I am aware of that, just a side remark. Someone mentioned the Levant or Middle East.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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I am aware of that, just a side remark. Someone mentioned the Levant or Middle East.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
I looked it up and the branches of that subclade have carriers throughout western Europe. He's likely a descendant of one of the crusaders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Of the 24 million I2-din carriers, the majority (13 million) are from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Poland.
Not from the Balkans.
It's Germanic type of I2 usually, but to my suprise in SE Euro ancient paper lot of old Balkan I2 fell under that branch (it's extremelly rare in Balkans today and peaks in Germany)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I don't want to be the one to judge but for a "Croatian" person you sound extremely Germans with all the unsophisticated insults which are thrown around like commands. Certainly you don't sound neither nonSlavic nor Slavic Balkan, you sound like a Kraut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
I2 was common among Italian Normans from whom came many great Crusaders. The progeny of Hauteville being among them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Thraco-Cimmerians who were cousins of DaciansQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
They lived in Ukraine and Russia.... I assume they are I2
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-Cimmerian.png
I2 is Cromagnon, neither Slavic nor Germanic or Balkan. It's related with Cromagnon migrations to Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
So Bosniensis doesnt believe in the "De Administrando Imperio" and the fact that he speaks a slavic language with family and aquaintances? Does he think this all is a big Byzantine conspiracy? We South Slavs wouldnt have such high amounts of Northeastern-european admixture without slavic invasions considering our geographical position.
I am more Slavic than anything else in DNA, culture and identity. Deal with it sock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jugo
Deal with your bullshit, sperg? No thanks. You aren't actually Slavic. 0 plus 0 or "more Slavic" is still really just 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
We have 30% R1aQuote:
Originally Posted by Ljubic
Slavic invasions happened.
+1 absolutely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Ok another question If it is Slavic what is native Balkan haplogroup? Is there none? Is it E-v13?
Thraco-Cimmerian sample we have is dominantly paleo-Balkan by autosomal genetics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
https://i.imgur.com/28iL9U8.png
There are not very much I2-din among these people listed above.
Don't lecture Slavs on what they are, dog legged Jap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jugo
Rather worry why your people have such short and bended legs like chimpanzee
:o
No, you don't. Bosniaks have significantly lower R1a percentage than 30%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
South Slavs have mostly native Balkan bloodQuote:
Originally Posted by Salonikios
Lithuanians are more Slavic than South Slavs
https://i.ibb.co/pXy0Y1C/Distributio...-R1a-Y-DNA.png
Croats are like 60-70% Early Slavic.
30% is overblown. Thats just Croatia with the most affected part being the north. You tell me Hercegovina is 65% Native Balkan by paternal line even with this many pagan slavic tribes being recorded there and the Dalmatian hinterland? R1a is relatively low there you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
Edit: Just realized that considering the rest of the Haplogroups which are mostly E and J, they would be almost entirely Balkan if I2-Din was native. I dont buy this.
In bronze and iron age Croatian samples were found J2b2 and R1b L23 haplogroups, peaking in modern day Albanians. Depends on part of SE Europe though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salonikios
E-V13 still hasn't been found but rumors say lot of it will be in Roman graves from upcoming ancient Serbia paper.
Sardinians are Slavic too then.
:thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
No stupid, they have no Slavic I2 clades. Repeat me your IQ score, 70?Quote:
Originally Posted by Salonikios
PS stop larping as Russian, Turk.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
East Europid
Description:
"Often depigmented, relatively short-limbed, medium to short-skulled group, found in its highest frequencies in Eastern Europe. Faces tend to be flatter than in other Europeans..."
"snub noses common, chin weak, forehead not very high and receding, eyelid narrow.
You were saying? You are only my half but my full-Asian brother (I am only half). Deal with it. My limbs are even far longer than your tiny shortstuff limbs...if you are a Slav. Or you are going to change ethnicity now? Wear another cloak on top of the other one. You are a tiny-legged midget Slav.
I repeat
Original I2 Autosomal is:
Western Mediterranean
OTHERWISE
Sardinians would be Baltids
Please leave the thread, mud eyes. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
I am I2a, long live I2a o7
Please don't be a vulgar gopnik. I am being nice here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
You are Turk pretending to be Russian, so you are not nice but trying to deceive people. Also you must be stupid to call Sardinians Slavic when their I2 subclade separated from ours more than 20 000 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salonikios
It' similar to claim Kygyz are Slavic because they have tons of R1a, completely unrelated to Balto-Slavic R1a clades.
Educate yourself or keep quiet.
Syrians have History spanning 10.000 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Are you saying they are unrelated to Each other?
Also Sardinian and our haplogroup is separated 7000 years .. not more
All R1a people have Indo-European ancestry like all I1 or I2 people have old European native ancestry. That is what I know. I believe what science says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
It was assimilated by some Slavic people, but was not originally Slavic by definition. It predates Slavic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
This is not true as R1a predates Indo-Europeans. I don't think you know what science is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salonikios
Paleo-sardinians/berid phenotype don't look much different of the baltid one, apart of pigmentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bosniensis
It took part in early Slavic ethnogenesis and spread here by Slavs. All hgs predate Slavs or any other group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I don't care, in my father's branch all samples have slavic paternal ancestry from both east, west and south slavs.
My autosomal DNA is in my signature, compared to ancient samples, that's all I have to say.
Proud Slavic :)
Double
Fu*k Shqip E-V13, long live I2a!!!
Yes! I too want him to stop larping. In Russia he'd be a fruit seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
I'd guess on a mix of J2a in the South, J2b by the Adriatic and E-V13 on the edges of Central and Eastern Europe. R1b-Z2103 should also be present throughout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salonikios