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01-19-2023, 10:45 PM
Damião de Góis

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixajo

Very odd.

Those are the individual samples with which that average was made in the official datasheet:

But well, if you know MTA, you should be used to be modelled also as "Illyrian", right?

No, i don't know much about samples from that area. But i guess this is no south slav:

Distance to: South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.01384718 Italian_Lombardy
0.01511850 Italian_Bergamo
0.01557793 Italian_Piedmont
0.01625161 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.01629773 Italian_Veneto
0.02069117 Italian_Emilia
0.02283911 Swiss_Italian
0.02405468 French_Corsica
0.02425766 Italian_Tuscany
0.02506673 Italian_Northeast
0.02587924 Italian_Liguria
0.02761556 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02790775 Spanish_Baleares
0.02869014 Spanish_Menorca
0.02952736 French_Provence
0.02966731 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02977782 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.03010989 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03183351 Greek_Thessaly
0.03201425 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03298756 Albanian
0.03316264 Spanish_Girona
0.03327712 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03362220 Spanish_Penedes
0.03426482 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
01-19-2023, 10:47 PM
Dušan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

No, i don't know much about samples from that area. But i guess this is no south slav:

Distance to: South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.01384718 Italian_Lombardy
0.01511850 Italian_Bergamo
0.01557793 Italian_Piedmont
0.01625161 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.01629773 Italian_Veneto
0.02069117 Italian_Emilia
0.02283911 Swiss_Italian
0.02405468 French_Corsica
0.02425766 Italian_Tuscany
0.02506673 Italian_Northeast
0.02587924 Italian_Liguria
0.02761556 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02790775 Spanish_Baleares
0.02869014 Spanish_Menorca
0.02952736 French_Provence
0.02966731 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02977782 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.03010989 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03183351 Greek_Thessaly
0.03201425 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03298756 Albanian
0.03316264 Spanish_Girona
0.03327712 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03362220 Spanish_Penedes
0.03426482 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona

It is sample from Bronze age, not related with proto-Slavs.
Slavs were not in Balkans in that time.
01-19-2023, 10:54 PM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

No, i don't know much about samples from that area. But i guess this is no south slav:

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Of course they are not South Slavs, those are Bronze Age samples, Slavs arrived to that area much later.

Are the Central_Iberian BA samples like the current Castilian ones? Obviously no, the most similar to the modern people of those references are British to their BA references and probably Balts.
01-19-2023, 10:58 PM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dušan

It is sample from Bronze age, not related with proto-Slavs.
Slavs were not in Balkans in that time.

That´s it.
01-19-2023, 11:26 PM
RyoHazuki

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.9543% / 0.01954276
54.2 North_Europe:IRL_BA
21.4 South_Europe:HRV_BA
16.8 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
6.8 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
0.8 North_Europe:DNK_BA

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 4.1149% / 0.04114882
67.6 North_Europe:IRL_BA
29.2 South_Europe:HRV_BA
2.6 North_Europe:DNK_BA
0.4 Africa:ZAF_2100BP
0.2 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA

Is the Croatian BA sample closer to early Celts/SW Europe?
01-20-2023, 12:37 AM
celticdragongod

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.03427557 North_Europe:IRL_BA
0.05124833 North_Europe:DNK_BA
0.06354921 North_Europe:SWE_BA
0.06989334 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
0.08825876 South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.10265531 South_Europe:ITA_Broion_BA
0.10449780 South_Europe:ALB_MBA
0.10922958 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
0.13460802 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
0.16548072 South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
0.61215349 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
0.62614568 Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
0.66639494 America:ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP
0.91047633 Africa:ZAF_2100BP

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.7927% / 0.02792691
79.4 North_Europe
20.6 South_Europe

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.7927% / 0.02792691
75.4 North_Europe:IRL_BA
20.2 South_Europe:HRV_BA
4.0 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
0.4 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
01-20-2023, 06:18 AM
alnortedelsur

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.1918% / 0.04191778
87.2 South_Europe
7.0 America
4.4 Africa
1.0 North_Europe
0.4 Asia

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.1974% / 0.04197392 | ADC: 0.25x RC
88.2 South_Europe
7.4 America
4.4 Africa

Code:

Distance*to: Alnortedelsur_scaled 0.08043172 South_Europe:HRV_BA 0.09174426 South_Europe:ITA_Broion_BA 0.09518238 South_Europe:ALB_MBA 0.10881405 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA 0.11361535 North_Europe:DNK_BA 0.11855948 North_Europe:IRL_BA 0.12526100 North_Europe:SWE_BA 0.12800125 South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA 0.13329084 North_Europe:UKR_MBA 0.20035402 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA 0.57298873 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP 0.59484689 Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP 0.62209133 America:ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP 0.85601322 Africa:ZAF_2100BP
01-20-2023, 07:16 AM
Kiel

Well thats surprising

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 2.0272% / 0.02027214
56.2 North_Europe
43.8 South_Europe
01-20-2023, 08:51 AM
Gergő Marosvári

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.4259% / 0.01425874
31.6 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
24.4 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
24.4 South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
9.0 South_Europe:ALB_MBA
6.2 North_Europe:SWE_BA
2.8 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
1.0 North_Europe:IRL_BA
0.4 North_Europe:DNK_BA
0.2 Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
01-20-2023, 12:56 PM
oszkar07

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.9995% / 0.02999497
52.6 North_Europe
47.2 South_Europe
0.2 Asia

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