Eurogenes ANE K7 - post your results

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Originally Posted by Jaxman

Mine. These are my DIY results as the GEDmatch version is still inaccurate.

15.64% ANE
3.11% ASE
56.76% WHG-UHG
1.56% East_Eurasian
0.38% West_African
0.33% East_African
22.21% ENF

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There's obvisouly some noise in there(1.56% east Eurasian?). All Europeans are scoring way to low in ENF. How much EEF did you score in Eurogene's EEF-WHG-ANE calculator? Otzi scored about 60% ENF in this test, so just divide your ENF score by 60, to get an EEF score, and I bet you it's much lower than what you scored in that calculator. Davidiski is getting ANE K=7 results for my uncle using ADMIXTURE. That's what he used for Sardinians who got what look like deadly accurate results. I suggest you ask David to do the same for you.

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Originally Posted by Fire Haired

There's obvisouly some noise in there(1.56% east Eurasian?).

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Why would it be noise? Why can't Europeans have (ancestral) East Eurasian as they have even ancestral South Eurasian, too? Jaxman has Finnish ancestry so that's perfectly logical. My East Eurasian is over 8%.

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Originally Posted by Fire Haired

All Europeans are scoring way to low in ENF.

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No one has claimed ENF is equal to EEF in the previous calculator. EEF had WHG-like admixture.

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Originally Posted by Jusarius

No one has claimed ENF is equal to EEF in the previous calculator. EEF had WHG-like admixture.

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Yes I know that, but Otzi who is just about identical to EEF(Stuttgart) scored ~60% ENF. So, if English scored ~49% EEF in Laz 2013/14 they should score nearly 30% ENF. Also, the WHG component may have some middle eastern farmer in it, so it might be absorbing some ENF.

66.85% WHG-UHG (Western European/Unknown Hunter-Gatherer)
15.27% ANE (Ancient North Eurasian)
14.64% ENF (Early Neolithic Farmer)
2.21% ASE (Ancestral South Eurasian )
0.04% East_Eurasian
0.11% West_African
0.88% East_African

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Originally Posted by Fire Haired

Yes I know that, but Otzi who is just about identical to EEF(Stuttgart) scored ~60% ENF. So, if English scored ~49% EEF in Laz 2013/14 they should score nearly 30% ENF.

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That calculator based on Lazardis et al. included only three components so of course you can't directly compare components from it. Some of the WHG in the 3 components calculator maybe broken into different components in different populations. I mean it's not that simple that you just divide the three components with some fixed numbers as you are suggesting should be the case with the English.

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Originally Posted by Jusarius

That calculator based on Lazardis et al. included only three components so of course you can't directly compare components from it. Some of the WHG in the 3 components calculator maybe broken into different components in different populations. I mean it's not that simple that you just divide the three components with some fixed numbers as you are suggesting should be the case with the English.

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Most Europeans don't have identifiable east Asian ancestry. IF they score in anything besides ENF, WHG, and ANE it's probably noise. Finns and BAlts are scoring almost no ENF, which is ridiculous because they defiantly have a big chunk of that form of ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Fire Haired

IF they score in anything besides ENF, WHG, and ANE it's probably noise. Finns and BAlts are scoring almost no ENF, which is ridiculous because they defiantly have a big chunk of that form of ancestry.

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Again, try to understand that as you increase the resolution (more components), most of the original ones are broken into separate new ones. For example WHG+UHG isn't equal to WHG in Lazardis. No population in Europe perfectly fitted the three populations model of Lazardis which means that the components in that masked something else.

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Originally Posted by Fire Haired

Most Europeans don't have identifiable east Asian ancestry. IF they score in anything besides ENF, WHG, and ANE it's probably noise. Finns and BAlts are scoring almost no ENF, which is ridiculous because they defiantly have a big chunk of that form of ancestry.

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Finns and North Russians do have identifiable East Eurasian ancestry. It can be called ENA (Eastern Non-African) in the words of Laz.

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Originally Posted by Jaxman

Finns and North Russians do have identifiable East Eurasian ancestry. It can be called ENA (Eastern Non-African) in the words of Laz.

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Yes I know that, but if for example Irish are scoring 2% east Eurasian we know that's noise.