Mixed Moldovan Adoptee - Gedmatch

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Don't forget to transfer your 23andme raw data to MyHeritage. They have an even larger database of users from Europe, so that increases your chances of finding something. For example, I tested originally on 23andme where I get 1375 relatives as of now, but on MyHeritage that rises to 1940.

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Is it free? Cuz that would be awesome since I’m only a student. Thank you

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Originally Posted by paul.VdC2

Is it free? Cuz that would be awesome since I’m only a student. Thank you

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I can see that they ask for $29 for that. I don't remember how much it was in Euros.

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Originally Posted by Leto

https://i.ibb.co/kqhCJtj/K15V4.png

I wonder if he can be considered white :icon_ask::icon_smile:

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What do you mean with 'not considered white'. Can you elaborate on that? I'm very interested!!

@paul.vdC2 Your father is probably not Azeri but rather North Caucasian. Because your results seem so.

Also I'm shocked that you score South Asian in 23andme but no South Asian in Gedmatch. But it must be East Eurasian, since "Central & South Asian" component is mixture of South & East Asian components.

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Originally Posted by Lesothio

What do you mean with 'not considered white'. Can you elaborate on that? I'm very interested!!

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Who are you? Did you register only to ask me this question?
North Caucasians aren't normally considered European, therefore they're not white. Regardless of how light some of them may be. There are light Arabs, Turks, Iranians too.

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Originally Posted by Sora

@paul.vdC2 Your father is probably not Azeri but rather North Caucasian. Because your results seem so.

Also I'm shocked that you score South Asian in 23andme but no South Asian in Gedmatch. But it must be East Eurasian, since "Central & South Asian" component is mixture of South & East Asian components.

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Yeah could be, also my maternal haplogroup is D4J, which is common with East Asians (someone told me). Isn't that strange or not?

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Originally Posted by Sora

@paul.vdC2 Your father is probably not Azeri but rather North Caucasian. Because your results seem so.

Also I'm shocked that you score South Asian in 23andme but no South Asian in Gedmatch. But it must be East Eurasian, since "Central & South Asian" component is mixture of South & East Asian components.

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No that's not true. Dagestani Azeris are different and have different results but they are still Azeri by origin. And I consider them to be fully Azeri. Leto send me a Azerbaijani result from the northern fringe of Azerbaijan couple of days ago and it was similar to Azeris from Dagestan.

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Originally Posted by Leto

https://i.ibb.co/kqhCJtj/K15V4.png

I wonder if he can be considered white :icon_ask::icon_smile:

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hey! Can you explain this picture a little further? What does it mean, are these all the populations I'm most likely to be or...?

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Originally Posted by paul.VdC2

hey! Can you explain this picture a little further? What does it mean, are these all the populations I'm most likely to be or...?

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You cluster between Caucasus and Moldavians. Similar to me actually (between German and Azeri)

I've tried to model you with these components Azeris, from Dagestan to Iran and Ukrainians + Romanians for your Moldavian ancestry. I included Lezgins to see if you have Lezgin ancestry.

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Azerbaijani,20.81,2.53,0.45,0.58,9.08,9.18,2.66,0.31,12.19,3.6,38.42,0.19
Azerbaijani_Dagestan,24.44,2.3,0.3,0.27,5.31,16.36,1.77,0.04,7.28,1.4,40.5,0.01
Azerbaijani_Iran,21.99,2.58,1.09,0.87,8.14,8.1,2.66,0.37,12.2,2.9,38.98,0.11
Ukranians,0.30,0.80,0.00,0.00,16.30,62.10,0.90,0.00,3.00,0.20,16.40,0.00
Romanians,3.00,0.30,0.00,0.00,24.60,36.00,1.50,0.00,5.90,0.30,28.40,0.00
Lezgins,27.80,1.70,0.00,0.00,0.30,23.80,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.00,45.60,0.00

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This is what I got (no close distance unfortunately, but could also be because I got not Moldavian sample):

Target: paul.VdC2
Distance: 4.3094% / 4.30938976
44.2 Romanians
36.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.2 Ukranians
8.4 Azerbaijani


55% Moldavian + 36.2 Azeri from Dagestan + 8.4 Azeri.

My conlusion is your father is either Azeri + Lezgin or he is just an Azerbaijani from close to the northern border.




Here a model with all relevant groups for Azerbaijan:

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Azerbaijani,20.81,2.53,0.45,0.58,9.08,9.18,2.66,0.31,12.19,3.6,38.42,0.19
Azerbaijani_Dagestan,24.44,2.3,0.3,0.27,5.31,16.36,1.77,0.04,7.28,1.4,40.5,0.01
Azerbaijani_Iran,21.99,2.58,1.09,0.87,8.14,8.1,2.66,0.37,12.2,2.9,38.98,0.11
Ukranians,0.30,0.80,0.00,0.00,16.30,62.10,0.90,0.00,3.00,0.20,16.40,0.00
Romanians,3.00,0.30,0.00,0.00,24.60,36.00,1.50,0.00,5.90,0.30,28.40,0.00
Lezgins,27.80,1.70,0.00,0.00,0.30,23.80,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.00,45.60,0.00
Kumyks,20.00,3.90,0.00,0.50,3.10,18.80,0.40,0.00,3.30,3.70,46.30,0.00
Talysh_Azerbaijan,25.5,1.24,0.71,0.32,6.32,7.18,3.21,0.14,12.17,1.2,41.97,0.02
Avar_Dagestan,25.18,2.76,0,0,6.09,25.32,1.19,0,2.06,0.28,37.13,0
Iranian,28.80,2.10,0.00,0.60,5.60,6.00,3.60,0.10,12.40,0.50,40.30,0.00
Armenian_East,18.78,0.24,0.62,0.08,10.82,5.54,0.48,0.02,14.21,0.13,49.01,0
Turk_Anatolia,14.62,5.01,0.96,0.61,12.83,10.75,1.35,0.2,10.92,4.87,37.71,0.09
Russian,2.00,7.30,0.00,0.10,12.10,65.40,1.10,0.00,2.00,0.80,9.20,0.00

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Target: paul.VdC2
Distance: 3.6897% / 3.68967012
48.0 Romanians
23.8 Avar_Dagestan
14.8 Iranian
7.8 Ukranians
5.6 Azerbaijani