Yeah. Hungarians/east Euros usually get Siberian which is less mong. His east asian is among highest I saw in Hungarian results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
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Yeah. Hungarians/east Euros usually get Siberian which is less mong. His east asian is among highest I saw in Hungarian results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
No they are not. East Asian scores above 1% are very eare in this region, unlike Siberian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
1.5% Uralic but feels like it's 100 percent? Haha xD :swl
We are talking just Mongoloid in general, unspecified. In such tiny amounts it's the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Well I don't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maintenance
Serbs are Slavs by language and identity, by genetics they're around half Slavic. So you aren't that Slavic either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
If he does, it will be trough Morti Serb side obviously, since he scores no Indian.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Probably because the autosomal influence has been "washed out" but the genetic variants related to your apperance are still passed on. I know a Scot who has nappy hair like an African, yet his Black ancestor lived like 200 years ago. He would probably score 3% SSA tops if he tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
Welcome to the balkannigga club.
Ancestor who lived 200 years ago would make him 1/256 black or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford
Minimal, autosomally 4 percent or less won't even matter anyway because they can't read the SNP signatures 100 percent correctly because it's too distant so it's somewhat guessing and in theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Member Onge? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZRuMjVbtnY
Why did I get 88% Balkan in that case? XD Myheritage literally acts like some kind of calculator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Btw welcome to E-V13, time to conquer TA with nibba genes, later we take on the world. Prepare the horses or theoretically we can take cars too the fuel is cheap nowaydays.
Surely by horses you mean lowriders?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaestro
How did you make that estimation? Life span was that low in 19th century? My grandfather(rip) was born in 1923, almost 100 years ago and (obviously) I have 1/4 of my genes from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuperable
XDD ye definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Until recently one generation roughly equaled ~25 years. So in one century there were ca. 4 generations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
Hahaha alright man, cheers! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaestro
1/2 = 50%
1/4 = 25%
1/8 = 12.5%
1/16 = 6.25%
1/32 = 3.125%
So in theory, after 5 generations any admixture could be potentially washed out almost without a trace.
Because half Albanian half Hungarian results will look South Slavic obviously. Balkan on Myheritage literaly means modern South Slav.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaestro
Ao you are proving my point, it acts like calculator. Why would he pay for such a bullshit. If he wants good results where he finds out which region he really belongs to, he needs ancestry or 23andme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
The percentages represent the portion of MyHeritage DNA users with Balkan ethnicity in that country.
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The percentages represent the portion of MyHeritage DNA users with Greek and South Italian ethnicity in that country.
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I don't understand why people attack MH for being trash but defend 23andMe. Both are using modern populations as a reference, what makes one trash and the other is decent? Both are incapable of showing you a decent result. I even think that MH is better because they cover your small amount of admixtures while 23andMe assign this percentage to major components randomly. Maybe the recent ancestor region feature looks good, but it is far from being accurate and it is a matter of luck if they collected the required samples from this region or not.
I personally think the most logical thing in Eastern Europe buying MH considering price/accuracy ratio and wouldn't recommend anyone from this region to buy 23andme if s/he is not want to learn mt-DNA.
The service 23andme provided in Europe is another part of the story. They lost my kit 2 times and it had been 5 months until I get my results, Chris lived the same experience too. It shouldn't be a coincidence.
Right,... And they're having an upgrade so I'm excited. But idk if I should leave my account with the 23andme raw data or get another my heritage kit with their own raw dna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
Maybe that would make a big difference.
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I can't agree. Current 23andme raw data is inferior to Myheritage, and by big margin.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaestro
They are not worth excessive money they demand.
Also, their regions aren't accurate either. It doesn't even recognize Stears Szekler side lol.
He didn't get any region in Romania and not a region of his mother in Hungary either.
Only raw data matters, and in that 23andme sucks on V5 chip.
Chris results on gedmatch are far more accurate with myheritage than they would be if he tested on 23andme.
And so will be his G25 coordinates if he buys them. Because his raw data is good.
Well one thing to keep in mind, the phenotypes are ancient and were spread and absorbed long ago through migration, so they would not necessarily align strictly with recent ancestry. Also, Chris' asiatic traits can fit within the Eastern and Southeastern European range of looks without needing exotic validation. In other words, his looks could be a recapitulation of ancestors from hundreds of years ago or more who's DNA is absorbed and recombined in broken bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terminator98
By the way, his result expected and typical for half Szekely and half Alföld. Imagine, Hungarians are close to the Croats and Szekely is identical with Romanians. A mix of Croat + Romanian would give you a Serb. Apparently Alföld + Szekely has similar output.
I don't know if anyone realized or not but he has 3% EE in PuntDNAL K13.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 40.42
2 SW_Europe 33.96
3 West_Asia 15.55
4 SW_Asia 5.57
5 NE_Asia 1.84
6 South_Africa 1.34
7 SE_Asia 1.12
8 Oceania 0.18
9 East_Africa 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.79
2 Bosnian 3.99
3 Croatian 4.92
4 Moldavian 6.11
5 Montenegrin 6.14
6 Hungarian 6.95
7 Romanian 7.66
8 Slovene 7.67
9 German_South 8.05
10 Macedonian 8.39
11 Bulgarian 8.77
12 French 9.01
13 Slovak 9.18
14 Belgian 9.29
15 English 9.79
16 Scottish 10.49
17 Orcadian 11.1
18 Irish 11.38
19 Utahn_European 11.81
20 German_North 12.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% English + 20.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.53
2 77.7% English + 22.3% Turkish @ 2.55
3 80.7% English + 19.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.61
4 75.3% Orcadian + 24.7% Turkish @ 2.64
5 76.9% Orcadian + 23.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.67
6 74.9% Irish + 25.1% Turkish @ 2.68
7 77.1% English + 22.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.69
8 76.5% Irish + 23.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.71
9 77.8% Belgian + 22.2% Kumyk @ 2.73
10 76.5% Scottish + 23.5% Turkish @ 2.79
11 78.1% Scottish + 21.9% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.84
12 88.9% Croatian + 11.1% Nogay @ 2.84
13 75.8% Utahn_European + 24.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.85
14 74.2% Utahn_European + 25.8% Turkish @ 2.88
15 96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Lahu @ 2.89
16 81% Belgian + 19% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.89
17 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Miaozu @ 2.89
18 96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Vietnamese @ 2.9
19 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Dai @ 2.9
20 96.9% Bosnian + 3.1% She @ 2.92
in 23andme people of the same ethnicity get similar results, while in myheritage it's all over the place. Among Balkanians East Euro, Balkan and Greek can vary a lot and i've seen Serbs get random Finnish, Scandinavian and Arabic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
My results on 23andme suck, just to illustrate that. I get 47% eastern European (Slovenia), which would make me non-Croat in majority since Croatia is part of Balkan on 23andme. Their Balkan and east euro groups suck as well. No logic in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
23andme is very overrated, and their shipping cost for eastern Europe is simply unbelievably high, as if they send kits to war zone and it justify such high price, lmao.
No he did not lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
You are a southern shifted Hungarian, your are within the Hungarian range of results (just ask forum member Imre, his Hungarian side results look much like yours). It happens to be that your Szekely and also your Hungarian from Hungary side lack German admix. All your known ancestors are Hungarians, so this is a Hungarian DNA result. It really is not a surprise for a Szekely/Alfold result.
Well if the result is not accurate it doesn't matter everyone gets a similar result. On the other hand, I don't think this is the case. Imagine a Serb gets 40% Eastern Euro yet his Balkan part balanced with Greek, not Serb. On the other hand, a Serb gets 20% Eastern Euro because his Balkan part balanced with Bulgarian, Montenegrin etc.. Both have identical results in Gedmatch. So, what caused such a difference in 23andMe? They use IBD after algorithm finds a population to fulfill your breakdown then assigning you regions according to IBD results. Instead, they should measure your relativity before assigning you a component.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
This is the problem.
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Originally Posted by Est.1992
Imagine what I thought after see my own result :D
With all of my seriousness, I can prepare a better algorithm for everyone if I had their dataset. This actually applies to all companies.
The more interesting thing is how different calculators consistently prefer East Asian instead of Siberian. For me it's always a mix of the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
Mortimer's father is Serb from Banat in Pannonian plain, so there is great possibility of some connections with Chris ancestors.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Chris, congratulations on your results. You should be proud. :)
you should just view those two as separate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
47% East Euro - you have 47% Baltic like admixture (after filtering)
Slovenia - you have some matches with all 4 grandparents from Slovenia.
Do you not use the converted V3 data from Lemgrant? I still have that kit on my other account.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisSelene
I usually have huge Siberian and a slight amount of East Asia, the ratio is like 7:1. Anatolian Turks get like half-half like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
I wonder what causes this variety.
Punt K13 sucks and assigns too much noise. It exaggerates Mongoloid admixture for sure. On Eu K13, HW and Dod Chris is below 2%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
K13: East_Asian 1.64
K12b: East_Asian 1.44
HW: NE_Asian 1.5
I don't think it exaggerates for everyone. I have 9.31% in K12b, have 9.1% in Punt K13Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto