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The fact is that the Indo-Europeans initially had a Siberian component through their ancestors - eastern hunter-gatherers. Pay attention to the graph, EHG carries a rather large Siberian component - at least 5-10% by eye. In calculators, it is hidden, only an additional late admixture appears. SSA, unfortunately, is absent from the Indo-Europeans initially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo
https://i.ibb.co/WDFRH0Q/EHG.jpg
I am not discussing anything of that. I laughed like a crazy because according Lemminkainen people focus on the Mongol ancestry of N. Europeans but not the enough about the MENA-SSA ancestry in Spaniards/Portuguese... WHICH IS FALSE AS FUCK. This forum has 60989823249 millions of threads about the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
True. EHG contains some 40-60% ANE.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugochaves
I find those statements in this thread that "GEDmatch" does show X% Siberian somewhat arbitrary:
First, GEDmatch contains more than 30 different calculators.
Second, at Eurogens K13 I get 2.04% Siberian. What that means can just be found out by comparing results of people with known ancestry. However, it can not just be taken for face value.
What next? You're going to ask if Spaniards or "Mediterraneans" of Southern and Eastern Europe have "Negroid" DNA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
Because Eupedia says so?
:roll eyes:banging head:hitler::argue::Pruegelknabe::banghead::stop:s milie_stop::smilie_stop::smilie_stop::smilie_stop:
Even our friend, who was managing director of Chanel Spain, wouldn't go that far, and all he said, when I visited him decades ago in his lovely apartment, was that the Spaniards are, quote, "the most Asiatic", meaning among the Europeans.
Seriously, Gypsy...Quote:
Originally Posted by VIK LEWA
How are the Spanish the most Asiatics? They're certainly not the most mongoloid, those are the Finns, and some Russians, now, if by "asiatic" he meant MENA, then also false, because the most MENA people in Europe are the Greeks and Southern Italians.Quote:
Originally Posted by VIK LEWA
The simple answer is no. :no::eusa_naughty::fhmm:
I'm going through the calculators right now to see or to determine exactly what amount or what level of East or South Asian ancestry they have or the amount of East or South Asian genes they carry or they might carry. In the meantime, let's look at the "Mehrgarh Detailed Version" Calculator as one example.
https://ibb.co/2MSqXnQ, https://archive.is/TYlUj/7e8710127a9...66a30f047d.png
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Swedish (Average): East Asia (IA): 0
Swedish (Average): Peninsular India (LM): 0
Ukrainian (Average): East Asia (IA): 0
Ukrainian (Average): Peninsular India (LM): 0
Swedes and Ukrainians don't carry any East Asian genes.
More and more, the only ones that seem to be carrying those genes are the Ukrainian Cossacks, in particular the Kuban Cossacks, and Dnipro Ukrainians are also carrying detectable traces of them. In Sweden, Gotlanders seem to be the ones carrying detectable traces of alien genetic material.
Gotland VA o (Average): East Asia (IA): 8
Gotland VA o (Average): Peninsular India (LM): 0.2
Cossack Kuban (Average): East Asia (IA): 3.4
Cossack Ukrainian (Average) East Asia (IA): 0.2
Ukrainian Dnipro (Average): East Asia (IA): 0.6
Calculator: ATLAS Upper Paleolithic for Global Populations
https://i.ibb.co/VWztCr2/screencapture.png, https://archive.is/qfl3r/51a07a68ed9...2ec1397dea.png
Modern East Asian
Swedish ► Average: 0
Gotland VA o ► Average: 2.2
Gotland VA ► Average: 0
Ukrainian ► Average: 0
Cossack Ukrainian ► Average: 0
Cossack Kuban ► Average: 0
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I think that your Siberia in gedmatch is a noise that means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rothaer
If you start to delve into antiquity, the question arises how the races of people are connected with these ancient components. For example, the Portuguese and the Balts-the two extreme European populations do not differ much in the components of the Bronze Age, but their appearance is completely different. I think the racial formation of the European peoples went on independently of each other. Western populations having the same composition of farmers and hunters have a different history of racial formation. I hope my English was clear.)Quote:
Originally Posted by rothaer