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Hay una herramienta de Geneplaza por 9€ que según afirman detectan la ascendencia antigua y lo separan en 5 componentes, si te interesa:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
https://www.geneplaza.com/app-store/77/preview
Ahora podremos demostrar lo poco blanco que somos y hacernos las victimas con imparcialidad.
Un tema con resultados:
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....a-K5-Admixture
Gracias tío, se ve un poco básica, de hecho, yo tengo 2 calculadoras compradas en geneplaza y mi opinión es que son una puta basura :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
El que si me llama muchísimo es el de genomelink porque el dueño del algoritmo gano unos premios por sus investigaciones, es venezolano por cierto. He estado estos días tentadisimo a hacerlo.
Otro que estoy pensando es en pagar una actualización en 24genetics con la nueva raw data que tengo, muy potente.
Si me llama la atención es precisamente por su simpleza para ver cuánto tengo en total de cada uno, no es necesario dividirlo en 100 componentes supuestamente diferentes. Pero me parece caro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
Lo del Genomelink habría que ver más resultados, 24genetics no costaba 50€?
El Mortimer tiene un thread con resultados del genomelink y literal le coincide bastante con el G25 pero una que otra cosa cambia, el dueño del algoritmo estará usando el estepario, neolítico y cazador adecuados a mi suposición, y no basado en coordenadas. Solo he visto ese y el que tienen de muestra, pero ni en anthrogenica he visto otro. El de 24genetics la actualización cuesta 20 EUR, por eso me lo estoy pensando.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Este tu que opinás, valdrá la pena? No dice en que está basado cada componente y el dueño del algoritmo?
Ni idea de si vale la pena, pero como dije cuantos menos componentes mejor. Intenta que más gente pruebe con Genomelink :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
COpio y pego del otro foro:
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Curioso como funciona esa media.Distancias algo grandes (por usar 2 muestras antiguas), pero marca bastante bien el NA creo.
Modern Averages Scaled:Code:NorthAfrican,-0.0982410,0.1156536,-0.0115964,-0.0765705,0.0290596,-0.0421056,-0.0433429,0.0116640,0.0979376,0.0206679,0.0118539,-0.0152635,0.0386862,-0.0281847,0.0370617,-0.0207645,0.0018658,-0.0356585,-0.0769637,0.0198640,-0.0222715,-0.0675282,0.0403173,-0.0059601,0.0086715
Target: NorthAfrican
Distance: 5.1524% / 0.05152396
98.6 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.6 Koinanbe
0.4 Luzon
0.4 Piapoco
Target: NorthAfrican
Distance: 5.1725% / 0.05172512 | ADC: 0.25x
99.4 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.4 Bajo
0.2 Australian
Distance to: NorthAfrican
0.05208337 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.05775070 Saharawi
0.06921065 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.08421526 Mozabite
0.08723497 Moroccan
0.10027091 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.10118266 Algerian
0.10899561 Moroccan_North
0.11071955 Berber_ALG_Chaoui
0.11154933 Tunisian
0.11169503 Berber_Zenatan
0.11494579 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.11899619 Moroccan_South
0.12841262 Libyan
0.17536184 Egyptian
0.19824192 Eritrean
0.20317813 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.20814386 Ethiopian_Afar
0.20978869 BedouinA
0.21132636 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.21155487 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.21905484 Ethiopian_Jew
0.22234903 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.22642393 Palestinian
0.22714517 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
Sin embargo, por lo menos con mi madre , mi padre y yo mismo, nos desaparece todo el NA usándolo con estas sources:
Target: gixajo_scaledCode:NorthAfrican,-0.0982410,0.1156536,-0.0115964,-0.0765705,0.0290596,-0.0421056,-0.0433429,0.0116640,0.0979376,0.0206679,0.0118539,-0.0152635,0.0386862,-0.0281847,0.0370617,-0.0207645,0.0018658,-0.0356585,-0.0769637,0.0198640,-0.0222715,-0.0675282,0.0403173,-0.0059601,0.0086715
Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia,0.10746950,0.14553650,0.03853550,-0.00304150,0.04167050,-0.00207100,-0.00459900,0.00259150,0.02515550,0.02988500,-0.00143150,0.00657900,-0.01267400,-0.01171000,0.01185050,0.00009550,-0.00268450,-0.00152400,-0.00540200,-0.00062600,0.00100550,-0.00273550,0.00024650,-0.00240750,0.00059950
Iberian:North_Iberia,0.12242300,0.14849267,0.04831367,0.00441433,0.04920567,-0.00158033,-0.00117500,0.00112833,0.02542900,0.03776333,-0.00550333,0.00982467,-0.01831833,-0.01532200,0.01438633,0.00066300,-0.00819967,0.00174567,-0.00188533,-0.00464133,0.00506033,0.00028867,-0.00647733,-0.00282500,0.00303367
Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia,0.11628950,0.14543250,0.04336900,0.00072050,0.04682900,-0.00072050,-0.00201750,0.00200900,0.02276150,0.03187600,-0.00244950,0.00846100,-0.01443250,-0.01149150,0.00923450,0.00037000,-0.00267300,-0.00168400,-0.00118350,-0.00093800,0.00588550,-0.00354950,-0.00297350,-0.00353450,0.00150700
Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia,0.10646733,0.14688233,0.03492500,-0.00301667,0.04277467,-0.00423167,-0.00322200,0.00147333,0.02499733,0.03070867,-0.00139567,0.00657967,-0.01218267,-0.01163967,0.01011833,-0.00009600,-0.00321833,-0.00176033,-0.00547800,-0.00065367,0.00206267,-0.00287133,-0.00071667,-0.00307933,0.00107233
Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia,0.11097733,0.14567500,0.03798667,-0.00415933,0.04427033,-0.00425333,-0.00287600,0.00034833,0.02487300,0.03243767,-0.00255833,0.00645767,-0.01361933,-0.01153233,0.00841333,-0.00166133,-0.00373200,-0.00014500,-0.00148333,-0.00060700,0.00447000,-0.00091833,-0.00123267,-0.00407733,0.00092767
Distance: 1.7087% / 0.01708716
50.6 Iberian:North_Iberia
26.6 Iberian:Center
16.8 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
6.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.0 NorthAfrican
0.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7099% / 0.01709909 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Iberian:North_Iberia
31.2 Iberian:Center
10.8 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
10.4 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.0 NorthAfrican
0.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
************************************************** *
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0099% / 0.02009929
83.0 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
17.0 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.0 NorthAfrican
0.0 Iberian:Center
0.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0107% / 0.02010719 | ADC: 0.25x
82.8 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
14.4 Iberian:North_Iberia
2.8 Iberian:Center
0.0 NorthAfrican
0.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
*******************************************
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.9955% / 0.01995544
81.8 Iberian:North_Iberia
18.2 Iberian:Center
0.0 NorthAfrican
0.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.9960% / 0.01995984 | ADC: 0.25x
83.8 Iberian:North_Iberia
16.2 Iberian:Center
0.0 NorthAfrican
0.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.0 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
La media absurda es Mar_Taforalt+la media bereber que hice con muestras modernas bereberes+Guanches.
Ahora haré solo Guanches+Mar_Taforalt, que igual sirve para algo...
Aquí está el bicho, usadlo con cuidado.
AncientNorthAfrican,=Canary_Islands_Guanche,+MAR_T aforalt,Code:AncientNorthAfrican,-0.1146199,0.1064274,-0.0133125,-0.0771647,0.0306826,-0.0457937,-0.0502921,0.0133378,0.1131424,0.0170209,0.0142415,-0.0189132,0.0464861,-0.0345158,0.0472035,-0.0246750,0.0042245,-0.0426560,-0.0933686,0.0246994,-0.0255799,-0.0816232,0.0481405,-0.0074706,0.0105379
Target: AncientNorthAfrican
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000
50.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
50.0 MAR_Taforalt
Yo no me atrevo
Esta media nos sigue dando 0% usándola junto con las referencias de la península que usé antes.:confused: