Eurogenes K15 PCA

North_Sea 13.16
Atlantic 10.39
Baltic 11.03
Eastern_Euro 8.04
West_Med 14.68
West_Asian 12.93
East_Med 26.23
Red_Sea 2.75
South_Asian 0.30
Southeast_Asian 0.05
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.42
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

Thank you

Add me:)

North_Sea 17.48
Atlantic 17.71
Baltic 30.80
Eastern_Euro 21.50
West_Med 4.21
West_Asian 4.53
East_Med 0.82
Red_Sea 1.99
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.56
Sub-Saharan 0.38

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Originally Posted by mlukas

Add me:)

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It's interesting how you got so low North-Sea.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Argentano

Ibericus do you do 1 by 1 or you have an automatic way to do this? ii would like you to plot 70 argentines XD

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Paste them here, I can do it.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Sorcelow

North_Sea 13.16
Atlantic 10.39
Baltic 11.03
Eastern_Euro 8.04
West_Med 14.68
West_Asian 12.93
East_Med 26.23
Red_Sea 2.75
South_Asian 0.30
Southeast_Asian 0.05
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.42
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

Thank you

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https://image.ibb.co/g7v2Ka/sorcelow.png

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mlukas

Add me:)

North_Sea 17.48
Atlantic 17.71
Baltic 30.80
Eastern_Euro 21.50
West_Med 4.21
West_Asian 4.53
East_Med 0.82
Red_Sea 1.99
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.56
Sub-Saharan 0.38

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https://image.ibb.co/cOchKa/mlukas.png

Can you do mine, please?

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.82
2 West_Asian 20.64
3 Red_Sea 12.13
4 West_Med 8.52
5 Atlantic 6.49
6 Northeast_African 4.30
7 North_Sea 3.32
8 South_Asian 3.03

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Population
North_Sea 3.32
Atlantic 6.49
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 8.52
West_Asian 20.64
East_Med 39.82
Red_Sea 12.13
South_Asian 3.03
Southeast_Asian 0.87
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.53
Northeast_African 4.30
Sub-Saharan 0.36

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Originally Posted by Not a Cop

It's interesting how you got so low North-Sea.

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Not really. He clusters among Russians and north-sea is a component that's more western than Basque and more northern at the same time, but I think the fact that it is so western makes it do that.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Litvin

All of ancient Balkan samples published so far are low coverage.

But add West Anatolian (near Marmara Sea) Copper Age I1584:

Population
North_Sea 6.51
Atlantic 11.20
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 24.01
West_Asian 26.22
East_Med 32.07
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle results:

Spoiler!

Kit M091434

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.07
2 West_Asian 26.22
3 West_Med 24.01
4 Atlantic 11.2
5 North_Sea 6.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 13.23
2 Central_Greek 14.86
3 Cyprian 15.19
4 East_Sicilian 15.69
5 Italian_Jewish 15.96
6 Sephardic_Jewish 16.43
7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.69
8 Algerian_Jewish 16.83
9 West_Sicilian 18.09
10 Turkish 18.13
11 Ashkenazi 18.51
12 Tunisian_Jewish 18.69
13 Lebanese_Muslim 19.32
14 Armenian 19.56
15 Greek 19.68
16 Libyan_Jewish 20.22
17 Assyrian 20.53
18 Greek_Thessaly 20.69
19 Georgian_Jewish 21.22
20 Tuscan 21.35

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% Armenian + 35.4% Sardinian @ 6.39
2 63% Georgian_Jewish + 37% Sardinian @ 8.18
3 64.2% Assyrian + 35.8% Sardinian @ 8.94
4 59.9% Kurdish + 40.1% Sardinian @ 10.35
5 67.8% South_Italian + 32.2% Armenian @ 10.71
6 81.9% South_Italian + 18.1% Abhkasian @ 10.93
7 69.3% Turkish + 30.7% Sardinian @ 10.96
8 80.9% South_Italian + 19.1% Georgian @ 11.13
9 61.9% Kurdish_Jewish + 38.1% Sardinian @ 11.22
10 73.3% Algerian_Jewish + 26.7% Abhkasian @ 11.57
11 62.4% Azeri + 37.6% Sardinian @ 11.58
12 73.9% South_Italian + 26.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 11.65
13 75.5% Italian_Jewish + 24.5% Abhkasian @ 11.66
14 61% Iranian_Jewish + 39% Sardinian @ 11.7
15 53.3% Armenian + 46.7% Tuscan @ 11.72
16 66.1% Armenian + 33.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 11.73
17 71.5% Algerian_Jewish + 28.5% Georgian @ 11.77
18 53.2% West_Sicilian + 46.8% Armenian @ 11.78
19 84.2% South_Italian + 15.8% Ossetian @ 11.81
20 60.6% Armenian + 39.4% North_Italian @ 11.84

Add also Hungarian Late Bronze Age (Kyjatice culture) BR2:

Population
North_Sea 22.92
Atlantic 25.71
Baltic 15.34
Eastern_Euro 10.93
West_Med 15.58
West_Asian -
East_Med 7.19
Red_Sea 1.95
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.17
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.21

Oracle results:

Spoiler!

Kit F999933

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25.71
2 North_Sea 22.92
3 West_Med 15.58
4 Baltic 15.34
5 Eastern_Euro 10.93
6 East_Med 7.19
7 Red_Sea 1.95
8 Sub-Saharan 0.21
9 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 9.21
2 East_German 9.37
3 French 9.6
4 South_Dutch 9.69
5 Hungarian 11.37
6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.62
7 Spanish_Galicia 11.97
8 Serbian 12.19
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.61
10 Portuguese 12.66
11 West_German 12.68
12 Croatian 13.31
13 Southwest_French 13.35
14 North_German 13.84
15 Spanish_Extremadura 13.89
16 Southwest_English 13.98
17 Spanish_Murcia 14
18 Spanish_Cantabria 14.1
19 Spanish_Valencia 14.48
20 Southeast_English 14.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 33.4% Estonian @ 2.99
2 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% Polish @ 3.12
3 61.3% Spanish_Valencia + 38.7% Estonian @ 3.22
4 69.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 3.24
5 58.5% Spanish_Aragon + 41.5% Estonian @ 3.28
6 66.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 33.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.29
7 66.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 33.6% Belorussian @ 3.31
8 62% Spanish_Cantabria + 38% Estonian @ 3.33
9 62.2% Spanish_Murcia + 37.8% Estonian @ 3.39
10 59.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 40.4% Estonian @ 3.51
11 64.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 35.2% Estonian @ 3.51
12 62.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 37.6% Estonian @ 3.59
13 56.9% Spanish_Murcia + 43.1% Polish @ 3.6
14 59.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 40.3% Polish @ 3.74
15 53% Spanish_Aragon + 47% Ukrainian @ 3.78
16 59.6% Portuguese + 40.4% Polish @ 3.79
17 56.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 43.2% Polish @ 3.84
18 61.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.3% Ukrainian @ 3.84
19 60.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.6% South_Polish @ 3.86
20 64.9% Portuguese + 35.1% Estonian @ 3.86

And add also three Copper Age North Italians from Remedello di Sotto:

Remedello culture, RISE487 (3483-3107 BC):

Population
North_Sea 0.15
Atlantic 42.42
Baltic 2.54
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 54.89
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle results:

Spoiler!

Kit T699825

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 54.89
2 Atlantic 42.42
3 Baltic 2.54
4 North_Sea 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sardinian 24.7
2 French_Basque 30.85
3 Spanish_Aragon 34.13
4 Southwest_French 34.24
5 Spanish_Andalucia 34.73
6 Spanish_Cantabria 34.76
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 35.2
8 Spanish_Valencia 35.9
9 Spanish_Extremadura 38.18
10 Spanish_Murcia 38.32
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 38.33
12 Spanish_Cataluna 38.94
13 Portuguese 39.16
14 Spanish_Galicia 40.15
15 North_Italian 40.25
16 Tuscan 43.94
17 French 46.28
18 West_Sicilian 47.4
19 Greek 48.58
20 Mozabite_Berber 49.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.2% Sardinian + 34.8% French_Basque @ 21.77
2 82.6% Sardinian + 17.4% Southwest_French @ 24.16
3 83.8% Sardinian + 16.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 24.26
4 86.4% Sardinian + 13.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 24.39
5 88.6% Sardinian + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 24.48
6 91.6% Sardinian + 8.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 24.58
7 92.1% Sardinian + 7.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 24.61
8 97.7% Sardinian + 2.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 24.69
9 98.8% Sardinian + 1.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 24.7
10 100% Sardinian + 0% Irish @ 24.7
11 100% Sardinian + 0% Abhkasian @ 24.7
12 100% Sardinian + 0% Adygei @ 24.7
13 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 24.7
14 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 24.7
15 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 24.7
16 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 24.7
17 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 24.7
18 100% Sardinian + 0% Algerian @ 24.7
19 100% Sardinian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 24.7
20 100% Sardinian + 0% Altaian @ 24.7

Remedello culture, RISE489 (2908-2578 BC):

Population
North_Sea 6.21
Atlantic 32.55
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 55.26
West_Asian -
East_Med 5.98
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle results:

Spoiler!

Kit T135721

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 55.26
2 Atlantic 32.55
3 North_Sea 6.21
4 East_Med 5.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sardinian 15.6
2 Spanish_Andalucia 31.22
3 French_Basque 31.3
4 Spanish_Aragon 31.34
5 Spanish_Cantabria 31.45
6 Southwest_French 31.75
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 32.04
8 Spanish_Valencia 32.65
9 Spanish_Extremadura 33.9
10 Spanish_Murcia 34.26
11 Portuguese 34.52
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 34.59
13 Spanish_Cataluna 35.01
14 North_Italian 35.09
15 Spanish_Galicia 35.28
16 Tuscan 38.38
17 West_Sicilian 41.8
18 French 42.14
19 Greek 43.4
20 Italian_Abruzzo 43.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.8% Sardinian + 17.2% French_Basque @ 14.5
2 94.3% Sardinian + 5.7% Southwest_French @ 15.51
3 95% Sardinian + 5% Spanish_Aragon @ 15.54
4 95.4% Sardinian + 4.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 15.55
5 98% Sardinian + 2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 15.59
6 100% Sardinian + 0% Abhkasian @ 15.6
7 100% Sardinian + 0% Adygei @ 15.6
8 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 15.6
9 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 15.6
10 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 15.6
11 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 15.6
12 100% Sardinian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 15.6
13 100% Sardinian + 0% Algerian @ 15.6
14 100% Sardinian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 15.6
15 100% Sardinian + 0% Altaian @ 15.6
16 100% Sardinian + 0% Anzick-1 @ 15.6
17 100% Sardinian + 0% Armenian @ 15.6
18 100% Sardinian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 15.6
19 100% Sardinian + 0% Assyrian @ 15.6
20 100% Sardinian + 0% Austrian @ 15.6

Remedello culture, RISE486 (2134-1773 BC):

Population
North_Sea 1.76
Atlantic 30.69
Baltic 6.11
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 45.54
West_Asian -
East_Med 9.48
Red_Sea 5.08
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.34

Oracle results:

Spoiler!

Kit T319214

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 45.54
2 Atlantic 30.69
3 East_Med 9.48
4 Baltic 6.11
5 Red_Sea 5.08
6 North_Sea 1.76
7 Sub-Saharan 1.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sardinian 11.96
2 Spanish_Andalucia 24.04
3 Spanish_Aragon 25.04
4 Southwest_French 25.39
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 25.49
6 Spanish_Cantabria 25.52
7 Spanish_Valencia 25.81
8 French_Basque 26.93
9 Spanish_Extremadura 27.09
10 North_Italian 27.5
11 Spanish_Murcia 27.58
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 27.78
13 Portuguese 28.07
14 Spanish_Cataluna 28.71
15 Spanish_Galicia 28.96
16 Tuscan 30.14
17 West_Sicilian 33.09
18 Greek 34.42
19 Mozabite_Berber 34.91
20 Italian_Abruzzo 35.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.9% Sardinian + 24.1% French_Basque @ 8.82
2 79% Sardinian + 21% Southwest_French @ 10.25
3 79.5% Sardinian + 20.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 10.41
4 80.9% Sardinian + 19.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 10.64
5 81.1% Sardinian + 18.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 10.67
6 80.7% Sardinian + 19.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 10.8
7 82.1% Sardinian + 17.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 10.81
8 84.9% Sardinian + 15.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 11.06
9 86.7% Sardinian + 13.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 11.24
10 86.1% Sardinian + 13.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 11.25
11 85.9% Sardinian + 14.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.25
12 92.8% Sardinian + 7.2% Irish @ 11.42
13 93.5% Sardinian + 6.5% La_Brana-1 @ 11.42
14 93.5% Sardinian + 6.5% Estonian_Polish @ 11.43
15 88.1% Sardinian + 11.9% Portuguese @ 11.45
16 93.4% Sardinian + 6.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 11.45
17 93.2% Sardinian + 6.8% West_Scottish @ 11.46
18 93.8% Sardinian + 6.2% Belorussian @ 11.47
19 92.2% Sardinian + 7.8% Austrian @ 11.48
20 93% Sardinian + 7% Southeast_English @ 11.49

^^^
Modern Albanians could be modelled as a mixture of those three populations:

http://i.imgur.com/OLB7Ogr.png

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https://image.ibb.co/iMydsv/litvin.png

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

Paste them here, I can do it.

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I already did it myself but thanks anyway:thumb001:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4512086

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

https://image.ibb.co/g7v2Ka/sorcelow.png

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If its not too much of a request, could you post all the Greek results that you have including me in one PCA? If its too much work then its alright.

These two are roughly the "extremes" for Sicily. Wondering where they will be.

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.06
2 West_Med 18.3
3 West_Asian 15.64
4 Atlantic 11.93
5 Red_Sea 6.85
6 Baltic 6.17
7 North_Sea 3.8
8 Northeast_African 1.52
9 Eastern_Euro 1.51
10 Southeast_Asian 1.13
11 Oceanian 0.1


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.94
2 West_Med 21.03
3 Atlantic 17.97
4 West_Asian 11.08
5 North_Sea 10.57
6 Baltic 8.17
7 Red_Sea 4.56
8 Northeast_African 1.24
9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
10 Eastern_Euro 0.47
11 Oceanian 0.32
12 Sub-Saharan 0.03


And here is someone from Chios:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.39
2 West_Asian 18.63
3 West_Med 15.63
4 Atlantic 10.65
5 Baltic 9.1
6 North_Sea 6.19
7 Eastern_Euro 5.03
8 Red_Sea 3.95
9 Amerindian 0.42

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Originally Posted by Sorcelow

If its not too much of a request, could you post all the Greek results that you have including me in one PCA? If its too much work then its alright.

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I have only northern greeks, but here you have :

https://image.ibb.co/dthJQF/greeks.png

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

These two are roughly the "extremes" for Sicily. Wondering where they will be.

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.06
2 West_Med 18.3
3 West_Asian 15.64
4 Atlantic 11.93
5 Red_Sea 6.85
6 Baltic 6.17
7 North_Sea 3.8
8 Northeast_African 1.52
9 Eastern_Euro 1.51
10 Southeast_Asian 1.13
11 Oceanian 0.1


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.94
2 West_Med 21.03
3 Atlantic 17.97
4 West_Asian 11.08
5 North_Sea 10.57
6 Baltic 8.17
7 Red_Sea 4.56
8 Northeast_African 1.24
9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
10 Eastern_Euro 0.47
11 Oceanian 0.32
12 Sub-Saharan 0.03


And here is someone from Chios:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.39
2 West_Asian 18.63
3 West_Med 15.63
4 Atlantic 10.65
5 Baltic 9.1
6 North_Sea 6.19
7 Eastern_Euro 5.03
8 Red_Sea 3.95
9 Amerindian 0.42

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https://image.ibb.co/bXrOsv/sikeliot.png

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

https://image.ibb.co/bXrOsv/sikeliot.png

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Can you expand the plot to show where Caucasus people, Armenians, and Levantines plot? I am guessing the Chios result is going toward the Caucasus, and the Sicily_1 toward the Levant (which would be behind the North African Jews).

Sicily_2 is Trapani, and plots near the Trapani based "West Sicily" cluster.

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

Can you expand the plot to show where Caucasus people, Armenians, and Levantines plot? I am guessing the Chios result is going toward the Caucasus, and the Sicily_1 toward the Levant (which would be behind the North African Jews).

Sicily_2 is Trapani, and plots near the Trapani based "West Sicily" cluster.

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https://image.ibb.co/bEXSLF/sikeliot.png

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

https://image.ibb.co/bEXSLF/sikeliot.png

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Thank you. So Sicily_1 is pretty much like a North African jew.

Add these three to the same plot? Now we have the island's 4 corners :)

"Sicily_3"
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.52
2 West_Asian 19.03
3 West_Med 14.38
4 North_Sea 13.32
5 Atlantic 12.19
6 Baltic 5.46
7 Red_Sea 4.92
8 Northeast_African 1.36
9 Sub-Saharan 1.18
10 Oceanian 0.64


"Sicily_4"
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.75
2 West_Med 16.59
3 West_Asian 13.69
4 Atlantic 13.42
5 North_Sea 12.68
6 Baltic 6.27
7 Red_Sea 5.42
8 Eastern_Euro 2.32
9 Sub-Saharan 1.04
10 Oceanian 0.71
11 Siberian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.42
13 Amerindian 0.18


Cyclades
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Asian 17.27
3 West_Med 14.52
4 Atlantic 13.02
5 North_Sea 11.51
6 Baltic 9.23
7 Red_Sea 5.09
8 Eastern_Euro 2.17
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Amerindian 0.58
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Southeast_Asian 0.11

Can u add me again with the expanded form please it looks better this PCA.

North_Sea31.52
Atlantic16.65
Baltic20.74
Eastern_Euro15.15
West_Med8.54
West_Asian0.70
East_Med4.31
Red_Sea-
South_Asian0.52
Southeast_Asian0.18
Siberian-
Amerindian0.76
Oceanian0.39
Northeast_African0.53
Sub-Saharan-



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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

Thank you. So Sicily_1 is pretty much like a North African jew.

Add these three to the same plot? Now we have the island's 4 corners :)

"Sicily_3"
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.52
2 West_Asian 19.03
3 West_Med 14.38
4 North_Sea 13.32
5 Atlantic 12.19
6 Baltic 5.46
7 Red_Sea 4.92
8 Northeast_African 1.36
9 Sub-Saharan 1.18
10 Oceanian 0.64


"Sicily_4"
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.75
2 West_Med 16.59
3 West_Asian 13.69
4 Atlantic 13.42
5 North_Sea 12.68
6 Baltic 6.27
7 Red_Sea 5.42
8 Eastern_Euro 2.32
9 Sub-Saharan 1.04
10 Oceanian 0.71
11 Siberian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.42
13 Amerindian 0.18


Cyclades
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Asian 17.27
3 West_Med 14.52
4 Atlantic 13.02
5 North_Sea 11.51
6 Baltic 9.23
7 Red_Sea 5.09
8 Eastern_Euro 2.17
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Amerindian 0.58
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Southeast_Asian 0.11

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https://image.ibb.co/nkZeZa/sikeliot.png

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Originally Posted by karol.klacansky

Can u add me again with the expanded form please it looks better this PCA.

North_Sea31.52
Atlantic16.65
Baltic20.74
Eastern_Euro15.15
West_Med8.54
West_Asian0.70
East_Med4.31
Red_Sea-
South_Asian0.52
Southeast_Asian0.18
Siberian-
Amerindian0.76
Oceanian0.39
Northeast_African0.53
Sub-Saharan-



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https://image.ibb.co/dvij0F/karol.png

Ibericus, can you add these please?

Tuscan 1

North_Sea 19.05
Atlantic 21.11
Baltic 7.13
Eastern_Euro 4.34
West_Med 20.13
West_Asian 6.85
East_Med 18.87
Red_Sea 2.94
South_Asian 0.61
Southeast_Asian 0.23
Siberian 0
Amerindian 0
Oceanian 0.12
Northeast_African 0.07
Sub-Saharan 0


Tuscan 2

North_Sea 17.89
Atlantic 19.60
Baltic 6.17
Eastern_Euro 3.26
West_Med 20.45
West_Asian 9.81
East_Med 19.51
Red_Sea 3.20
South_Asian 0.60
Southeast_Asian 0.18
Siberian 0.05
Amerindian 0.03
Oceanian 0.14
Northeast_African 0.091
Sub-Saharan 0.05

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

https://image.ibb.co/dvij0F/karol.png

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Much appreciated

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Originally Posted by Percivalle

Ibericus, can you add these please?

Tuscan 1

North_Sea 19.05
Atlantic 21.11
Baltic 7.13
Eastern_Euro 4.34
West_Med 20.13
West_Asian 6.85
East_Med 18.87
Red_Sea 2.94
South_Asian 0.61
Southeast_Asian 0.23
Siberian 0
Amerindian 0
Oceanian 0.12
Northeast_African 0.07
Sub-Saharan 0


Tuscan 2

North_Sea 17.89
Atlantic 19.60
Baltic 6.17
Eastern_Euro 3.26
West_Med 20.45
West_Asian 9.81
East_Med 19.51
Red_Sea 3.20
South_Asian 0.60
Southeast_Asian 0.18
Siberian 0.05
Amerindian 0.03
Oceanian 0.14
Northeast_African 0.091
Sub-Saharan 0.05

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Thanks. The first is an average based on 3 northern Tuscans from Lucca area, the second is an average based on 10 Tuscans from any parts of the region. In few minutes I will post an average based on 20 Tuscans.

Cyclades conforms with the Greek mainland rather than with Chios or the Sicilian cluster.

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Originally Posted by Percivalle

Thanks. The first is an average based on 3 northern Tuscans from Lucca area, the second is an average based on 10 Tuscans from any parts of the region. In few minutes I will post an average based on 20 Tuscans.

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Thanks again, Ibericus.

Tuscan 3

North_Sea 17.65
Atlantic 20.43
Baltic 6.42
Eastern_Euro 2.92
West_Med 20.32
West_Asian 9.21
East_Med 19.01
Red_Sea 3.14
South_Asian 0.40
Southeast_Asian 0.14
Siberian 0.04
Amerindian 0.02
Oceanian 0.16
Northeast_African 0.09
Sub-Saharan 0.03

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Thanks again, Ibericus.

Tuscan 3

North_Sea 17.65
Atlantic 20.43
Baltic 6.42
Eastern_Euro 2.92
West_Med 20.32
West_Asian 9.21
East_Med 19.01
Red_Sea 3.14
South_Asian 0.40
Southeast_Asian 0.14
Siberian 0.04
Amerindian 0.02
Oceanian 0.16
Northeast_African 0.09
Sub-Saharan 0.03

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Syracuse:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.21
2 West_Med 19.22
3 West_Asian 16.32
4 Atlantic 10.4
5 North_Sea 9.36
6 Baltic 7.83
7 Red_Sea 4.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.17
9 Northeast_African 1.25
10 Southeast_Asian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.07


Caltanissetta:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.97
2 West_Med 21.19
3 North_Atlantic 17.31
4 West_Asian 14.83
5 Red_Sea 7.76
6 Baltic 6.2
7 Northeast_African 2.63
8 Oceanian 0.44
9 Siberian 0.35
10 East_Asian 0.32


Palermo1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.68
2 West_Med 18.37
3 North_Sea 14.83
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 Red_Sea 7.37
6 Atlantic 7.21
7 Eastern_Euro 2.56
8 Baltic 2.51
9 Sub-Saharan 1.54
10 Amerindian 0.9
11 Oceanian 0.25


Palermo2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.35
2 Atlantic 18.89
3 West_Med 18.09
4 West_Asian 14.27
5 Baltic 6.21
6 Red_Sea 5.75
7 North_Sea 3.15
8 Eastern_Euro 2.16
9 Northeast_African 0.52
10 Sub-Saharan 0.36
11 Oceanian 0.15
12 Amerindian 0.08


Messina:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.45
2 West_Med 21
3 West_Asian 15.04
4 Atlantic 11.26
5 North_Sea 10.8
6 Red_Sea 6.02
7 Baltic 3.87
8 Northeast_African 1.98
9 Siberian 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Sub-Saharan 0.01


Ragusa:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.43
2 West_Med 20.66
3 West_Asian 12.84
4 Atlantic 12.07
5 North_Sea 10.98
6 Baltic 4.9
7 Red_Sea 4.54
8 Eastern_Euro 2.67
9 Northeast_African 1.66
10 Sub-Saharan 1.55
11 Siberian 0.7

Where does that uber-iberian you posted the other day plot? With basques?

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Where does that uber-iberian you posted the other day plot? With basques?

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Yeah close to basques.

Can you plot me please?



#PopulationPercent
1East_Med28.96
2West_Med19.04
3West_Asian15.52
4Atlantic13.61
5Baltic7.92
6North_Sea7.37
7Red_Sea6.56
8Northeast_African0.57
9Amerindian0.3
10Oceanian0.11
11Eastern_Euro0.04




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Can you plot me as well please?

1. East Med: 30.27
2. Atlantic 16.66
3. West Asian: 15.17
4. West Med 12.03
5. Red Sea 7.18
6. North Sea 6.97
7. Eastern Euro 4.34
8. Baltic 2.92
9. Northeast African 2.07
10. Southeast Asian 1.18
11. South Asian 1.12
12. Amerindian 0.1

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Can you plot me as well please?

1. East Med: 30.27
2. Atlantic 16.66
3. West Asian: 15.17
4. West Med 12.03
5. Red Sea 7.18
6. North Sea 6.97
7. Eastern Euro 4.34
8. Baltic 2.92
9. Northeast African 2.07
10. Southeast Asian 1.18
11. South Asian 1.12
12. Amerindian 0.1

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What's your ancestry ?

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What's your ancestry ?

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Bulgarian Jewish (Eastern Sephardic), some Ashkenazi, and some minor Romanian (and possibly some German).

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Can you plot me please?



#PopulationPercent
1East_Med28.96
2West_Med19.04
3West_Asian15.52
4Atlantic13.61
5Baltic7.92
6North_Sea7.37
7Red_Sea6.56
8Northeast_African0.57
9Amerindian0.3
10Oceanian0.11
11Eastern_Euro0.04




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Can you plot me as well please?

1. East Med: 30.27
2. Atlantic 16.66
3. West Asian: 15.17
4. West Med 12.03
5. Red Sea 7.18
6. North Sea 6.97
7. Eastern Euro 4.34
8. Baltic 2.92
9. Northeast African 2.07
10. Southeast Asian 1.18
11. South Asian 1.12
12. Amerindian 0.1

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Your Dodecanese sample seems more outlying than it should be. I must have sent too many outliers. Add these into the plot average:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.05
2 West_Asian 16.6
3 West_Med 15.66
4 Atlantic 12.56
5 North_Sea 12.52
6 Baltic 7.61
7 Red_Sea 4.96
8 South_Asian 0.95
9 Eastern_Euro 0.68
10 Siberian 0.41


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.14
2 West_Asian 18.61
3 West_Med 14.7
4 Atlantic 13.86
5 North_Sea 6.35
6 Baltic 5.6
7 Red_Sea 4.37
8 Eastern_Euro 1.93
9 South_Asian 1.76
10 Northeast_African 0.61
11 Siberian 0.09


#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.59
2 West_Asian 18.25
3 West_Med 16.32
4 North_Sea 10.94
5 Atlantic 8.88
6 Baltic 6.99
7 Red_Sea 4.71
8 Eastern_Euro 3.11
9 Southeast_Asian 0.91
10 Oceanian 0.3


#4:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.14
2 West_Asian 18.61
3 West_Med 14.7
4 Atlantic 13.86
5 North_Sea 6.35
6 Baltic 5.6
7 Red_Sea 4.37
8 Eastern_Euro 1.93
9 South_Asian 1.76
10 Northeast_African 0.61
11 Siberian 0.09


#5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.44
2 West_Asian 19.62
3 West_Med 17.01
4 North_Sea 10.31
5 Atlantic 5.95
6 Red_Sea 5.58
7 Baltic 5.34
8 Eastern_Euro 4.25
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 Northeast_African 0.76
11 Siberian 0.35
12 Southeast_Asian 0.28
13 Amerindian 0.23
14 Sub-Saharan 0.09

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Your Dodecanese sample seems more outlying than it should be. I must have sent too many outliers. Add these into the plot average:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.05
2 West_Asian 16.6
3 West_Med 15.66
4 Atlantic 12.56
5 North_Sea 12.52
6 Baltic 7.61
7 Red_Sea 4.96
8 South_Asian 0.95
9 Eastern_Euro 0.68
10 Siberian 0.41


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.14
2 West_Asian 18.61
3 West_Med 14.7
4 Atlantic 13.86
5 North_Sea 6.35
6 Baltic 5.6
7 Red_Sea 4.37
8 Eastern_Euro 1.93
9 South_Asian 1.76
10 Northeast_African 0.61
11 Siberian 0.09


#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.59
2 West_Asian 18.25
3 West_Med 16.32
4 North_Sea 10.94
5 Atlantic 8.88
6 Baltic 6.99
7 Red_Sea 4.71
8 Eastern_Euro 3.11
9 Southeast_Asian 0.91
10 Oceanian 0.3


#4:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.14
2 West_Asian 18.61
3 West_Med 14.7
4 Atlantic 13.86
5 North_Sea 6.35
6 Baltic 5.6
7 Red_Sea 4.37
8 Eastern_Euro 1.93
9 South_Asian 1.76
10 Northeast_African 0.61
11 Siberian 0.09


#5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.44
2 West_Asian 19.62
3 West_Med 17.01
4 North_Sea 10.31
5 Atlantic 5.95
6 Red_Sea 5.58
7 Baltic 5.34
8 Eastern_Euro 4.25
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 Northeast_African 0.76
11 Siberian 0.35
12 Southeast_Asian 0.28
13 Amerindian 0.23
14 Sub-Saharan 0.09

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2 and 4 are the same, I updated and it moves forwards passing the cretans :

https://image.ibb.co/n6PSUk/dodecad.png

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2 and 4 are the same, I updated and it moves forwards passing the cretans :

https://image.ibb.co/n6PSUk/dodecad.png

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I am unsure who makes up Chios but I'll also give you more Chios and some Ikaria too if you'd like to make it a "North Aegean Islands" cluster. When you take Rhodes vs Crete, Rhodes may be more outlying but overall Crete is Greece's most MENA island.

I'll also add more Palermitans in there. I would update these also. Let me know also if you would like a SE Sicily reference or a Cyclades islands, which would be moving back toward Greece.

North Aegean Islands:
#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.22
2 West_Asian 14.71
3 West_Med 12.35
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 Baltic 10.58
6 North_Sea 9.44
7 Eastern_Euro 7.98
8 Red_Sea 6.3
9 Oceanian 0.71
10 South_Asian 0.37
11 Amerindian 0.19

#2:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.39
2 West_Asian 18.63
3 West_Med 15.63
4 Atlantic 10.65
5 Baltic 9.1
6 North_Sea 6.19
7 Eastern_Euro 5.03
8 Red_Sea 3.95
9 Amerindian 0.42

#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.12
2 West_Asian 19.48
3 West_Med 13.94
4 Atlantic 12.92
5 North_Sea 9.2
6 Baltic 8.44
7 Red_Sea 4.47
8 Eastern_Euro 2.83
9 Siberian 0.34
10 Sub-Saharan 0.24
11 Amerindian 0.01


#4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.62
2 West_Asian 20.82
3 West_Med 16.83
4 Atlantic 10.84
5 North_Sea 7.34
6 Baltic 5.57
7 Eastern_Euro 4.11
8 Red_Sea 3.57
9 Northeast_African 1.07
10 Oceanian 0.22


#5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.52
2 West_Med 18.34
3 West_Asian 14.03
4 North_Sea 12.39
5 Atlantic 10.77
6 Baltic 6.89
7 Eastern_Euro 5.08
8 Red_Sea 4.65
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 South_Asian 0.41


#6:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.65
2 West_Med 17.74
3 West_Asian 16.51
4 Atlantic 14.8
5 North_Sea 5.68
6 Red_Sea 4.46
7 Baltic 3.73
8 Eastern_Euro 3.41


#7:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.8
2 West_Med 18.51
3 West_Asian 18.09
4 Atlantic 10.26
5 North_Sea 9.98
6 Red_Sea 6.01
7 Baltic 5.93
8 Southeast_Asian 0.81
9 Northeast_African 0.53
10 Oceanian 0.08


#8:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.03
2 West_Asian 20.57
3 Atlantic 17.1
4 West_Med 15.09
5 Baltic 7.03
6 Red_Sea 5.69
7 Eastern_Euro 3.49


#9:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.78
2 West_Asian 19.32
3 West_Med 18.8
4 Atlantic 13.17
5 Baltic 6.81
6 Red_Sea 6.17
7 North_Sea 2.95
8 Eastern_Euro 2.83
9 Oceanian 0.17

#10:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.67
2 West_Med 15.66
3 West_Asian 14.08
4 Atlantic 11.53
5 North_Sea 10.92
6 Eastern_Euro 8.89
7 Red_Sea 6.21
8 Baltic 5.66
9 South_Asian 0.23
10 Northeast_African 0.15



Palermitans:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.08
2 West_Med 17.11
3 West_Asian 14.11
4 Atlantic 13.41
5 North_Sea 11.12
6 Red_Sea 7.27
7 Baltic 2.83
8 Northeast_African 1.33
9 Eastern_Euro 0.95
10 Sub-Saharan 0.73
11 Oceanian 0.59
12 Southeast_Asian 0.3
13 Siberian 0.18


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.68
2 West_Med 16.71
3 West_Asian 14.07
4 Atlantic 11.52
5 Baltic 8.79
6 North_Sea 8.75
7 Red_Sea 4.08
8 Eastern_Euro 2.73
9 Northeast_African 1.57
10 Sub-Saharan 1.01
11 Southeast_Asian 0.07


#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.17
2 West_Med 18.83
3 West_Asian 15.61
4 Atlantic 11.98
5 Baltic 6.77
6 North_Sea 6.09
7 Red_Sea 6
8 Eastern_Euro 1.78
9 Northeast_African 1.48
10 Sub-Saharan 0.71
11 Oceanian 0.58


#4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.26
2 Atlantic 19.88
3 West_Med 14.91
4 West_Asian 14.08
5 Red_Sea 6.55
6 Baltic 5.95
7 North_Sea 3.7
8 Eastern_Euro 2.32
9 Northeast_African 1.57
10 Sub-Saharan 0.76
11 Oceanian 0.6
12 Southeast_Asian 0.43


#5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.6
2 West_Asian 16.11
3 West_Med 14.93
4 Atlantic 14.87
5 North_Sea 9.46
6 Baltic 7.17
7 Red_Sea 5.82
8 Northeast_African 1.56
9 Eastern_Euro 1.46
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01


#6:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29
2 West_Med 19.35
3 West_Asian 14.74
4 North_Sea 13.04
5 Atlantic 10.79
6 Red_Sea 7.52
7 Baltic 2.97
8 Northeast_African 1.89
9 Sub-Saharan 0.59
10 Oceanian 0.12


#7:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.82
2 West_Med 18.83
3 Atlantic 16.22
4 West_Asian 16.21
5 North_Sea 7.42
6 Baltic 5.62
7 Red_Sea 4.81
8 Northeast_African 1.72
9 Sub-Saharan 0.33


#8:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.85
2 West_Med 21.13
3 West_Asian 17.23
4 Atlantic 13.76
5 North_Sea 6.24
6 Baltic 4.92
7 Red_Sea 4.61
8 Eastern_Euro 3.1
9 Oceanian 0.71
10 Northeast_African 0.55
11 Amerindian 0.45
12 Sub-Saharan 0.44


#9:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.59
2 West_Med 18.91
3 North_Sea 12.51
4 West_Asian 11.61
5 Atlantic 11.11
6 Red_Sea 6.53
7 Baltic 4.62
8 Sub-Saharan 0.79
9 Southeast_Asian 0.51
10 Eastern_Euro 0.42
11 Oceanian 0.25
12 Northeast_African 0.16


#10:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.56
2 West_Asian 19.56
3 West_Med 14.21
4 Atlantic 13.99
5 North_Sea 7.29
6 Red_Sea 6.65
7 Baltic 6.16
8 Eastern_Euro 1.46
9 Northeast_African 0.81
10 Sub-Saharan 0.23
11 Southeast_Asian 0.06
12 Amerindian 0.03


Cyclades Islands:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.15
2 West_Med 17.43
3 West_Asian 13.98
4 Atlantic 13.06
5 North_Sea 9.61
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Baltic 5.07
8 Eastern_Euro 3.32
9 Northeast_African 0.59
10 Sub-Saharan 0.09
11 Southeast_Asian 0.07


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Asian 17.27
3 West_Med 14.52
4 Atlantic 13.02
5 North_Sea 11.51
6 Baltic 9.23
7 Red_Sea 5.09
8 Eastern_Euro 2.17
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Amerindian 0.58
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Southeast_Asian 0.11


#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.5
2 West_Med 16.95
3 West_Asian 14.51
4 Atlantic 12.08
5 North_Sea 10.95
6 Baltic 6.54
7 Red_Sea 5.43
8 Siberian 0.82
9 Amerindian 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.75
11 Southeast_Asian 0.69
12 Sub-Saharan 0.04


#4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.98
2 West_Med 18.16
3 West_Asian 16.72
4 Atlantic 8.67
5 North_Sea 8.23
6 Eastern_Euro 5.38
7 Red_Sea 5.28
8 Baltic 3.34
9 South_Asian 0.23


#5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.7
2 West_Med 17.12
3 West_Asian 16.08
4 North_Sea 11.24
5 Atlantic 9.97
6 Baltic 6.69
7 Red_Sea 5.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.51
9 Oceanian 0.62
10 Siberian 0.49
11 Amerindian 0.46
12 Southeast_Asian 0.09


#6:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.64
2 West_Med 15.78
3 West_Asian 15.76
4 North_Sea 11.34
5 Atlantic 10.84
6 Eastern_Euro 6.31
7 Baltic 5.88
8 Red_Sea 5.3
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 Sub-Saharan 0.23


#7:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.2
2 West_Med 18.79
3 West_Asian 14.58
4 Atlantic 12.29
5 Baltic 9.7
6 Red_Sea 7.88
7 North_Sea 6.6
8 Eastern_Euro 2.54
9 Southeast_Asian 1.35
10 Oceanian 0.05


#8:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.8
2 West_Med 18.77
3 West_Asian 17.12
4 North_Sea 12.79
5 Baltic 6.8
6 Eastern_Euro 6.54
7 Atlantic 4.97
8 Red_Sea 3.84
9 South_Asian 0.28
10 Oceanian 0.09


#9:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.45
2 West_Med 20.77
3 West_Asian 14.56
4 North_Sea 10.34
5 Baltic 8.62
6 Atlantic 8.2
7 Red_Sea 5.82
8 South_Asian 1.66
9 Eastern_Euro 1.24
10 Oceanian 0.34


#10:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.85
2 West_Med 18.99
3 West_Asian 15.09
4 North_Sea 11.96
5 Atlantic 9.41
6 Eastern_Euro 5.23
7 Red_Sea 5.15
8 Baltic 5.13
9 Southeast_Asian 0.79
10 Oceanian 0.78
11 Amerindian 0.27
12 Siberian 0.25
13 Sub-Saharan 0.1

Add me in! 50% Greek, 50% Central Italian

1 East_Med 23.07
2 Atlantic 21.75
3 West_Med 16.59
4 West_Asian 14.72
5 Baltic 9.96
6 North_Sea 6.41
7 Eastern_Euro 4.03
8 Red_Sea 3.49