Can you tell me where it is save for me to live as an Ezdi Kurd in the historic lands in Kurdistan, and where I can build my future and future of my children without being afraid of being killed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
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Can you tell me where it is save for me to live as an Ezdi Kurd in the historic lands in Kurdistan, and where I can build my future and future of my children without being afraid of being killed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
I think Muslim Kurds in Iran are fairly safe and don't face any persecution. Persians are very close to them racially and culturally, so integration should be much easier than in white European countries or even Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
When Ottoman Turks committed a Genocide on my people 150 years ago, my people were rescued by the Russian Empire. 150 years ago my ancestors fled Kars-Wan region and moved to Armenia/Georgia which was at that time part of the Russian Empire. This is how my people ended up in Armenia/Georgia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Later on the USSR collapsed and my relatives emigrated out of Georgia.
We will see whether Yezidism will disappear or not. Only the weakest mix with the outsiders (and I have got a lot weak people within my family), but the strongest stay within our community.
There are big communities of Ezdi people in Armenia and Germany that are homogeneous and very cohesive. Those communities will survive.
By the way I have got close relatives living in Moscow who are professors and part of Kurdish intelligentsia.
Muslim Kurds in Iran are Sunni, while most Iranians are mostly Shia. Persians are Shia. And Shia don't like Sunnis. But nevertheless most Kurds in Iran/Eastern Kurdistan are very weak and don't want fight for their rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Also, Iranians almost wiped out Ezdi communities in Iran. Ezdi Kurds are afraid to show their identity, because of persecution and oppression by Muslims.
Area within Van-Kars are past of historic Armenia. The problem is that there are no Armenians left there. Most Armenians don't even want to live in Armenian. And there are not much Armenians that need and can repopulated such a huge areas. Only 3 million Armenians live in Armenia and even those Armenians don't want to stay in Armenia.Quote:
Originally Posted by SharpFork
Compare that with the 25 million Kurds in Northern Kurdistan.
Well, unfortunately it's true, the Yazidis are true refugees, they're not very welcome in the Middle East. Maybe in Bashar's Syria they were and would be okay but his country is basically torn the fuck apart at the moment and there is no end in sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
Most Ezdi Kurds in diaspora live in Germany. There are more than 100 thousand Ezdi Kurds in GermanyQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis_in_Germany
There is also a big diaspora in France/Belgium and still in Armenia. To bad that the most Ezdi Kurds left Georgia, because it is the best country for the Ezdi Kurds.
There are for about 61 thousand Ezdi Kurds living in Russia. Most of them came from Armenia and Georgia after the collapse of the USSR. But I hope those Ezdi Kurds who are not mixed with the Russians will leave Russia as soon as possible. Russia is not a good country for them. Russians are much more friendly toward the Turks. And Russians are goog at assimilating people. France is very friendly toward the Ezdi Kurds. But I hope they will move to the US.
And the first steps are taken!!
" In the United States, Yazidi communities exist in Lincoln, Nebraska and Houston, Texas. It is thought that Nebraska has the largest settlement (an estimated number of at least 10,000) of Yazidis in the United States, with a history of immigration to the state under refuge settlement programs starting in the late 1990s. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi_Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4KfMYObCUY
Ezdi cemetary in America: https://www.1011now.com/content/news...509139311.html
I don't like how Kurds behave in Germany to be honest. I don't know much about the Yazidi community though.
Our community center in Germany is in Oldenburg. In Germany live more Ezdi Kurds than in the whole (USSR) Russia, Ukraine, Armenia and Georgia combined, because of our recent exodus from Caucasus. Georgians were the best host population. We will always remember their hospitality. There are still few thousands Ezdi Kurds left in Georgia and we even have got our fire temple there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Ezdi Kurds are not Muslims, so it is very easy for us to adapt.
Do you know if the Mhallami people from Lebanon (originally from Mardin/Turkey) are Kurds or arabs? Lebanese people call them Kurds. They are known in Germany for being very criminal and scummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
Sorry, can't say something additional about them what you can't find on internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
As far as I know even Turks in Turkey consider places like Diyarbakır hellholes basically. Higher rates of illiteracy, underage marriages, poverty and crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Yes but they seem to be so different from their ethnic cousins aswell (persians..)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Because Turks are stealing our resources, but never invest in our region. Do you know that Mongoloid Turks bombed/depopulated thousands of villages in Kurdistan, made millions Kurds homeless in order to bring them to big Western Turkish cites and assimilate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Disgusting Mongoloid Denisovan Turks are destroying our homeland. It is a WAR in Northern Kurdistan. Turks are trying to destroy the Kurds. But there will be karma/vendetta big time.
" Other estimates have put the number of destroyed Kurdish villages at over 4,000. In total up to 3,000,000 people (mainly Kurds) have been displaced. An estimated of 1,000,000 are still internally displaced as of 2009. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdis...ated_by_Turkey
Do your people have any specific food? I don't know anything about your dietary habits, it's quite personal. Maybe you and your people just feed on Muslim food and globalist junk food like McDonald's :D The whole world is becoming like American fat fucks (I'm not trying to offend anyone with health problems).Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
Difficult to explain. I think of grar (soup made of yoghurt and some specific wheat in it), kofte dan ('kofte' made of pure grinded wheat with onions and butter) and 'tersho' (made of some kind of vegetable compared to spinach, but not really spinach).Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Armenians call 'grar' 'spas' I guess.
https://i.postimg.cc/5tPJX2hY/Armeni...oup-Spas-3.jpg
But I was born and raised in Georgia USSR and I'm used to food of that place (mostly Georgian) and of that era and I do still eat Russian borsj very often or Russian salad etc.
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Unfortunately there are no mainstream (Persian-speaking) Tajikistani samples on Global25, they obviously would have more 'Woggistani' blood than Pamiris. Only 4% of Tajikistan's population live in Badakhshan.
Btw, who are so the called Sintashta people? Did they even speak an Indo-European language? Did they achieve anything in their life? All I know is that they wiped out by other Mongoloid tribes.
It is more likely Sintashta people spoke a some kind Dibero-Uralic dialect.
Thousands of years later after they were wiped out from the face of earth, Aryan Medo-Persians (Western Iranians) found 2 biggest modern empires known for that time. Median and Achaemenid Empire were the true Aryan Empires and part of the Aryan civilization.
The Sintashta culture, also known as the Sintashta-Petrovka culture[1] or Sintashta-Arkaim culture,[2] is a Bronze Age archaeological culture of the northern Eurasian steppe on the borders of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, dated to the period 2100–1800 BCE.[3] The culture is named after the Sintashta archaeological site, in Chelyabinsk Oblast, Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
The Sintashta culture is widely regarded as the origin of the Indo-Iranian languages. The earliest known chariots have been found in Sintashta burials, and the culture is considered a strong candidate for the origin of the technology, which spread throughout the Old World and played an important role in ancient warfare.[4] Sintashta settlements are also remarkable for the intensity of copper mining and bronze metallurgy carried out there, which is unusual for a steppe culture.[5]
The people of the Sintashta culture are thought to have spoken Proto-Indo-Iranian, the ancestor of the Indo-Iranian language family. This identification is based primarily on similarities between sections of the Rig Veda, an Indian religious text which includes ancient Indo-Iranian hymns recorded in Vedic Sanskrit, with the funerary rituals of the Sintashta culture as revealed by archaeology.[12] There is linguistic evidence of interaction between Finno-Ugric and Indo-Iranian languages, showing influences from the Indo-Iranians into the Finno-Ugric culture.[13] From the Sintashta culture the Indo-Iranian languages migrated with the Indo-Iranians to Anatolia, India and Iran.[14][15] From the 9th century BCE onward, Iranian languages also migrated westward with the Scythians back to the Pontic steppe where the proto-Indo-Europeans came from.[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture
THEY WUZ ARYANZ
Dude, they couldn't even write. Why do people think spoke Indo-Iranian? They left nothing in written form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Chariots were already known among the Sumerians 1000 years before Sintashta culture and metallurgy is actually from Iran
Btw, ARYAN BMAC predate Sintashta culture also by thousands of years. BMAC was for sure Iranic, since it had many archaeological links with the Iranian Plateau
Nah, they were some brown farmers, possibly Dravidian. And then those whites came down from Chelyabinsk and race-mixed with them creating the hybrid BMAC/Steppe culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
They were much more advanced than Denisovan Sintashta folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Aryan BMAC (YAZ) Civilization dates back to 2400 BC.
Turco-Mongoloid Denisovan Sintashta dates back only to 2100 BC.
Ancient Aryan GUTI from Zagros mountains attacked Babylon (Sumero-Akkadians) already by 2212 BC. Even before Turco-Mongoloid Denisovan Sintashta evolved from the Mongoloid Okunev culture. Not much later Sintashta folks became Mongols.
But the Aryan history didn't stopped there. Kassites/Mitanni ruled over Northern Mesopotamia around 1600 BC and 1000 years later the REAL Aryans, the legendary Medes, destroyed the Assyrians/Akkadians and found the FIRST Aryan Empire. All those Aryans were Western Iranians.
Btw, warrior chariots are useless in Kurdistan, since there are mountains in Kurdistan. Noobdy can conquer Kurdistan with chariots and even today NOBODY can conquer Kurdistan with tanks. With other words, Kurdistan has never been conquered by anybody.
Stop repeating that nonsense, they were neither Turkic, nor Mongoloid. They were white, almost identical to the Corded Ware, unlike you brown guy! Accept that your language originated outside of the Middle East.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
No, they evolved from Okunev people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I have seen their DNA
They had some EHG, some Iranian Plateau DNA and some Mongoloid auDNA. They were Denisovan monkeys who later became known as Mongols and later as Russian Tatars.
Russians Tatars have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Aryans and Aryan Empires (like that of the Medes) in northern Mesopotamia.
You are an idiot, dude. I'm outta here.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
You are just a wannabe Aryan. Tell me what is you connection with the Medes, with the Aryan Magi tribe of the Median Empire? The 3 wise Kings of Media who followed the star of Bethlehem. What is your connection with the 'laws of the Medes and Persians'? With the modern treaties the Medes had with their enemies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
By the way, Denisovan Sintashta and other ancient Denisovan Steppes cultures had a lot Aryan Iranian Plateau auDNA in them, but there is not much of Steppes auDNA in Iran. What does this tell us? It means that real true Aryans from Iran migrated into the Steppes (via BMAC) while there was only a minor geneflow from the Steppes into Iran.
are there actual scholars or historians who call the Gutians, Kassites Aryan or Iranian? have I missed something? Stop talking out of your ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by MS85
Yeah, according to the Armenian Plateau hypothesis of Ivanov Gutians were Indo-European people. Just use google scholar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
At least Gutians could write and used Sumero-Akkadian writing. While retard Sintashta folks came even later and left nothing in written form. I don't even understand why people connect Denisovan folks to Indo-Europeans at the first place. Just show me with academic sources what language they spoke
From wikipaedia
Quote:
Aryan" (/ˈɛəriən/)[1] has as its root a term that was used as a self-designation by Indo-Iranian people.[note 1] The term was used by the Indo-Aryan people of the Vedic period in India as an ethnic label for themselves and later refer to the noble class as well as the geographic region known as Āryāvarta, where Indo-Aryan culture is based (in this region).[2][3] The Iranian people used the term as an ethnic label for themselves in the Avesta scriptures, and the word forms the etymological source of the country name Iran. It was believed in the 19th century that Aryan was also a self-designation used by all Proto-Indo-Europeans, a theory that has now been abandoned.[8] Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial
Drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda by Western scholars in the 19th century, the term "Aryan" was adopted as a racial category through the works of Arthur de Gobineau, whose ideology of race was based on an idea of blonde northern European "Aryans" who had migrated across the world and founded all major civilizations, before being diluted through racial mixing with local populations. Through the works of Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Gobineau's ideas later influenced the Nazi racial ideology which saw "Aryan peoples" as innately superior to other putative racial groups.[12]
Sintashta themselves didn’t march into Iran, Afghanistan or India. Their Saka, Alan, Parthian descendants did but those descendants were not pure Sintashta. Those descendants had picked up all sorts of admixture from central Asia and surrounding places and they were by no means Europeans.
Sintashta itself also had some sort of west Asian farmer ancestry. So when you consider all these things the folks that brought Indo-Iranian languages from the steppe were NOT Europeans
If you doubt what I'm saying just google 'Umman Manda' + Guti, Gutians, Gutium or Gudea and you will find many hits.
Umman Manda were Aryan people of Northern Mesopotamia since the third millennium BC.
The Aryan Mitanni/Matiene, Kassites, Medes, Gutians were all called 'Umman Manda' by the Semites.
https://i.postimg.cc/N0LSbx3j/gutians.jpg
https://www.academia.edu/5654237/The..._Hittite_Texts
I think no one here is arguing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
The Medes, Mitanni (Matiene) and Kassites were all Gutians, the same people.
https://i.postimg.cc/ryYdPyRy/Gudea.jpg
http://www.camrea.org/2016/10/11/kin...s-and-history/
A good match for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Largest segment = 4.8 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 204.2 cM (5.694 Pct)
175 shared segments found for this comparison.
861239 SNPs used for this comparison.
54.465 Pct SNPs are full identical
The Cyrus Cylinder from 539 BCE
https://i.postimg.cc/9MHMhztZ/cyrus-cilinder.jpg
On this cylinder it is also written:
"He made the land of Gutium and all the Umman-manda bow in submission at his feet. And he{I.e., Cyrus.}} shepherded with justice and righteousness all the black-headed people,"
https://www.livius.org/sources/conte...r-translation/
Here we have a fact that Cyrus related/connected Gutium/Gutians with the Aryan Umman-manda. According to Cyrus 'Umman-manda' folks (Aryans) were the black-headed people.
The Aryan Medes, Aryan Gutians and all other Aryan Umman-manda folks were the black-headed people. The Aryan Medes were also dark. It means for the West Iranic Kurds, that the darkest Kurds are actually closest in looks to the ancient Aryans of Kurdistan.
And who were the ancient Gutian Umman-manda? I'm lazy, so I'm going to use wiki:
" The homeland of Umman Manda seems to be somewhere from Central Anatolia to north or northeastern Babylonia in what later came to be known as Mitanni, Mannae and Media, respectively. Zaluti, whose name seems to have an Indo-Iranian etymology, is mentioned as a leader of Ummanda Manda. He is even suggested to be identified with Salitis the founder of the Hyksos, the Fifteenth dynasty of Egypt.
In the first millennium BC, the term denoted Cimmerians and/or Medes. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umman_Manda
So why is the idiot Davidski and a few other idiots we know about playing mind games by pushing their European dominance agenda and brainwashing everyone including folks here to use Sintashta to model west Asians or south Asians in G25, and doing everything they can to coerce people into not using the actual steppe proxies from the Iron Age that brought Indo-Iranian languages into Iran, Afghanistan, and India such as Saka, Alans, and Sarmatians in his G25.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Sadly the subtle mental coersion and brainwashing seems to have worked because people here and other places will use unlikely proxies such as Sintashta and Han or Dai of all things but avoid using Saka, Sarmatians and Alans in G25. :picard1: