Central Asian paternal Y-DNA mtDNA ( Turkish chart ) Mongoloid Caucasian Turks haplogroups

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Originally Posted by Rethel

No, you are not.
Often you also too often change your mind depending what you
actually find on interent, so the more you write, the more I dont
consider it as worthy. No offense, but it looks like that, and even
do not read - as many. Try to be more briefly, coherent and concret.

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Hahaha, you can't even spell correct.

You cannot refute what I find. You always talk what you believe most.

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E was originaly dark, as dark are Natufians, Egyptians and Berbers, and as majority of related to it hgs are.
The level of darkness is irrelevant, becasue every tribe was developing separatly and differently.

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So you're telling me haplogroup E is not negroid but haplogroup D is ? Natufians, Egyptians, Berbers is nowhere as dark as Bantu Africans.

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But they have main D subclade, and it is huge majority.
They have also some P which have also negritios from Philippines.

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The only Negritoes with haplogroup D is the Jawara people, the other Negritoes from Southeast Asia and India have none of that D haplogroup.

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Did I say something about M?
I don;t care about it.

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This tells me you only study their Y-DNA and not their mtDNA.

mtDNA M is 100x bigger in Asia than Y-DNA D. If you think the origin of D is negroid than the same would go with M.



In other words is like saying 1/3 to 3/4 of people of Asia have negritid origin markers if you include both D and M.

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Why should I be, if I didn;t say anything about it?

mt hgs often do not have one particular origin, because women did not make tribes.

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That's exactly the problem. People like you think you know a lot but reality is you sometimes lack commonsense and logic.

mtDNA make up at least 50% of our DNA some even say as much as 70%. Adamanese like Jarawa are 100% Australoid by DNA and than's due both of their Y-DNA and mtDNA. So you're making big mistake not including mtDNA in the discussion.

Did you post this thread to prove Central Asia is a very mixed region?

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Originally Posted by The Nerd

Did you post this thread to prove Central Asia is a very mixed region?

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We all already know Central Asia is mixed even without DNA study.

I just want people to challenge my claims.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

Hahaha, you can't even spell correct.

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It is very relevant argument... :picard2:
Am I native, that I must spealling correctly?
Did you ever learn foreing langauge on such
level on your own through 4 years and was
you spealing correctly in english-like-freaking
orthography writing quickly inter breaks?

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So you're telling me haplogroup E is not negroid but haplogroup D is ?

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Where I said, that E is not negroid, or that D is?

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Natufians, Egyptians, Berbers is nowhere as dark as Bantu Africans.

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I said, they are dark.
Natufians were very dark.
Nut not negroes.

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The only Negritoes with haplogroup D is the Jawara people, the other Negritoes from Southeast Asia and India have none of that D haplogroup.

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It doesn;t matter, becasue negritos were not only D.
But Andamanese are, and they are basal D.

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This tells me you only study their Y-DNA and not their mtDNA.
mtDNA M is 100x bigger in Asia than Y-DNA D. If you think the origin of D is negroid than the same would go with M.
In other words is like saying 1/3 to 3/4 of people of Asia have negritid origin markers if you include both D and M.

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:picard2:

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mtDNA make up at least 50% of our DNA some even say as much as 70%.

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Adamanese like Jarawa are 100% Australoid by DNA and than's due both of their Y-DNA and mtDNA. So you're making big mistake not including mtDNA in the discussion.

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Becasue I am talking about Y.
Mt can be sometimes helpfull, but only sometimes.

If D and C is not Negrito or veddo-ainoid, you must answer the
question: who are negrito in type of andamanese who are original
ainu, who are bengali and other southasian C... aso...

All C, exept mongolian, isveddoid to some degree,
what strongly suggest, that mongolian C was like
that also, especially, that is very rare and mostly
young in northern Asia.

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Originally Posted by Rethel

It is very relevant argument... :picard2:
Am I native, that I must spealling correctly?
Did you ever learn foreing langauge on such
level on your own through 4 years and was
you spealing correctly in english-like-freaking
orthography writing quickly inter breaks?

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True, the incorrect spelling is nothing of importance.

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Where I said, that E is not negroid, or that D is?

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Your examples of Natufians, Egyptians, Berbers are just dark skin Caucasians, none of them are Negroid.

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I said, they are dark.
Natufians were very dark.
Nut not negroes.

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Not Negroes ? tell it to this map distribution of Y-DNA E

Haplogroup DE is both D and E. How you're to going claim D have negritid origin but not E.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...plogroup_E.PNG

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It doesn;t matter, becasue negritos were not only D.
But Andamanese are, and they are basal D.

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If Y-DNA D is the basal of Adamanese than so is mtDNA M, can you explain why it's the case for D but not M?

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I don't understand the facepalms or is it because you cannot answer?


I ask you, why is Y-DNA D negritid origin but not mtDNA M ?

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Becasue I am talking about Y.
Mt can be sometimes helpfull, but only sometimes.

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I'm just trying to make you understand how ridiculous your believes are. Let's not make outlandish claims anymore.

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Originally Posted by Rethel

If D and C is not Negrito or veddo-ainoid, you must answer the
question: who are negrito in type of andamanese who are original
ainu, who are bengali and other southasian C... aso...

All C, exept mongolian, isveddoid to some degree,
what strongly suggest, that mongolian C was like
that also, especially, that is very rare and mostly
young in northern Asia.

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What ? did you learned this type of nonsense through that amateur lunatic blogger Genetik ??? What do you mean when you said " negrito in type of andamanese who are original
ainu, who are bengali and other southasian C "

How would I know.


The only thing I KNOW 100% FOR SURE.

Adamanese male ancestor is D and female ancestor is M.


Here is 3 facts for you

1) All Mongoloids with haplogroup C show 0% Australoid/Veddoid admixture

2) Most Mongoloid with large percent of C show 100% Mongoloid autosomal DNA

3) It is Mongoloids who have the most haplogroup C in the world. There are like 200 million Mongoloids with Haplogroup C

Haplogroup C

54% of 11 million Mongolian
27% of 10 million Manchus
60% of 11 milion Kazakhs
16.5% of 50 million South Koreans
21% of 24 million North Koreans
12.5% of 89 million Vietnamese
23.5% of 8 million Han Chinese from Xian
6% to 12% of all 1.3 billion Han Chinese ( that's like roughly 69 million to 154 million )


Now tell me the number of Australoids and South Asian with C.

Butlerking,

I would prefer, if you will focuse on that what I actually said,
becasue you have a paralel discuss which only sometimes has
something to do with that what I had said. And if you do not
like my spelling, why you bother talking with me? I have no
willing to third or fourth time correcting you, that I was saying
such and such thing.

But certainy, Aboriginals, Ainu, Bengalis of Andamanese weren't
mongoloids at the begining, but even if they would be, you would
have to show, who was originaly "them" but this, as any other things
which I asked you, you can;t do. And if you cannot understand, that
some haplotypes can change a race being in minority not lefting any
aDNA after thousands of years, then it is senless to trying to convinst
you to anything. I am only curious what theory you created in next
week - you are sometimes so changeable, that it is fun :)

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Originally Posted by Rethel

Butlerking,

I would prefer, if you will focuse on that what I actually said,
becasue you have a paralel discuss which only sometimes has
something to do with that what I had said. And if you do not
like my spelling, why you bother talking with me? I have no
willing to third or fourth time correcting you, that I was saying
such and such thing.

But certainy, Aboriginals, Ainu, Bengalis of Andamanese weren't
mongoloids at the begining, but even if they would be, you would
have to show, who was originaly "them" but this, as any other things
which I asked you, you can;t do. And if you cannot understand, that
some haplotypes can change a race being in minority not lefting any
aDNA after thousands of years, then it is senless to trying to convinst
you to anything. I am only curious what theory you created in next
week - you are sometimes so changeable, that it is fun :)

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Now you're just making excuses for something you cannot answer. Anyway I have I have nothing against you, I just can't stand some people making outlandish claims without any true evidence.


Adamanese paternal ancestors are D and maternal ancestors are M. Both of them originated from Africa and migrated to Asia.

You're delusional if you think Y-DNA edit: and mtDNA did not accompanied eachother.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

Now you're just making excuses for something you cannot answer. Anyway I have I have nothing against you, I just can't stand some people making outlandish claims without any true evidence.

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You are aware, that your changing ideas makes in
that moment your proofs under very deep doubt?

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Adamanese paternal ancestors are D and maternal ancestors are M. Both of them originated from Africa and migrated to Asia.

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Ok, so Andamaneses never were yellow, yes?
So if they carry basal D, ancestral to the rest,
how the rest could be originally mongoloid?

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You're delusional if you think Y-DNA

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And I have the problems with english,
when native speaks such gibberish... :laugh: