What is the proto-germanic haplogroup ? I1 or R-U106 ?

http://www.cichw1.net/seafapics/protomapironx7.JPG

http://www.worldology.com/Europe/ima...e_germanic.jpg

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Originally Posted by Vojvod

http://www.cichw1.net/seafapics/protomapironx7.JPG

http://www.worldology.com/Europe/ima...e_germanic.jpg

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Map means nothing but if that can console you.:thumb001:

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Originally Posted by Lawalye

Germanic languages is an indo-european language while I1 is a pre-indo-european population, the R-U106 are obviously the proto-germanic who settled in Scandinavia and mixed.

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If you are so adamant that R-U106 is proto-germanic than why bother opening a thread to discuss lol

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Originally Posted by Lawalye

Guapo, all is there:



Germanic languages is an indo-european language while I1 is a pre-indo-european population, the R-U106 are obviously the proto-germanic who settled in Scandinavia and mixed.

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Proto-language can be placed in a small region at start, first contacts proto-Germanic had was with proto-Finnic.
Looking at linguistics and genetics most likely regions are, Svealand, Gotland and SW Finland.

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Originally Posted by Vojvod

If you are so adamant that R-U106 is proto-germanic than why bother opening a thread to discuss lol

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I'm waiting for a serious proof that I'm wrong.

In fact, it's endless debate because germanic culture was created by the hybridation of both group.

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Originally Posted by Lawalye

I'm waiting for a serious proof that I'm wrong.

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You're too obnoxious to believe anything else other that your pompous self inflated French ego. Read Äijä's posts and stop quoting me.

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Originally Posted by Vojvod

You're too obnoxious to believe anything else other that your pompous self inflated French ego. Read Äijä's posts and stop quoting me.

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Guapovitch, already butthurt.

Äijä's post doesn't prove that R-U106 isn't at the origin of the proto-germanic languages.

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Originally Posted by Lawalye

Guapovitch, already butthurt.

Äijä's post doesn't prove that R-U106 isn't at the origin of the proto-germanic languages.

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I have no reason to be butthurt but apparently you are by me for whatever sick reason is in your head concerning this petty issue considering you keep quoting me.

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Originally Posted by Lawalye

Guapovitch, already butthurt.

Äijä's post doesn't prove that R-U106 isn't at the origin of the proto-germanic languages.

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Uppsala is a good pick for ground zero and I would focus at the I1 and N1c more than R-U106 that fits with Geats that where always under the King at Uppsala.

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Medieval Scandinavians held Gamla Uppsala as one of the oldest and most important locations in Scandinavia.

The Danish chronicler Saxo Grammaticus held Odin himself to have resided in Gamla Uppsala far back in the mists of time:

At this time there was one Odin, who was credited over all Europe with the honour, which was false, of godhead, but used more continually to sojourn at Uppsala; and in this spot, either from the sloth of the inhabitants or from its own pleasantness, he vouchsafed to dwell with somewhat especial constancy.[10]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamla_Uppsala

Swedish Haplogroup Database

The distribution of haplogroups across regions and counties for the oldest known ancestors

http://www.dna.scangen.se/index.php?...database=other