Yup, they are. It means you share genetic similarities between you and the ancient Minoans who had significant west asian ancestry in their genepool.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME
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Yup, they are. It means you share genetic similarities between you and the ancient Minoans who had significant west asian ancestry in their genepool.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME
We match the same samples:Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamm
Minoan Lasithi
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 24.547
Sample Match! 96% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi
mtDNA Haplogroup: H1bm
Y-DNA Haplogroup: J2a1
Genetic Distance: 36.677
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi
mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 25.201
Sample Match! 97% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 25.449
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira
mtDNA Haplogroup: L3'4
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 33.760
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira
mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 34.400
Sample Match! 97% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 21.940
Sample Match! 96% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitria
mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a
Genetic Distance: 30.889
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitria
mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 31.537
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users
Can I see your DNA results?Quote:
Originally Posted by whoibe
Which calc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamm
I match all the Minoans
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Minoan Lasithi
I0071 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Deep Dive Match! 31% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 16.946
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Lasithi
I0073 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H1bm
Y-DNA Haplogroup: J2a1
Genetic Distance: 29.791
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Lasithi
I0074 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 18.809
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Lasithi
I9005 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 17.155
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Moni Odigitira
I9127 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: L3'4
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 31.093
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Moni Odigitira
I9128 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 29.875
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Moni Odigitira
I9129 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 15.662
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Moni Odigitria
I9130 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a
Genetic Distance: 22.670
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
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Minoan Moni Odigitria
I9131 (2000 BC)
mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 24.076
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
I mean autosomal results (23andMe/MyHeritage/Ancestry).Quote:
Originally Posted by whoibe
MH:Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamm
Middle Eastern 37.3%
Mizrahi Jewish Iranian/Iraqi 17.4%
Greek and South Italian 14.1%
North African 13.7%
Italian 6%
Ashkenazi 2.7%
Nigerian 2.7%
West Asian 2.6%
South Asian 2.1%
Central Asian 1.4%
This is very correct. The problem is that the Finnish history research is in a big crisis. Few Finnish historians have courage today to search times before the 14th century, because all dominant theories have been based on linguistics since the 80s and linguists say that Finns came from Urals. Today Finnish linguists say that the Finns came from Urals, not only Finnic languages. The problem is that Germanic loan words in Baltic Finnic languages are too old to serve these peculiar ideas. So, if you want to be a reputable researcher in Finland you have to deny many things, including archaeological evidences, be quietly or fabricate stories, for instance how Germans hail from Volga and were pushed to Scandinavia and Germany by Finnic warriors. This is something that can work in a small linguistic area, because these clowns hold two realities, one in home land and another abroad. Bad thing is that Finnish geneticists have to follow if they want to be reputable researchers in Finland, because our universities are small and you have to ensure your career.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
Heikka, the ancestor of all I1 men today, lived 4600 years ago. The timing coincides with the arrival of the indo-European steppe herders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen
Al-Andalus + Frank (4.503)
Frank + Illyrian (5.195)
Gaul + Al-Andalus (5.933)
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.28)
Visigoth + Frank (6.468)
Illyrian (8.933)
Frank (10.42)
Gaul (11.69)
Al-Andalus (12.07)
Visigoth (12.5)
Only problem is that almost all paternal haplogroups went through a genetic bottle neck around 5000 years ago. For that reason we have to find ancient samples to find out where did our ancestors lived and where they came from. Some random Neolithic or Mesolithic I1 samples have been found, all from Europe outside steppe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/11...ixture-in.htmlQuote:
In calendar dates, Finns are estimated to have mixed with an East Eurasian CDX-like population between 170BC-320AD and with a NW European GBR-like population between 1100-1380AD.
The central date of the latter estimate is 1,240AD, which corresponds quite closely to the beginning of Swedish rule and is in the middle of the 13th. century, between the time when Finland was initially claimed for western Christendom (12th c.) and the time when the conflict between Sweden and Russia was settled (14th c.).
Anywho here are my top matches:
https://i.imgur.com/0xlzew8.png
https://i.imgur.com/sVVoq8D.png
https://i.imgur.com/Cum13rO.png
https://i.imgur.com/EJR9O6x.png
https://i.imgur.com/LYaGeMk.png
https://i.imgur.com/u5XKK72.png
https://i.imgur.com/WCsD4Cy.png
https://i.imgur.com/iv5RR3L.png
https://i.imgur.com/qCqtQiq.png
Ancient Populations (Updated)
Code:Saxon + Frank (4.336)
Saxon (4.393)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.5)
Viking Danish + Saxon (4.568)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.601)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (4.612)
Viking Danish (5.984)
Frank (6.819)
Visigoth (7.729)
Vandal (8.684)
My updated ancient populations as well:
kit 1
Celt + Frank (4.869)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.463)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (5.788)
Celt + Saxon (5.892)
Celt (6.539)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.725)
Frank (10.13)
Viking Icelandic (10.34)
Viking Danish (10.4)
Saxon (10.79)
Kit 2
Viking Icelandic + Celt (5.376)
Celt + Frank (6.167)
Celt (6.297)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (6.305)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.609)
Viking Danish + Frank (7.404)
Viking Danish (8.925)
Frank (9.409)
Saxon (10.83)
Viking Icelandic (12.29)
Dienekes is a poor author in this case. All glory for him in many matters, but he has a little clue regarding the Finnish history. Simply taking into account Finnish I1, no other female or male haplogroups, we can say that D. was too straightforward and simplified his results to correspond his point of view. Finnish I1 is a son of the Scandinavian L22-CTS2208 branch and is in Finland exclusively around 2000 years old. The result is proven by FtDna's Big-Y results and Y-Full. He made also an error with Siberian-Finnish admixture timings; his conclusion was that the source was Nganasan, it might be of same ancestry, but the method he used gives same dates for all Siberian-Finnish admixtures, no matter who the Siberians are, they can be Chukchi as well. This happens because small IBD's he used tend to approximate statistic noise.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
Kit 1:
Seleucid + Gaul (10.8)
Hellenic Roman + Gepid (11.87)
Seleucid + Roman (11.95)
Seleucid + Gepid (12.08)
Roman + Gepid (12.15)
Roman (15.06)
Seleucid (16.77)
Hellenic Roman (17.72)
Gaul (17.77)
Gepid (18.39)
Kit 2:
Hellenic Roman + Gepid (14.7)
Pontic + Gepid (15.64)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (15.83)
Seleucid + Gepid (16.06)
Seleucid + Roman (16.1)
Hellenic Roman (18.68)
Roman (18.97)
Seleucid (19.74)
My updated ancient ancestry
Roman + Kievan Rus (6.278)
Scythian + Roman (9.228)
Gaul + Kievan Rus (12.32)
Scythian + Gaul (13.67)
Thuringii + Kievan Rus (14.11)
Scythian (15.07)
Gaul (17.39)
Roman (19.32)
Who is this 5th century Gepid Goth, any info, any autosomal results?
https://i.imgur.com/Ezu8BJm.png
Gaul + Kievan Rus (9.715)
Thuringii + Kievan Rus (11.42)
Scythian + Gaul (11.69)
Gaul + Avar (11.82)
Scythian + Kievan Rus (12.28)
Scythian (12.85)
Gaul (16.24)
Avar (17.48)
Kievan Rus (18.0)
Thuringii (18.6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
Gepid_Serbia_ACD:VIM_2
Balkans_IA,35.2
Nordic_IA,28.6
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta,26.4
Han,6
Nganassan,3.8
Yes that’s because the ratio of women to men was like 20:1Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen
I don't buy this. It was more about male clans. Men were relatives, because the world was cruel and warlike. They had to have trust and relatives protected each other. Still today cruel and lawless organizations prefer "blood brothers". Some European male haplogroups died almost out, some survived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
I got that info from the fb group that i see you're a part of so i wondered what are your thoughts. I think it's not true either especially the man's name, Heikka. How would anyone know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen
My father got a Gold Laurel wreath for his exceptional relationship with the Hohol
https://i.imgur.com/Ya7xZQO.png
New match for me.
7. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... Genetic Distance 6.597 - Linton -
Top 88% match vs all users
This individual was a 50+ year old female buried in a shallow oval grave near the Linton settlement near Cambridge. The burial was aligned north to south, and she was laid on her right side with head facing west. She was approximately 1.58m tall and had Osteoarthritis and spondylosis deformans in her spine and wrist. Enamel hypoplasia indicates she had experienced health stress during childhood.
Closest Ancient
Celt + Saxon (3.637)
Celt + Vandal (3.828)
Celt + Frank (4.023)
Vandal + Saxon (4.161)
Longobard + Saxon (4.299)
Saxon (4.331)
Vandal (6.557)
Celt (7.647)
Longobard (8.3)
Frank (8.65)
Closest Modern
1. Southwest_English (4.808)
2. Southeast_English (5.292)
3. West_Scottish (5.767)
4. Orcadian (5.884)
5. Welsh (6.112)
6. North_Dutch (6.237)
7. Irish (6.317)
8. Danish (6.381)
Similar Samples
Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) (3.103)
Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (3.943)
Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) (4.217)
Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) (4.331)
Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) (4.907)
Haplogroups
mtDNA: H1e
Updated closest Ancient populations
Visigoth + Saxon (3.073)
Viking Danish + Frank (3.099)
Saxon + Frank (3.367)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.392)
Saxon (3.555)
Viking Danish + Saxon (3.626)
Viking Danish (5.199)
Frank (5.83)
Visigoth (7.0)
Vandal (8.529)
Updated Ancient Sample Breakdown:
Saxons 19.3%
Celts 16.2%
Danish Vikings 13.2%
Longobards 12.1%
Vikings Swedish 10%
Franks 9.51%
Vandals 5.64%
Norwegian Vikings 5.45%
Visigoths 3.59%
Ostrogoths 3.01%
Vikings Icelandic 1.67%
Germanic 83.47%
Celtic 16.2%
Other? 0.24%
Modern Populations Updated
Code:1. Southwest_English (4.893)
2. Welsh (4.923)
3. Southeast_English (5.438)
4. Flemish (6.008)
5. South_Dutch (6.697)
6. Danish (7.055)
7. Irish (7.060)
8. North_Dutch (7.109)
Ancient Populations Update
Gaul + Frank (3.741)
Visigoth + Frank (4.351)
Visigoth + Gaul (5.184)
Frank (5.269)
Scythian + Frank (5.887)
Thuringii + Frank (6.135)
Gaul (7.082)
Visigoth (8.484)
Thuringii (9.386)
Scythian (12.65)
Modern Populations Update
1. South_Dutch (8.117)
2. West_German (8.120)
3. Flemish (8.163)
4. French (9.238)
5. East_German (11.05)
6. North_German (11.17)
7. Austrian (11.51)
8. Hungarian (11.99)
I got gold sheath for this Avar sample.
Avar
590 AD
AV1
mtDNA: X2m'n ?
You are a top 96% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.
I never noticed these before, apparently I am #2 for a Scotland match from the Bronze AgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dick
https://i.imgur.com/g5Fu9A4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sXSxb9K.jpg
https://youtu.be/uhLCSjrtDzgQuote:
Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean
How is that possible to have 28 cM with an ancient sample? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean
180 and 50 XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
https://i.imgur.com/YQHBXpF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CGVTi7W.jpg
4th Cousin 100x removed :p :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
I don't know who is Heikka and nothing about his/her opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Historians know many genocides and also haplogroup replacements in Europe, the biggest one was when R1a and R1b replaced western G and I2.
Breaking my ancient Germanic ancestry down into clearer sub-categories
North Germanic - Norsemen
33.91% Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, Gothic (Visigoths)
North Sea Germanic - Ingvaeonic peoples
19.3% Saxons
Elbe Germanic - Herminonic/Irminonic peoples
12.1% Longobards
Weser-Rhine Germanic - Istvaeonic peoples
9.57% Franks
East Germanic - Vandilic
8.65% Vandals, Gothic (Ostrogoths)
The Truest Illyrian in TA :victory0:
https://i.ibb.co/5rqqwLv/proto-Illyrian.jpg
Bosniensis will commit suicideQuote:
Originally Posted by Gaditanian
https://media.giphy.com/media/HyDAt79JnlY4M/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Dick