0092498,-0.0762153,0.02251074,-0.03409864,-0.028502,0.00764518,0.06538102,0.02575472,0.00744612,-0.00769706,0.02457482,-0.01388018,0.01651156,-0.01250064,-0.00322548,-0.02020836,-0.04102588,0.0098647,-0.01315984,-0.03473298,0.02297862,-0.00255752,0.00493804
Chinorri,0.021341900,-0.421613600,-0.007793850,-0.047507900,0.048598850,0.023124850,0.003446650,0.001865350,-0.003187150,0.004464650,-0.058229900,-0.007543600,0.007296650,-0.001995600,-0.007114000,-0.000762500,0.005389150,-0.001213900,-0.007437250,-0.001427650,0.007247850,0.020175900,0.007939100,0.001827500,0.021145600
Malacatones,0.046189200,-0.057078220,-0.144754480,0.096559380,-0.069009980,0.052907800,0.000897460,0.009768740,0.031643920,0.018810740,-0.004180700,-0.000887640,0.000537620,0.000019720,-0.000789020,0.002519640,0.002783900,0.000297180,0.000087180,-0.000482300,0.002426980,-0.001045500,-0.000854920,-0.001358380,-0.000188520
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If I use 1x it's too distant ;_;

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Distance: 2.9799% / 0.02979891
75.8        Guiri_BastanteClaro
10.6        Guiri_Claro
8.0        Ibérico_LevantaPiedras
4.6        Ibérico_Oscuro
1.0        Negroide

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Thank you

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Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Iberico melancolico es portugues?
Guiri color medio es frances?
Iberico medio guiri balear?
Guiri bastante claro aleman?
Chinorri de Albacete?

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Preguntas demasiado!!!

El Ibérico melancólico es portugués tirando para arriba, por supuesto.

Chinorri es asiático indeterminado.

El Ibérico medio guiri eso un 1/2 mesetario+2 guiris diferentesa mi elección.

los diferentes tipos de guiri eran de +oscuro a +claro, un Francés intermedio, un Alemán y un islas británicas intermedio

No me atrevo aún a tocar mucho cada coordenada hasta que no sepa seguro a qué corresponde cada una.

Me gustaron los nombres dados a las muestras, muy creativos y divertidos. :rofl:

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.8546% / 0.01854561
54.4 Ibérico_Saleroso
28.0 Ibérico_Mesetario
9.8 Guiri_ColorMedio
5.8 Moruno
2.0 Negroide


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.9484% / 0.01948426 | ADC: 0.25x
46.2 Ibérico_Saleroso
28.6 Ibérico_Mesetario
20.8 Ibérico_Oscuro
2.2 Ibérico_Melancólico
2.0 Negroide
0.2 Moruno

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Originally Posted by gixajo

The ha salido Malacatones!!!

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¿gitano? :lol:

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Originally Posted by PT Tagus

Me gustaron los nombres dados a las muestras, muy creativos y divertidos. :rofl:

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Solo era por innovar un poco, creo que nadie se puede sentir ofendido por ninguno, no?

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Originally Posted by PT Tagus

¿gitano? :lol:

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Más o menos, esa era la idea.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Solo era por innovar un poco, creo que nadie se puede sentir ofendido por ninguno, no?

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Por supuesto, no me ofende.
Debo suponer que el ibérico melancólico es portugués, ¿verdad? :lol:

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Originally Posted by PT Tagus

Por supuesto, no me ofende.
Debo suponer que el ibérico melancólico es portugués, ¿verdad? :lol:

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Ese es el más obvio de todos, portugués tirando para Galicia, sí.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Más o menos, esa era la idea.

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No encuentro de donde es esa coordenada, ya estás haciendo experimentos raros. Con melocotones por supuesto.

A ver, he tardado 10 minutos , tampoco se le pueden pedir peras al olmo...

Iré añadiendo más poblaciones, es solo una prueba más que nada.

Lo siento, pero tengo demasiado tiempo libre...:picard1:

Tampoco es tan horrible, no? Necesito opiniones sinceras.

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

No encuentro de donde es esa coordenada, ya estás haciendo experimentos raros. Con melocotones por supuesto.

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La idea es hacer medias de coordenadas, y no de la misma source. Es básicamente de la India, más tirando al suroeste.

Estas no están necesariamente cambiadas respecto a las originales.

A mi me ha gustado, pero pondría cosas mas ofensivas. Que hagan daño de verdad jajaja