Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Unfortunately not, user Mingle does but he is not active lately.

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This mingle guy is funny. He knows more about the Balkan’s then us. He’s Indian but has a lot of interest in us. It’s cool.

https://i.imgur.com/ghbU0JQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yH819lh.jpg

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Originally Posted by Vojnik

This mingle guy is funny. He knows more about the Balkan’s then us. He’s Indian but has a lot of interest in us. It’s cool.

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He's a Pashtun, not Indian. And he didn't have much interest to begin with, but focused on some other regions instead. The constant heated debates between Balkan users on other forums like reddit attracted his attention.

MJ12_Thracian, Scy192 and scy197 on K13 Updated with added Macedonian references from this kits.

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Distance to:        MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
5.00703505        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
5.91252061        Albanian
5.97580957        Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
6.53342177        Greek_Peloponnese
6.98085955        Macedonian8
7.02896152        Greek_Thessaly
7.12562980        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
7.17814043        Macedonian2
7.25505639        Kosovo_Albanian
7.26464498        GR_Macedonia
7.48590008        Macedonian16
7.70387565        Macedonian13
7.72338920        Bulgarian_Thrace
7.77039253        Greek_Western-Thrace
7.82349027        Macedonian_Central3
7.88560714        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.89932276        Greek_Thessaloniki
7.90599772        Macedonian1
7.95900119        Greek_Eastern-Thrace
8.33160099        GR_Peloponese
8.77275897        Macedonian12
8.83684333        Macedonian18
8.84558647        MacedonianI-Z17855
8.86488015        Macedonian_Central
8.86873159        Macedonian_Southwest

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Distance to:        scy192_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp
3.90220451        Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
3.92116054        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
4.25767542        Albanian
4.97490703        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
5.51688206        Kosovo_Albanian
5.74342232        Greek_Peloponnese
5.79906889        Macedonian2
5.96184535        Greek_Thessaly
6.05891079        Macedonian16
6.16894643        Macedonian_Central3
6.32176399        Greek_Western-Thrace
7.13965685        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.14249956        Macedonian8
7.19249609        Macedonian13
7.32984311        MacedonianI2a2
7.35713939        Vlach_North-Macedonia
7.42800108        Greek_Central-Macedonia
7.46892228        Greek_Thessaloniki
7.47608855        Macedonian1
7.66047431        GR_Macedonia
7.73618123        Macedonian18
7.76470379        GR_Peloponese
7.82357801        Bulgarian_Thrace
7.98338274        Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.18838201        Macedonian9

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Distance to:        scy197_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp
6.73601514        Albanian
7.29365478        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
7.64342855        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
7.81294439        Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.00438005        Macedonian16
8.25502877        MacedonianI2a2
8.25900115        Macedonian2
8.32019831        Tuscany
8.67419160        Macedonian_Central3
8.75502142        Romagna
8.80964490        Kosovo_Albanian
9.00502082        Macedonian19
9.05566673        Macedonian3
9.07667340        Greek_Western-Thrace
9.21926244        Vlach_North-Macedonia
9.23403487        FrenchCorsica
9.45345440        Emilia
9.46202410        Tuscan
9.46972544        Macedonian9
9.53248656        MacedonianEV-13
9.54204381        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
9.55164384        Greek_Thessaly
9.57414226        Macedonian18
9.60281729        Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.68273722        Lazio

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Full Macedonian from my city (North part of Country - Torlakian) very weird results , low North Atlantic but high West Asian.

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Population       
North_Atlantic        19.40 Pct
Baltic        22.18 Pct
West_Med        17.73 Pct
West_Asian        15.66 Pct
East_Med        22.80 Pct
Red_Sea        1.27 Pct
South_Asian        0.15  Pct 
East_Asian        0.22 Pct
Siberian        0.35 Pct
Amerindian        0.05 Pct
Oceanian        -
Northeast_African 0.2 Pct 
Sub-Saharan 0.06 Pct

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Distance to:        Kumanovo
3.76961536        Pomak_Drama
3.85368655        Macedonian_Greece
4.22191899        Pomak_Nevrokopi
4.68581903        Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.01283353        Macedonian_Southeast
5.05357299        Pomak_Komotini
5.10637836        Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.29387382        GR_Macedonia
5.41125679        Turk_Drama
5.48049268        Turk_Thessaloniki
5.53138319        Macedonian_Central
5.59921423        Bulgarian
5.76300269        Greek_Western-Macedonia
5.78880817        Turk_Kavala
5.79456525        Bulgarian_Thrace
6.01293605        Greek_Thessaloniki
6.40344439        Bulgarian_Plovdiv
6.43473387        Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
6.47126726        Romanian_Muntenia
6.62192570        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
6.73441163        Bulgarian_Gabrovo
6.84258633        Kosovo_Albanian
6.87104796        Moldova_South
6.94933090        Turk_Xanthi
7.04325919        Bulgarian_Burgas

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Target: Kumanovo
Distance: 0.6297% / 0.62970501
28.8        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
23.8        Macedonian_Greece
21.6        Bulgarian_Burgas
7.0        Greek_Trabzon
4.4        South_Polish
3.2        Greek_Northern-Thrace
3.0        Greek_Thessaloniki
2.6        Laz
2.6        Pomak_Xanthi
2.0        Belorussian
1.0        Latvian

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New Macedonian gedmatch from Tetovo (Northwest) - BW1528752.

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Population       
North_Atlantic        20.54 Pct
Baltic        22.38 Pct
West_Med        18.40 Pct
West_Asian        10.38 Pct
East_Med        21.89 Pct
Red_Sea        4.34 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        -   
Siberian        0.17 Pct
Amerindian        1.16 Pct
Oceanian        0.74 Pct
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        -

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Y-dna from morley predictor.
https://i.imgur.com/hBurF9S.jpg

Its very close to Macedonian user *****, also their Surname is same just sufix is different OV and SKI.

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Distance to:        TETOVO
1.80546393        Macedonian_*****
3.61984806        Pomak_Nevrokopi
4.06906623        Bulgarian
4.16458882        Macedonian_North
4.35014942        Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.35959645        North_Macedonian
4.51532945        Moldova_South
4.63590336        Vlach_North-Macedonia
4.72545236        Bulgarian_Serres
4.75884440        Bulgarian_Plovdiv
4.76218437        Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
4.83557649        Romanian_Muntenia
4.96447379        Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.04105148        Bulgarian_Central
5.05902164        Macedonian_East
5.07908456        Greek_Thessaloniki
5.17640802        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
5.26358243        Macedonian_Central
5.31499765        Macedonian_Southwest
5.35217713        Macedonian_Northwest
5.50249864        Macedonian
5.57222577        Romanian_Wallachia_average
5.97301431        Albanian_Montenegro
6.08639466        Macedonian_Southeast
6.23261582        Pomak_Drama
6.25245186        Kosovo_Albanian
6.40136704        Turk_Thessaloniki
6.42242945        Albanian_Kosovo
6.45455653        Greek_Central-Macedonia
6.49097065        Turk_Dobrich
6.51705455        Albanian
6.60975037        Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
6.63295560        Romanian_Oltenia
6.69399731        Albanian_north_Albania
6.69666335        Albanian_Macedonia
6.75273444        Bulgarian_Thrace
6.93660580        Greek_Western-Macedonia
7.03508351        Bulgarian_Sofia
7.12178348        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
7.17524216        Pomak_Central-Macedonia
7.26636773        Albanian_Albania
7.26766125        Montenegrin
7.30128756        Bosniak_Sandzak
7.30305416        Macedonian_Greece
7.39744551        Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
7.43341106        Turk_Alexandroupoli
7.45635300        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
7.53426174        Romanian_Transylvania
7.65845285        GR_Macedonia
7.72148302        Turk_N-Macedonia

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Ancient K13

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Target: TETOVO
Distance: 1.6692% / 1.66915038 | ADC: 0.25x
48.6        R970_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
25.2        scy192_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp
9.8        Pazyryk_IA_Be11
4.6        MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
4.0        AED513_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1528_ybp
3.0        vik_kal009_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp
2.2        MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
1.6        Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
1.0        RISE480_Hungary_Vatya.SG_3550_ybp

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Distance to:        TETOVO
9.75914443        scy192_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp
10.00002000        SZ1.SG_longobard_hungary
10.21695160        SZ1_Hungary_BA.SG_3950_ybp
10.47964217        R970_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
10.64450093        MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
10.96118607        STR310_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
11.54786560        NW54_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1491_ybp
11.68126705        scy197_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp
12.09895863        DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
12.33136246        SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_60th_century
12.47949919        SZ36_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
12.88440918        R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy
13.16600547        I4124_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4284_ybp
13.55704245        AED513_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1528_ybp
13.73372491        SZ32_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
13.74345299        R60_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
14.02342326        SZ37_Hungary_Langobard_1447_ybp
14.13255108        I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp
14.40098261        I7043_Hungary_BA_4000_ybp
14.51611174        R121_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
14.72491087        R55_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
14.77987145        scy305_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2254_ybp
14.79207896        R1549_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
14.83494860        R61_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
14.84602304        scy300_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2253_ybp

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K15 pca for BW1528752
https://i.imgur.com/uDrvtt0.jpg

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

K15 pca for BW1528752
https://i.imgur.com/uDrvtt0.jpg

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Seems like he is very close to the average Macedonian.

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Originally Posted by Lioncourt

Seems like he is very close to the average Macedonian.

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Idk what is Macedonian average , but this is fourth Nortwest-Northeast result same or very similar.
Also here's his look and MyHeritage results if you are interested.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...63#post6671063

Macedonian gedmatch kit from Macedonian dna project i think this guy live in Romania and its obviously mixed.
GEDmatch HZ2466853 - YFull T-Y10641, haplogroup T-FGC40334.
I posted once on another thread but i dont have it here.

puntDNAL K13

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +50% Norwegian @ 3.231880


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Mordovian +25% Orcadian @ 2.172106


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 English + French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Mordovian @ 1.604690
2 Albanian + English + French_Basque + Mordovian @ 1.620358
3 Albanian + French_Basque + Mordovian + Scottish @ 1.637802
4 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Mordovian + Scottish @ 1.641061
5 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Mordovian + Orcadian @ 1.681345
6 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Irish + Mordovian @ 1.703614
7 Albanian + French_Basque + Mordovian + Orcadian @ 1.723716
8 Albanian + French_Basque + Irish + Mordovian @ 1.754375
9 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Mordovian + Utahn_European @ 1.773857
10 Albanian + French_Basque + German_South + Mordovian @ 1.796703
11 English + French_Basque + Kosovar + Mordovian @ 1.797726
12 French_Basque + Italian_Bergamo + Moldavian + Mordovian @ 1.843371
13 French_Basque + German_South + Kosovar + Mordovian @ 1.866844
14 French_Basque + German_South + Greek_Thessaly + Mordovian @ 1.869772
15 Albanian + French_Basque + Mordovian + Utahn_European @ 1.875856
16 Bulgarian + French_Basque + German_South + Mordovian @ 1.888799
17 French_Basque + Kosovar + Mordovian + Scottish @ 1.912324
18 French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + Mordovian + Norwegian @ 1.918748
19 Albanian + French_Basque + Hungarian + Mordovian @ 1.974646
20 French_Basque + Kosovar + Mordovian + Orcadian @ 1.980204

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Eurogenes K13

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#                Primary Population (source)        Secondary Population (source)        Distance
1                56.1%        North_Swedish        +        43.9%        Tuscan        @        3.86

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K13 Eurogenes Ancient

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Distance: 2.0488% / 2.04884859 | ADC: 0.5x
28.0        I5529_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4250_ybp
24.4        ANI163_Bulgaria_Varna_EN3_6577_ybp
18.6        R1224_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
17.2        R1288_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
5.8        SZ18_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
3.8        I4945_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4168_ybp
2.0        AED513_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1528_ybp
0.2        France_IA_COL153A

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Macedonian kit from Northwest - BW1528752 on K15 Eurogenes.

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Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Macedonian_2  @ 4,327
2 100% Bulgarian  @ 4,640
3 100% Gagauz  @ 4,961
4 100% Macedonian  @ 6,143
5 100% Albanian-Macedonia  @ 6,201
6 100% Kosovo_Albanian  @ 6,618
7 100% Romania_South  @ 6,710
8 100% Albanian-Kosovo  @ 6,860
9 100% GR_Macedonia  @ 7,280
10 100% Bulgarian_Thracian  @ 7,502

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Bulgarian_Thracian + 50% Romania_Se  @ 3,430
2 50% Bulgarian + 50% Albanian-Macedonia  @ 3,531
3 50% Romania_South + 50% Bulgarian_Thracian  @ 3,535
4 50% Romania_Sw + 50% Greek  @ 3,541
5 50% Bulgarian_Thracian + 50% Romania_Sw  @ 3,594
6 50% Bulgarian_Thracian + 50% Montenegrin  @ 3,640
7 50% Bulgarian + 50% Bulgarian_Thracian  @ 3,726
8 50% Macedonian + 50% Bulgarian_Thracian  @ 3,756
9 50% Gagauz + 50% Albanian-Macedonia  @ 3,794
10 50% GR_Macedonia + 50% Romania_Sw  @ 3,800

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Macedonian_2 + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian_Thracian  @ 3,064
2 33% Italy_West_Sicily + 33% Italy_West_Sicily + 33% Lithuanian  @ 3,088
3 33% Bulgarian_Thracian + 33% Romania_Sw + 33% Greek_Thessaly  @ 3,098
4 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Lithuanian  @ 3,205
5 33% Italy_Central_Sicily + 33% Italy_West_Sicily + 33% Lithuanian  @ 3,216
6 33% Bulgarian_Thracian + 33% Albanian-North + 33% Bosniak  @ 3,216
7 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Italy_Central_Sicily + 33% Lithuanian  @ 3,258
8 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Bulgarian_Thracian  @ 3,297
9 33% Greek_Thessaly + 33% Greek + 33% Bosniak  @ 3,297
10 33% Bulgarian_Thracian + 33% Albanian-North + 33% Romania_Nw  @ 3,312

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Edit: Also did DNA.LAND
https://i.imgur.com/51AawuI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3tjiaEE.jpg

New Macedonian kit from Bitola but Family from Lerin (North Greece now) - A642815
And now i saw, its used for Macedonian_Greece reference on K13 Eurogenes.

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Population       
North_Atlantic        16.58 Pct
Baltic        23.42 Pct
West_Med        18.82 Pct
West_Asian        14.49 Pct
East_Med        23.78 Pct
Red_Sea        0.88 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        1.48 Pct
Siberian        0.25 Pct
Amerindian        -   
Oceanian        0.12 Pct
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        0.18 Pct

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Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Central +25% Italian_Tuscan +25% Mordovian @ 1.849892

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K13

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Distance to:        Lerin
4.32989607        Greek_Northern-Thrace
4.40205634        Pomak_Komotini
5.06688267        Pomak_Drama
5.09092134        Bulgarian_Thrace
5.36639233        GR_Macedonia
5.66901226        Pomak_Nevrokopi
5.73589575        Macedonian_Central
5.86059724        Turk_Drama
5.94042928        Greek_Thessaloniki
6.14166915        Turk_Thessaloniki
6.18271785        Macedonian_Southwest
7.03134411        Macedonian_North
7.10732017        Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
7.10992968        Bulgarian
7.12199410        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.44545499        Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
7.58841881        Turk_Xanthi
7.64189113        Greek_Eastern-Thrace
7.77897808        Albanian_Montenegro
7.84520236        Macedonian_Southeast
7.87750595        *****
7.99098242        Romanian_Muntenia
8.06311974        Turk_Dobrich
8.18235907        Moldova_South
8.34333866        Greek_Western-Macedonia

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K15 pca
https://i.imgur.com/ehq8yWH.jpg

ALSO on EUROGENES K13 sample with name VLACH_NORTH-MACEDONIA-HIGHLANDER is Macedonian user ***** not Vlach.

If you have the regional breakdown for those samples we can update the Macedonian averages.

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ALSO on EUROGENES K13 sample with name VLACH_NORTH-MACEDONIA-HIGHLANDER is Macedonian user ***** not Vlach.

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His results are similar to the Vlach speakers from Gevgelija rather than ethnic Macedonians. Non-Highlander Vlach from Macedonia is Vlach speaker, you will see two almost have identical results.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Lerin

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Where is Lerin?

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

If you have the regional breakdown for those samples we can update the Macedonian averages.

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This new kit from yeastarday BW1528752 is Macedonian guy from Tetovo, but other idk.
There is many results with region but just posted on forum without kits.I will try to find the region of these Macedonian kits.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

If you have the regional breakdown for those samples we can update the Macedonian averages.



His results are similar to the Vlach speakers from Gevgelija rather than ethnic Macedonians. Non-Highlander Vlach from Macedonia is Vlach speaker, you will see two almost have identical results.

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Thats not true, you can check all kits i posted , even this guy from yestarday from Tetovo is very close to him.

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Where is Lerin?

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Φλώρινα

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Thats not true, you can check all kits i posted , even this guy from yestarday from Tetovo is very close to him.

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Distance to: Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
3.66697423 Vlach_North-Macedonia -> This one is Vlach speaker

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

Distance to: Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
3.66697423 Vlach_North-Macedonia -> This one is Vlach speaker

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Yeah i know , so that means on this last kit Macedonian_Greece closest sample is Greek_Northern_Thrace you can write it like that if you want ? :)
Like on this thread from 28 kits i posted all of them have Vlach_North_Macedonia in first 10 closest , even few of them like closest...

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

ALSO on EUROGENES K13 sample with name VLACH_NORTH-MACEDONIA-HIGHLANDER is Macedonian user ***** not Vlach.

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isn't he ethnically Vlach?

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

isn't he ethnically Vlach?

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No he is Macedonian.This is my point ,all Macedonian kits i posted here is in first 50 closest to Vlach_North_Macedonia , even ***** is not no1,other Macedonian kits are, so Vlach_North_Macedonia is not different than Macedonian result.

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Distance to:        Vlach_North-Macedonia
3.26291281        Macedonian14
3.35590524        Macedonian16
3.55574184        Macedonian2
3.66697423        *****
3.79058043        Macedonian3
3.91461349        Kosovo_Albanian
3.94906318        Macedonian13
4.02385387        Albanian_Kosovo
4.13471054        North_Macedonian
4.18132754        MacedonianI2a2
4.40844644        Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
4.69486954        Bulgarian_Plovdiv
4.81666897        MacedonianEV-13
4.87131399        Macedonian10
4.89497702        Macedonian_Southeast
4.89898969        Greek_Central-Macedonia
4.96505790        Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.11829073        Bulgarian_Serres
5.15262069        Macedonian7
5.21273441        Bulgarian_Central
5.35772340        Macedonian_Northwest
5.37985130        Albanian
5.40880763        Moldova_South
5.43513569        Albanian_Montenegro
5.52200145        Pomak_Nevrokopi
5.56659681        Albanian_north_Albania
5.58783500        Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
5.63889174        Bulgarian
5.68591242        Macedonian_North
5.78089093        Macedonian_Central
5.80339556        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
5.80525624        Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.81604677        Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
5.90335498        Macedonian18
5.91021150        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
5.96690875        Macedonian8
6.00467318        Macedonian11
6.02793497        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
6.05198315        Macedonian_East
6.06240876        Macedonian4
6.08185005        Macedonian17
6.09923766        Greek_Western-Macedonia
6.19318173        Macedonian5
6.41039780        Romanian_Muntenia
6.45283659        Albanian_Albania
6.49358915        Albanian_Macedonia
6.58057748        Turk_Kavala
6.58719212        Romanian_Wallachia_average
6.66373769        Macedonian1
6.67097444        Greek_Thessaloniki

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Yeah i know , so that means on this last kit Macedonian_Greece closest sample is Greek_Northern_Thrace you can write it like that if you want ? :)
Like on this thread from 28 kits i posted all of them have Vlach_North_Macedonia in first 10 closest , even few of them like closest...

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Well, it is not the same thing, you know. ***** and other Vlach sample is from similar regions and have identical results. If I recall correctly he identified Vlach from time to time, 2 years ago while he was active in this forum. That's why he is in the SS.

Of course, we can correct it if something is really wrong here.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

Well, it is not the same thing, you know. ***** and other Vlach sample is from similar regions and have identical results. If I recall correctly he identified Vlach from time to time, 2 years ago while he was active in this forum. That's why he is in the SS.

Of course, we can correct it if something is really wrong here.

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But you can see post above , even he is not closest to Vlach_North_Macedonia with all Macedonian kits, Vlach_North_Macedonia is same like Macedonian results, of course is wrong. :)
Btw i never saw he identified himself like Vlach.

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Where is Lerin?

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i didnt see your post, its Florina.

Macedonian kit from Bitola M000728.

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Population       
North_Atlantic        24.02 Pct
Baltic        22.65 Pct
West_Med        17.23 Pct
West_Asian        11.73 Pct
East_Med        19.19 Pct
Red_Sea        4.33 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        -   
Siberian        -   
Amerindian        0.72 Pct
Oceanian        -   
Northeast_African        0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan        -

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His father (with family from Lerin and Bitola) - UU3231267

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Population       
North_Atlantic        20.28 Pct
Baltic        21.94 Pct
West_Med        18.56 Pct
West_Asian        10.83 Pct
East_Med        24.93 Pct
Red_Sea        2.39 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        -   
Siberian        0.35 Pct
Amerindian        0.36 Pct
Oceanian        0.10 Pct
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        0.26 Pct

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Distance to:        Macedonian_Bitola_Lerin
2.66703956        Greek_Thessaloniki
3.57141429        Greek_Northern-Thrace
3.76676254        Turk_Thessaloniki
3.86445339        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
4.04604745        Macedonian_Southeast2
4.62109294        Albanian_Montenegro
4.73020084        Bulgarian_Plovdiv
4.86651826        Macedonian_Southwest
5.04073394        Bulgarian_Thrace
5.17597334        Pomak_Nevrokopi
5.21618635        Macedonian_North
5.27089177        Macedonian_East
5.50915885        North_Macedonian
5.65907236        Bulgarian
5.66993827        Albanian
5.75919265        Greek_Western-Macedonia
5.93994949        Macedonian_Greece
6.03857599        Albanian_north_Albania
6.12005719        Albanian_Macedonia
6.15382978        Kosovo_Albanian
6.15516856        Albanian_Albania
6.16546565        GR_Macedonia
6.17832502        Macedonian_Central
6.34753495        Albanian_Kosovo
6.49417431        Greek_Central-Macedonia
6.51763761        Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
6.53283246        Greek_Thessaly
6.58698717        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
6.58836854        Albanian_south_Albania
6.62797858        Pomak_Drama
6.66913788        Bulgarian_Central
6.74431613        Vlach_North-Macedonia
6.77585419        Romanian_Muntenia
6.82641927        Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
6.90748145        Greek_Eastern-Thrace
6.94159924        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
6.96323201        Albanian_central_Albania
6.96468233        Moldova_South
7.07792342        Macedonian_Southeast
7.10211940        Turk_Kazanlik
7.15371232        Turk_Alexandroupoli
7.26662232        Bulgarian_Gabrovo
7.28178550        Macedonian_Northwest
7.36081008        GR_Peloponese
7.41791595        Macedonian
7.42403529        Pomak_Plovdiv
7.56183179        Bulgarian_Serres
7.66594417        Romanian_Wallachia_average

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Macedonian kit with Ancestors from Pella and Bitola - AN7724719

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Population       
North_Atlantic        25.50 Pct
Baltic        20.04 Pct
West_Med        18.87 Pct
West_Asian        10.65 Pct
East_Med        19.83 Pct
Red_Sea        4.11 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        0.59 Pct
Siberian        0.10 Pct
Amerindian        0.30 Pct
Oceanian        -   
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        -

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Distance to:        Macedonian_Bitola_Pella
3.44603123        North_Macedonian
3.90974424        Vlach_North-Macedonia
4.00088740        Bulgarian_Central
4.17512874        Bulgarian_Plovdiv
4.80493496        Bulgarian_Serres
4.98425521        Macedonian_Southeast2
5.09640069        Macedonian_Northwest
5.14810645        Greek_Central-Macedonia
5.41917890        Albanian_Kosovo
5.42276682        Macedonian_East
5.43600025        Kosovo_Albanian
5.55059456        Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.60849356        Bulgarian_Southwest
5.62793923        Bulgarian_Gabrovo
6.11861608        Macedonian
6.15519293        Bulgarian
6.20050804        Moldova_South
6.25931306        Romanian_Oltenia
6.36348961        Romanian_Wallachia_average
6.39209668        Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
6.47573162        Bosniak_Sandzak
6.50024615        Greek_Western-Macedonia
6.55638620        Montenegrin
6.61204204        Macedonian_Southeast
6.65734932        Romanian_Muntenia
6.72814982        Pomak_Central-Macedonia
6.86777256        Albanian_north_Albania
6.99607033        Pomak_Nevrokopi
7.02361018        Albanian
7.03985795        Albanian_Montenegro
7.05063827        Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
7.15378921        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
7.18707868        Turk_Kavala
7.36167780        Macedonian_North
7.40905527        Turk_Alexandroupoli
7.52466611        Albanian_Macedonia
7.54350051        Romanian_Transylvania
7.74079453        Vlach_Central-Macedonia
7.97206372        Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.16646802        Macedonian_Central
8.19980488        Albanian_Albania
8.24585350        Romania_Moldavia_South
8.52475220        Greek_Thessaloniki
8.55569401        Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
8.60793239        Friuli-VG

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Macedonian kit with Ancestors from Pella and Bitola - AN7724719 mixed-mode k13.

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#                Primary Population (source)        Secondary Population (source)        Distance
1                57.4%        Central_Greek        +        42.6%        East_German        @        1.51
2                69.1%        Romanian        +        30.9%        Tuscan        @        1.58
3                63.9%        Serbian        +        36.1%        West_Sicilian        @        1.66
4                54.3%        Central_Greek        +        45.7%        Austrian        @        1.69
5                55.7%        East_Sicilian        +        44.3%        East_German        @        1.74
6                68.1%        Greek_Thessaly        +        31.9%        Austrian        @        1.75
7                61.5%        Serbian        +        38.5%        Italian_Abruzzo        @        1.79
8                78.2%        Greek_Thessaly        +        21.8%        Swedish        @        1.89
9                52.6%        East_Sicilian        +        47.4%        Austrian        @        1.9
10                78.6%        Greek_Thessaly        +        21.4%        Norwegian        @        2.03
11                57.7%        Italian_Abruzzo        +        42.3%        Croatian        @        2.1
12                75.9%        Greek_Thessaly        +        24.1%        North_German        @        2.13
13                53.8%        Hungarian        +        46.2%        South_Italian        @        2.16
14                71%        Greek_Thessaly        +        29%        East_German        @        2.19
15                68.8%        Italian_Abruzzo        +        31.2%        Polish        @        2.19
16                69.9%        Serbian        +        30.1%        South_Italian        @        2.19
17                77.5%        Greek_Thessaly        +        22.5%        North_Dutch        @        2.21
18                51.5%        South_Italian        +        48.5%        East_German        @        2.26
19                63.3%        West_Sicilian        +        36.7%        South_Polish        @        2.27
20                57.5%        Serbian        +        42.5%        Tuscan        @        2.32

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Would be nice if you made regional averages for Macedonia and send them to Vahaduo.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Would be nice if you made regional averages for Macedonia and send them to Vahaduo.

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Kaspias working on it i think , i send him gedmatches with region name..
But it seems , Nortwest kits is same/similar like Southeast and East kits are similar/same with Southwest.
I want to say regional for small country like Macedonia will not have some difference.

Macedonians from Central part i think , without Gedmatch kits.

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.08
2 North_Atlantic 22.74
3 Baltic 18.12
4 West_Med 16.81
5 West_Asian 15.16
6 Red_Sea 2.54
7 East_Asian 0.97
8 Oceanian 0.25
9 Amerindian 0.24
10 Sub-Saharan 0.07
11 Siberian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.35
2 Bulgarian 6.67
3 Romanian 8.08
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.01
5 Central_Greek 11.19
6 Tuscan 11.9
7 Serbian 12.15
8 East_Sicilian 12.72
9 West_Sicilian 12.74
10 North_Italian 14.69
11 Ashkenazi 14.9
12 South_Italian 15.39
13 Moldavian 18.29
14 Hungarian 19.93
15 Sephardic_Jewish 20.88
16 Italian_Jewish 21.14
17 Croatian 21.21
18 Algerian_Jewish 21.65
19 Portuguese 21.66
20 Austrian 21.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 23.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.26
2 76.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 23.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.6
3 61.4% Bulgarian + 38.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.8
4 54.7% Austrian + 45.3% Cyprian @ 2.83
5 80.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.6% Lithuanian @ 2.96
6 52.2% East_German + 47.8% Cyprian @ 2.97
7 77.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 22.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.97
8 56% Romanian + 44% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.98
9 79.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.8% Erzya @ 3.02
10 64.7% Central_Greek + 35.3% Hungarian @ 3.07
11 75.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 24.9% Ukrainian @ 3.1
12 78.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.6% Belorussian @ 3.12
13 65.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 34.5% Moldavian @ 3.13
14 78.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.15
15 74.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 25.3% South_Polish @ 3.25
16 74.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 25.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.26
17 59.2% Romanian + 40.8% Central_Greek @ 3.27
18 78.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.31
19 77% Italian_Abruzzo + 23% Polish @ 3.34
20 68.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.1% Croatian @ 3.36

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.27
2 East_Med 21.44
3 West_Med 21.03
4 Baltic 18.11
5 West_Asian 12.14
6 Red_Sea 1.9
7 Amerindian 1.12
8 East_Asian 0.82
9 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.71
2 Bulgarian 6.29
3 Romanian 7.5
4 Tuscan 9.61
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.66
6 North_Italian 11.27
7 Serbian 11.52
8 Central_Greek 11.86
9 West_Sicilian 12.04
10 East_Sicilian 13.24
11 South_Italian 15.72
12 Ashkenazi 15.83
13 Moldavian 17.74
14 Portuguese 18.57
15 Spanish_Extremadura 19.06
16 Hungarian 19.35
17 Spanish_Galicia 19.49
18 Spanish_Cataluna 20.19
19 Spanish_Murcia 20.21
20 Spanish_Andalucia 20.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.3% Bulgarian + 38.7% Tuscan @ 2.21
2 62.7% Romanian + 37.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.72
3 66.5% Central_Greek + 33.5% East_German @ 2.77
4 81.5% Greek_Thessaly + 18.5% West_German @ 2.78
5 86.6% Greek_Thessaly + 13.4% Irish @ 2.79
6 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% South_Dutch @ 2.81
7 86.3% Greek_Thessaly + 13.7% Orcadian @ 2.81
8 86.1% Greek_Thessaly + 13.9% Southwest_English @ 2.82
9 86.9% Greek_Thessaly + 13.1% Norwegian @ 2.84
10 85.5% Greek_Thessaly + 14.5% Southeast_English @ 2.86
11 86.2% Greek_Thessaly + 13.8% North_Dutch @ 2.87
12 86.9% Greek_Thessaly + 13.1% West_Scottish @ 2.88
13 80.8% Greek_Thessaly + 19.2% Austrian @ 2.9
14 86.9% Greek_Thessaly + 13.1% Swedish @ 2.94
15 85.4% Greek_Thessaly + 14.6% North_German @ 2.94
16 86.3% Greek_Thessaly + 13.7% Danish @ 2.95
17 69.1% Romanian + 30.9% South_Italian @ 2.96
18 67.8% Bulgarian + 32.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.96
19 82.5% Greek_Thessaly + 17.5% East_German @ 2.99
20 59.8% Romanian + 40.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.04

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Macedonians from Central part i think , without Gedmatch kits.

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These two seem to have some of the lowest Baltic for Slavs.

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Originally Posted by Lioncourt

These two seem to have some of the lowest Baltic for Slavs.

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Yeah , that would be Central and West part of Country with lowest Baltic, also Southeast.
https://i.imgur.com/ra554Jc.jpg

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Yeah , that would be Central and West part of Country with lowest Baltic, also Southeast.

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I have seen one Bulgarian result with such low Baltic, but it is exception, southern plotting Bulgarians have low North Atlantic instead.

Macedonian from Stip.The reference Macedonian_East from K13 Eurogenes.

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Population       
North_Atlantic        23.40 Pct
Baltic        22.77 Pct
West_Med        19.90 Pct
West_Asian        8.95 Pct
East_Med        21.84 Pct
Red_Sea        1.13 Pct
South_Asian - 
East_Asian        0.77  Pct   
Siberian        0.85 Pct
Amerindian        0.16 Pct
Oceanian        -
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan 0.24 Pct

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Macedonian_Bogdanci:

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Population       
North_Atlantic        21.19 Pct
Baltic        19.31 Pct
West_Med        17.17 Pct
West_Asian        15.10 Pct
East_Med        20.65 Pct
Red_Sea        3.91 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        0.84 Pct
Siberian        0.59 Pct
Amerindian        0.29 Pct
Oceanian        0.95 Pct
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        -

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Macedonian Woman from Southeast

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Population       
North_Atlantic        22.16 Pct
Baltic        21.75 Pct
West_Med        19.60 Pct
West_Asian        8.44 Pct
East_Med        24.08 Pct
Red_Sea        1.94 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        0.14 Pct
Siberian        -   
Amerindian        1.89 Pct
Oceanian        -   
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        -

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Macedonian from Ohrid ,Reference Macedonian_Southwest from K13 Eurogenes.

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North_Atlantic 18.21
Baltic 23.02
West_Med 22.24
West_Asian 10.01
East_Med 23.19
Red_Sea 2.53
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.80
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Macedonian with ancestors from Northeast Village German and Skopje - A231427 .

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Population       
North_Atlantic        22.42 Pct
Baltic        22.28 Pct
West_Med        18.15 Pct
West_Asian        8.99 Pct
East_Med        25.37 Pct
Red_Sea        0.38 Pct
South_Asian        -   
East_Asian        0.95 Pct
Siberian        -   
Amerindian        0.73 Pct
Oceanian        0.73 Pct
Northeast_African        -   
Sub-Saharan        -

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