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The nephew doesn't have this problem and the sum of those components is basically the same. That's because he tested with the old Ancestry test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
I also had the same problem with the kits of my family when compared to mine and that got resolved after imputation.
Is Guta from this area?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
No, he is from Hunedoara county, so Southwest Transylvania. That's just a reaction gif for when you count something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
I guessed but wanted to be sure:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Shit like this in RM don't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
I see. You're almost certainly not going to be like Gagauz or Wallachians if you are like them, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Well, my father side is from here, and looks quite Slavic. And I am interested to see father results because of look, since I don't know about any recent Slavic ancestry from his side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I've got an interesting sample from Vaslui with 4gp from there.
It's preemptive to jump to conclusions, but some of you guys might want to prepare that apology speech for IncelSlayer (Vaslui is just above Galati).
Maybe Nurzat can tell us more about the profile in Vaslui. Are there Romanian villages that assimilated minorities in the past?
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.62 37.17 12.89 6.15 13.09 2.67 0 1.15 0 1.00 0 0 0.25
Distance to: Vaslui_ind 3.70656175 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 4.03798217 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central 5.13194895 Croat_Slavonia 5.45812239 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner 5.86291736 Moldova_North 5.93504844 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 5.93578133 Croat 6.05978547 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 6.11496525 Croat_Croatia 6.22355204 Croat_B&H 6.32101258 Croat_B&H_Bosnia 6.52469923 Hungarian_Alfold 6.90902309 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 6.91737445 Bosniak_Sarajevo 7.10858636 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 7.37154665 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 7.42233117 Hungarian_Northern 7.61747007 Slovak 7.61794592 Bosniak 7.77280516 Hungarian 7.88051394 Slovenian 8.26912329 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje 8.53021688 Serb_B&H 8.55643033 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar 8.67187984 Hungarian_Budapest
Distance to: Vaslui_ind 3.70656175 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.86291736 Republica_Moldova_Nord 8.22964155 Republica_Moldova_Ukrainian 8.91645670 Romania_Moldova_Csango 8.93457889 Romania_Moldova_Nord 8.94940221 Romania_Maramures 9.52551734 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 9.63086704 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.02325296 Republica_Moldova_Centru 10.34011646 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 10.93241053 Romania_Crisana 12.50659026 Romania_Moldova_Sud 13.65454503 Romania_Transilvania 14.71615779 Romania_Banat 14.83793786 Romania_Oltenia 15.71195087 Republica_Moldova_Sud 16.06601071 Romania_Dobrogea 16.14385642 Romania_Muntenia 17.20852696 Bulgarian 19.39632439 Republica_Moldova_Sud_Gagauz 20.46946995 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 20.69447028 Republica_Moldova_Bulgarian 21.17033538 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 26.13684947 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 30.48095307 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 31.01943745 Crimean_Tatar 39.05849459 Romania_Jewish 40.75691966 Romania_Roma
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Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 2.7228% / 2.72276805 | ADC: 0.25x
82.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.0 Republica_Moldova_Ukrainian
5.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
3.2 Romania_Jewish
Distance to: Vaslui_ind 4.59823879 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 4.76195338 Moldova_Falesti 4.96501762 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 5.40576544 Moldova_Rezina 5.59710640 Moldova_Floresti 6.71645740 Moldova_Soldanesti 6.89422947 Moldova_Ocnita 7.03893458 Moldova_Balti 7.18047352 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 7.54748302 Moldova_Edinet 7.70374584 Moldova_Transnistria 8.22964155 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.38045345 Moldova_Briceni 8.49676409 Moldova_Ialoveni 8.51711219 Moldova_Eurogenes 8.59051221 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 8.92118826 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 8.92249965 Moldova_Nisporeni 9.17205539 Moldova_Glodeni 9.58496740 Moldova_Straseni 9.68546333 Moldova_Orhei 10.11729707 Moldova_Chisinau 10.17171569 Moldova_Calarasi 10.97702601 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 11.06753812 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui
The only minorities in region hypothetically can be Csangos, but they don't live here, and are not so northern. Maybe some Ukrainians from the north came here, and assimilated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Unless we're talking about heavy inbreeding of Rusyn boyars from the 13th century, then this man might just be mixed with a Russian that came from over the Prut or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Edit: Or Lipovan.
???Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Rusyn = Russian (russki) if we're talking about the 13th century.
https://ro.qwe.wiki/wiki/BrodniciQuote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
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au fost un trib de origine incertă.
Yes, but in that area they didn't live, especially in that times (13th century).Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
The joke was that he might be Ploskynya's successor.
Or maybe even Mazepa's, but he was buried in Galați, a bit too south.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Mazepa
But all 4gp are only Romanian, so this can't be a case of recent admixture. In situations like this, I think that we are looking at people whose cultural and ethnic identity got replaced. That's why I was wondering if there were some Slavic settlements in Vaslui.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Are they all from Vaslui the city or from villages ? Do they have non-peculiar last names? Maybe they moved around from N. Bukovina and are adamant that they have no Ukrainian admixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
From Vaslui, the rest is not specified.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Maybe lost Lipovans, some of them, especially the urban ones lost their identities if there weren't enough of them around.
Or maybe he is a true Yamnaya descendant, who knows.
Yamnaya were very far from that genetic profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Anyway, here's another result.
Neamt (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.95 24.80 18.46 11.96 15.86 1.51 0 0 1.28 0.66 1.02 0.50 0
Distance to: Neamt_ind 2.80158883 Romanian_Oltenia 2.88549822 Montenegrin 3.09711156 Romania_Transylvania 3.20908087 Bosniak_Sandzak 3.36275185 Romania_Moldavia_South 3.49586899 Romanian_Wallachia 3.67484694 Moldova_South 3.81449866 Macedonian_Northwest 3.97107109 Macedonian 4.32839462 Romania_Banat 4.36802015 Bulgarian_Gabrovo 4.49815518 Romania_Dobruja 4.54314869 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora 4.69789314 Romania_Muntenia 4.86556266 Serb_Serbia_South&East 5.05931814 Bulgarian 5.06493830 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope 5.14940773 Romania_Moldavia_average 5.18407176 Bulgarian_Central 5.47311611 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia 5.54442062 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina 5.62998224 Serb_Serbia 5.68729285 Serb 5.70181550 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija 5.71421036 Serb_Croatia
Distance to: Neamt_ind 2.80158883 Romania_Oltenia 3.09711156 Romania_Transilvania 3.36275185 Romania_Moldova_Sud 4.32839462 Romania_Banat 4.49815518 Romania_Dobrogea 4.69789314 Romania_Muntenia 5.05931814 Bulgarian 6.20295897 Romania_Crisana 6.74677701 Romania_Moldova_Nord 7.01768480 Romania_Maramures 7.65853772 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 7.96177744 Romania_Moldova_Csango 8.33377317 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 8.55084206 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 8.75532217 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 12.92794647 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 16.69118031 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 21.95220490 Ukrainian_Lviv 25.90310020 Crimean_Tatar 27.63709645 Romania_Jewish 28.81849059 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 32.15274794 Romania_Roma
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.5265% / 2.52654648 | ADC: 0.25x
56.2 Romania_Oltenia
24.8 Romania_Moldova_Sud
10.8 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
6.8 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.4 Crimean_Tatar
-Aromanian
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.6250% / 2.62501486 | ADC: 0.25x
87.4 Romania_Oltenia
5.8 Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.0 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.8 Crimean_Tatar
-Oltenia
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.0018% / 3.00176507 | ADC: 0.25x
96.6 Romania_Transilvania
2.2 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Romania_Dobrogea
Distance to: Neamt_ind 3.52926338 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 4.05770871 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 4.65204256 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 4.85994856 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 5.17437919 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 5.26965843 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 7.11218672 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 7.73653023 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 8.71159572 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 8.77339729 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 14.95308998 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 27.63709645 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
From Straseni (R. Moldova)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.59 30.86 16.86 8.76 11.85 2.12 2.03 0.81 0.86 2.26 0 0 0
Distance to: Straseni_ind 3.76245930 Serb_B&H 3.78727994 Bosniak_Sarajevo 3.80260437 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 3.91292729 Bosniak 3.98370431 Serb_B&H_Krajina 4.13365456 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 4.15808850 Romania_Maramures 4.18104054 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 4.19450831 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 4.43793871 Croat_B&H 4.44795459 Moldova_average 4.56337594 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 4.71307755 Moldova_North 4.82050827 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.82509067 Serb 4.84007231 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina 4.86765857 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija 4.91262659 Moldova_Centre 4.94827243 Hungarian_Csango 4.97492714 Serb_Serbia 4.99811965 Serb_Croatia 5.01454883 Serb_Croatia_Lika 5.03423281 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 5.26452277 Romania_Moldavia_average 5.69590204 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
Distance to: Straseni_ind 4.71307755 Moldova_North 4.91262659 Moldova_Centre 9.49348724 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.68775000 Moldova_South 13.89998921 Moldova_South_Gagauz 14.09347367 Moldova_Bulgarian 14.43765563 Moldova_Ukrainian 14.44278713 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.95351372 Ukrainian 21.78094351 Russian_Smolensk 26.68957474 Crimean_Tatar 27.56735751 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 28.94676202 Russian_Pinega 33.98357103 Moldova_Jewish 34.66827368 Moldova_Roma
Target: Straseni_ind
Distance: 3.1854% / 3.18540554 | ADC: 0.25x
69.6 Moldova_North
18.6 Moldova_Centre
8.2 Moldova_South
3.6 Moldova_Roma
Distance to: Straseni_ind 3.25768323 Moldova_Straseni 3.52347839 Moldova_Ocnita 4.38405064 Moldova_Balti 4.59516050 Moldova_Eurogenes 4.65182760 Moldova_Calarasi 5.03588125 Moldova_Ialoveni 5.43111407 Moldova_Chisinau 5.88905765 Moldova_Edinet 5.99729106 Moldova_Orhei 6.26064693 Moldova_Soldanesti 6.45141070 Moldova_Glodeni 6.59690079 Moldova_Nisporeni 6.61573125 Moldova_Falesti 6.86526037 Moldova_Cimislia 7.18187301 Moldova_Briceni 7.19570705 Moldova_Transnistria 7.19919440 Moldova_Ungheni 7.22506747 Moldova_Hincesti 7.35735686 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 7.92656925 Moldova_Causeni 8.79531694 Moldova_Rezina 9.44174242 Moldova_Cahul 10.37766351 Moldova_Floresti 11.13115448 Moldova_StefanVoda 13.58244823 Moldova_Cantemir
Second sample from Hincesti (R. Moldova)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.31 29.55 17.84 7.30 16.55 1.29 1.96 0.80 0.24 0.79 0.35 0 0
The first one was a bit different and this shows why it's important to have at least a couple of samples for each district, in order to understand the average profile.
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 18.71 29.10 18.39 10.79 14.63 4.48 0 0.85 0 2.02 0.74 0.25 0
Distance to: Hincesti_ind 2.57641223 Romania_Maramures 2.96454044 Serb_Serbia 2.99668150 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina 3.14017515 Serb 3.24709101 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 3.40876811 Serb_Croatia_Lika 3.49310750 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina 3.51656082 Bulgarian_Pleven 3.53659441 Serb_Serbia_South&East 3.80445791 Romania_Crisana 3.82776697 Romania_Moldavia_average 3.86150230 Serb_Croatia 3.96634593 Serb_B&H 4.07073703 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija 4.10530145 Moldova_average 4.12035193 Serb_B&H_Krajina 4.16488895 Romania_Moldavia_South 4.35561706 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia 4.40595052 Bosniak 4.44059681 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.49323937 Bulgarian_Sofia 4.62386202 Moldova_Centre 4.79335999 Romania_Transylvania 4.87989754 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 4.90183639 Bosniak_Sandzak
Distance to: Hincesti_ind 4.62386202 Moldova_Centre 6.92720001 Moldova_South 7.86728034 Moldova_North 10.69020580 Moldova_South_Gagauz 11.72506290 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 11.96853374 Moldova_Bulgarian 17.44825779 Moldova_Ukrainian 18.20553487 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.31222929 Ukrainian 25.09357089 Russian_Smolensk 28.15635630 Crimean_Tatar 29.53947528 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 30.03505119 Moldova_Jewish 32.32944759 Russian_Pinega 33.72896381 Moldova_Roma
Target: Hincesti_ind
Distance: 3.1049% / 3.10485864 | ADC: 0.25x
65.4 Moldova_South
34.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Ukrainian Ivano Frankivsk
Target: Hincesti_ind
Distance: 4.0009% / 4.00093632 | ADC: 0.25x
57.6 Moldova_South
24.8 Moldova_North
8.8 Moldova_Centre
8.8 Moldova_Ukrainian
Distance to: Hincesti_ind 4.64711739 Moldova_Eurogenes 4.65528732 Moldova_Causeni 4.87877034 Moldova_Chisinau 4.91470243 Moldova_Nisporeni 5.13255297 Moldova_Ialoveni 5.39092756 Moldova_Balti 5.39486793 Moldova_Ungheni 5.54689102 Moldova_Straseni 5.74049649 Moldova_Calarasi 5.84130122 Moldova_Cimislia 5.87975340 Moldova_Soldanesti 5.96457040 Moldova_Ocnita 7.03042673 Moldova_Cahul 7.11886929 Moldova_Falesti 7.30320478 Moldova_Hincesti 8.36013158 Moldova_StefanVoda 9.07155444 Moldova_Orhei 9.11813577 Moldova_Edinet 9.23851178 Moldova_Briceni 10.38773796 Moldova_Cantemir 10.42263402 Moldova_Glodeni 10.67465222 Moldova_Transnistria 10.76658720 Moldova_Rezina 10.93140888 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 10.98789789 Moldova_Floresti
First sample from Anenii Noi (R. Moldova)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.19 35.55 15.80 5.01 14.63 1.08 2.73 0 1.21 0.49 0.57 0 0.75
Distance to: AneniiNoi_ind 5.63331164 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 6.25745156 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner 6.26082263 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central 6.31915522 Bosniak_Sarajevo 6.55263306 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 6.61027987 Croat_B&H 6.85975218 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 6.91849695 Romania_Maramures 7.03547440 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 7.06009915 Moldova_North 7.09122697 Bosniak 7.10530788 Croat_B&H_Bosnia 7.13539067 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 7.46073723 Serb_B&H 7.55008609 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 7.94428096 Serb_B&H_Krajina 7.95468415 Moldova_average 8.03873746 Croat_Slavonia 8.07092312 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina 8.08574054 Romania_Moldavia_North 8.19687135 Croat 8.24591414 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 8.41058856 Serb_Croatia_Lika 8.41106414 Serb 8.42013064 Serb_Serbia
Distance to: AneniiNoi_ind 6.55263306 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 7.06009915 Moldova_North 8.51984742 Moldova_Centre 11.97296120 Moldova_Ukrainian 13.27441901 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.37475233 Moldova_South 13.99645312 Ukrainian 16.73482596 Moldova_South_Gagauz 18.72322355 Moldova_Bulgarian 19.30417053 Russian_Smolensk 26.05857692 Russian_Pinega 29.38248288 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 29.82411273 Crimean_Tatar 35.79046800 Moldova_Jewish 37.15319502 Moldova_Roma
Target: AneniiNoi_ind
Distance: 3.7530% / 3.75297351 | ADC: 0.25x
82.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
10.6 Moldova_South_Gagauz
3.8 Moldova_Jewish
3.6 Moldova_Roma
-Ukrainians
Target: AneniiNoi_ind
Distance: 6.0907% / 6.09067109 | ADC: 0.25x
69.0 Moldova_Centre
12.8 Moldova_North
9.8 Russian_Smolensk
8.4 Russian_Pinega
Distance to: AneniiNoi_ind 3.84764863 Moldova_Falesti 4.61044466 Moldova_Soldanesti 6.51137466 Moldova_Balti 6.87608900 Moldova_Ocnita 6.88684253 Moldova_Eurogenes 6.98263561 Moldova_Ialoveni 7.28567087 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 7.50862837 Moldova_Edinet 8.16848211 Moldova_Straseni 8.47480973 Moldova_Nisporeni 8.48063087 Moldova_Chisinau 8.50577451 Moldova_Hincesti 8.53001758 Moldova_Floresti 8.83972285 Moldova_Rezina 9.29142077 Moldova_Cimislia 9.29143692 Moldova_Glodeni 9.53371386 Moldova_Transnistria 9.55177470 Moldova_Calarasi 9.86241350 Moldova_Briceni 10.07950396 Moldova_Orhei 10.49649942 Moldova_Ungheni 11.05910485 Moldova_Causeni 11.97296120 Moldova_Ukrainian 13.90538745 Moldova_Cahul 14.52982106 Moldova_StefanVoda
Because near Hîncești district exist some Bulgarian villages, wich can influence the results. In the past in that area even existed some German villages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ugeac-1930.png
Yes, but even without minorities, there will be varities within the locality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
We have the luxury of having those 10 samples from Caplani in Stefan Voda, a village that is supposedly fully Moldovan/Romanian.
And among them there is diversity, both Southern, Northern and even Western (last sample) compared to others.
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 21.01 25.42 16.62 11.92 18.51 4.11 0.58 0 0 0 0.50 0.51 0.82 18.42 25.95 16.17 15.44 17.84 3.82 0.56 0.56 0 1.25 0 0 0 18.27 19.97 19.01 15.32 19.44 4.68 0.12 1.50 0.68 0.54 0 0 0.48 19.84 23.81 19.67 11.16 19.93 3.16 0 0.00 1.21 0.29 0.52 0 0.40 22.08 23.50 19.95 9.57 19.50 3.24 0 1.74 0.34 0 0.08 0 0 16.91 24.06 20.61 12.07 23.58 0 0.52 0 1.03 0 0.29 0.45 0.50 20.23 23.81 21.69 7.85 19.98 3.35 0 0 2.91 0 0.19 0 0 21.08 28.93 14.78 9.89 19.66 4.48 0.57 0.61 0 0 0 0 0 21.23 24.68 15.16 12.29 20.35 3.67 0 0 2.38 0 0.25 0 0 26.39 24.34 17.44 13.21 12.41 4.18 0 0.31 0.71 0 0.89 0 0.12
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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Dumasca village at the border with Iași county today was founded by Lipovans around 1740.
some other Lipovans settled in Vaslui town around 1880.
then, the 20% Catholic population of Huși must descend partially from the initial founders of the town, Hussites that then got back to Catholicism, maybe because of the settlement of catholic Csangos later on in the town.
Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.48 28.95 17.21 10.44 13.88 3.45 0 1.27 1.19 0 0.14 0 0
Compared to others from Iasi
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 19.78 25.27 16.76 13.97 13.46 3.11 3.80 1.10 0.58 1.21 0.28 0.67 0 28.67 29.30 14.20 10.23 14.22 0 0.12 1.51 0 0.75 0.79 0.21 0 20.77 30.57 15.51 11.77 12.12 3.48 2.53 0 1.45 0.35 1.46 0 0 21.55 33.35 16.78 7.05 17.78 0.86 0 1.07 0.11 0.76 0 0 0.69 25.87 26.84 16.97 10.82 15.72 1.10 0.45 0.17 0.89 0 0.85 0 0.32 23.47 21.46 16.35 9.42 19.46 4.83 0.78 1.14 2.38 0 0.52 0 0.19 27.56 28.87 11.97 7.40 17.56 0 2.72 0 2.26 0.96 0.20 0.42 0.08 24.97 24.41 19.71 10.78 13.32 3.16 0 2.38 0.77 0.50 0 0 0
Distance to: Iasi_ind 3.04368198 Serb_B&H_Krajina 3.07037457 Moldova_average 3.10580102 Moldova_Centre 3.34049398 Romania_Moldavia_average 3.36775890 Serb 3.40252847 Serb_B&H 3.40556897 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 3.47692393 Serb_Serbia 3.52408853 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija 3.56687538 Romania_Maramures 3.65328619 Serb_Croatia 3.87902049 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina 3.88110809 Romania_Moldavia_South 3.91371946 Romania_Moldavia_North 3.96010101 Serb_Croatia_Lika 4.14833702 Bosniak_Sandzak 4.16087731 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina 4.17922242 Bosniak 4.53575793 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia 4.58553159 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 4.60030434 Serb_Serbia_South&East 4.83633911 Bosniak_Sarajevo 5.01990040 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 5.08064956 Romania_Transylvania 5.08222392 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
Distance to: Iasi_ind 3.56687538 Romania_Maramures 3.88110809 Romania_Moldova_Sud 3.92355706 Romania_Moldova_Nord 5.08064956 Romania_Transilvania 5.23117578 Romania_Crisana 5.25379863 Romania_Moldova_Csango 5.89476039 Romania_Oltenia 6.00678783 Romania_Banat 6.26193791 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 6.57652793 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 7.16850752 Romania_Dobrogea 7.58770716 Romania_Muntenia 8.50477513 Bulgarian 11.54888306 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 11.90292401 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 12.20059835 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 17.08654734 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 17.31916280 Ukrainian_Lviv 25.80605162 Crimean_Tatar 27.43956450 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 31.38305912 Romania_Jewish 34.29013998 Romania_Roma
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.1777% / 2.17769198 | ADC: 0.25x
42.4 Romania_Maramures
25.4 Romania_Moldova_Sud
17.0 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.0 Crimean_Tatar
-Aromanian, Ukrainian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.7853% / 2.78529637 | ADC: 0.25x
57.8 Romania_Maramures
32.6 Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
4.0 Crimean_Tatar
Distance to: Iasi_ind 2.89858586 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 3.66167994 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 3.66360478 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 3.93339548 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 4.64663319 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 5.26114056 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 5.83204938 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 5.99908326 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 6.63965361 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 8.92038116 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 11.05636468 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 31.38305912 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.25 28.36 18.26 9.25 15.17 2.56 0.39 2.70 0 0.92 0.09 0 0
Compared to others from Iasi
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 19.78 25.27 16.76 13.97 13.46 3.11 3.80 1.10 0.58 1.21 0.28 0.67 0 28.67 29.30 14.20 10.23 14.22 0 0.12 1.51 0 0.75 0.79 0.21 0 20.77 30.57 15.51 11.77 12.12 3.48 2.53 0 1.45 0.35 1.46 0 0 21.55 33.35 16.78 7.05 17.78 0.86 0 1.07 0.11 0.76 0 0 0.69 25.87 26.84 16.97 10.82 15.72 1.10 0.45 0.17 0.89 0 0.85 0 0.32 23.47 21.46 16.35 9.42 19.46 4.83 0.78 1.14 2.38 0 0.52 0 0.19 27.56 28.87 11.97 7.40 17.56 0 2.72 0 2.26 0.96 0.20 0.42 0.08 24.97 24.41 19.71 10.78 13.32 3.16 0 2.38 0.77 0.50 0 0 0 23.48 28.95 17.21 10.44 13.88 3.45 0 1.27 1.19 0 0.14 0 0
Distance to: Iasi_ind 3.76608550 Romania_Moldova_Sud 3.92866390 Romania_Maramures 4.48066959 Romania_Transilvania 4.99594836 Romania_Banat 5.15792594 Romania_Crisana 5.20458452 Romania_Moldova_Nord 5.20632308 Romania_Oltenia 6.16807101 Romania_Dobrogea 6.58838372 Romania_Moldova_Csango 6.87068410 Romania_Muntenia 7.48939250 Bulgarian 8.01638469 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 8.10913255 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 10.66252784 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 10.81590496 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 13.32116361 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 15.79298895 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 18.94239161 Ukrainian_Lviv 26.29526764 Crimean_Tatar 28.13845234 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 30.05790745 Romania_Jewish 33.59412597 Romania_Roma
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.7869% / 2.78686732 | ADC: 0.25x
72.8 Romania_Maramures
12.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.6 Romania_Banat
2.0 Crimean_Tatar
-Aromanian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.9516% / 2.95160413 | ADC: 0.25x
62.2 Romania_Maramures
32.0 Romania_Banat
4.4 Romania_Oltenia
1.4 Crimean_Tatar
Distance to: Iasi_ind 3.38719648 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 3.40471732 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 4.71440346 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 4.83263903 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 5.44209518 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 5.85480999 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 5.97397690 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 6.76029585 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 7.21512301 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 7.90808447 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 12.17228820 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 30.05790745 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Suceava (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 24.37 39.23 10.88 6.70 13.46 1.45 0 0 2.62 0.51 0.79 0 0
Compared to others from Suceava
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 28.74 31.61 13.1 9.18 12.47 0.66 0.78 0 0.86 0.19 0.79 1.61 0 26.88 29.15 13.73 8.13 14.66 2.27 2.06 0 2.15 0.88 0.10 0 0 26.90 27.46 17.28 9.68 14.68 0 0 0 2.21 1.16 0.35 0 0.29 30.06 26.76 16.04 8.87 14.56 1.54 0 1.00 0.58 0 0.60 0 0 25.53 34.27 13.61 7.30 10.70 2.19 1.74 0 2.96 1.22 0.47 0 0 23.46 34.89 15.09 7.43 11.82 3.66 0 0 0.39 2.00 0.65 0.60 0 24.18 33.34 12.99 8.44 13.91 1.23 1.31 1.19 1.84 0.89 0.67 0 0 24.99 32.68 13.35 7.67 16.04 1.42 0.95 0 0.78 1.26 0.87 0 0 29.03 34.47 13.15 6.10 12.78 1.79 0.78 1.02 0.87 0 0 0 0 21.99 33.52 14.77 11.31 11.99 2.49 0.5 1.04 2.23 0 0.16 0 0 23.64 28.74 16.52 6.63 20.14 1.10 0 1.05 0.10 0.66 1.42 0 0 23.25 30.39 14.82 11.44 15.45 0 0.23 0.28 2.95 0 0 1.16 0
Distance to: Suceava_ind 4.81013513 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 6.26799011 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central 7.62152872 Croat_Slavonia 8.03573270 Moldova_North 8.43115057 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner 8.46226920 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 8.81170245 Croat 8.86982525 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 8.96199755 Croat_B&H 8.96454126 Croat_Croatia 9.14384492 Hungarian_Alfold 9.23134876 Croat_B&H_Bosnia 9.27837285 Bosniak_Sarajevo 9.28179713 Slovak 9.29705330 Hungarian_Northern 9.33970021 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.61118099 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 9.82931330 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 9.90574076 Ukrainian 10.05355161 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 10.22060174 Bosniak 10.27641474 South_Polish 10.33324247 Hungarian 10.46787944 Slovenian 10.58223039 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
Distance to: Suceava_ind 4.81013513 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.33970021 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.94888579 Romania_Moldova_Nord 11.17307478 Romania_Moldova_Csango 11.35462901 Romania_Maramures 12.01271686 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 12.71429828 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 13.51070687 Romania_Crisana 14.68920011 Romania_Moldova_Sud 15.83348982 Romania_Transilvania 16.54920844 Romania_Banat 17.06476487 Romania_Oltenia 17.88935717 Romania_Muntenia 17.90724155 Romania_Dobrogea 19.06379291 Bulgarian 22.54030168 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 23.49745731 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 28.29693800 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 29.24470721 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 30.42067553 Crimean_Tatar 40.54237536 Romania_Jewish 41.54043452 Romania_Roma
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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.5031% / 4.50306910 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
0.8 Romania_Jewish
Distance to: Suceava_ind 6.96462490 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 8.34839506 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 9.33123786 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 11.45216137 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 13.13935310 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 13.54124440 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 13.95631040 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 14.42551559 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 16.92515288 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 17.78665230 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 18.37329040 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 40.54237536 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Is she not half Lipovan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Whom are you referring to? I haven't posted this one before and it's not a lady. Verified ethnic Romanian in any caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Iasi
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.57 32.02 16.18 8.64 11.89 1.89 0.18 1.76 0 0.61 0 0.52 0.75
Compared to others from Iasi
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 19.78 25.27 16.76 13.97 13.46 3.11 3.80 1.10 0.58 1.21 0.28 0.67 0 28.67 29.30 14.20 10.23 14.22 0 0.12 1.51 0 0.75 0.79 0.21 0 20.77 30.57 15.51 11.77 12.12 3.48 2.53 0 1.45 0.35 1.46 0 0 21.55 33.35 16.78 7.05 17.78 0.86 0 1.07 0.11 0.76 0 0 0.69 25.87 26.84 16.97 10.82 15.72 1.10 0.45 0.17 0.89 0 0.85 0 0.32 23.47 21.46 16.35 9.42 19.46 4.83 0.78 1.14 2.38 0 0.52 0 0.19 27.56 28.87 11.97 7.40 17.56 0 2.72 0 2.26 0.96 0.20 0.42 0.08 24.97 24.41 19.71 10.78 13.32 3.16 0 2.38 0.77 0.50 0 0 0 23.48 28.95 17.21 10.44 13.88 3.45 0 1.27 1.19 0 0.14 0 0 22.25 28.36 18.26 9.25 15.17 2.56 0.39 2.70 0 0.92 0.09 0 0
Distance to: Iasi_ind 2.28901726 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 2.70732340 Croat_B&H 2.72690301 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 2.75664651 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 2.89665324 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 2.91073874 Moldova_North 3.15057138 Bosniak 3.25987730 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 3.30337040 Bosniak_Sarajevo 3.60227706 Serb_B&H 3.67547276 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner 3.76212706 Croat_B&H_Bosnia 3.92187455 Croat 4.23392253 Croat_Slavonia 4.25915485 Croat_Croatia 4.27179119 Serb_B&H_Krajina 4.28405182 Hungarian_Csango 4.47319796 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central 4.53045252 Romania_Maramures 4.79257759 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina 4.83269076 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 4.83294941 Serb_Croatia_Lika 4.86468910 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija 4.86569625 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.91512970 Serb_Croatia
Distance to: Iasi_ind 4.53045252 Romania_Maramures 4.81377583 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 4.87918026 Romania_Moldova_Csango 4.91071278 Romania_Moldova_Nord 5.77732566 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 6.56939875 Romania_Crisana 7.47713849 Romania_Moldova_Sud 7.98984355 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 8.70615874 Romania_Transilvania 9.76972876 Romania_Oltenia 10.26339612 Romania_Banat 11.52377976 Romania_Dobrogea 11.74948935 Romania_Muntenia 12.71965408 Bulgarian 13.02211964 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.07102050 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 16.26637636 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 21.43261767 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 28.13869045 Crimean_Tatar 28.81975885 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 35.63064411 Romania_Jewish 37.22986033 Romania_Roma
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.3798% / 2.37982728 | ADC: 0.25x
57.8 Romania_Maramures
24.8 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
17.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
-Hungarian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.4775% / 2.47746439 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Romania_Maramures
24.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
15.2 Romania_Crisana
6.6 Romania_Moldova_Sud
Distance to: Iasi_ind 3.73112584 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 4.30567068 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 4.48205310 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 5.60014286 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 6.01956809 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 7.26765437 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 7.27112096 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 7.46382610 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 9.73724807 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 10.64172918 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 11.76834738 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 35.63064411 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
The 39 percent Baltic person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
And how did you determine that this is a lady and half Lipovan at that? Lipovans mostly live in Tulcea county and certainly not in Suceava. In the past some stopped along the Prut river according to their Wiki page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
But Suceava is 200km away in the mountains.
Ukrainian ancestry is more likely in this case, but we are talking about distant one that got assimilated into the local profile of the community, since I know that all the 4gp for him are ethnic Romanians from Vatra Dornei.
I wasn't clear. I asked if that person was half Lipovan. And I was thinking maybe that girl from Reddit had finally shared her Gedmatch with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yes they do live in Suceava, I literally know a Lipovan girl from near Radauti.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
They have communities near Radauti, there's also a Lipoveni village :
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipoveni,_Suceava
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clim%C...8%9Bi,_Suceava
http://www.cjsuceava.ro/index.php/ro...iliala-suceava
Lipovans are tiny minority, this person just have more old Rusyn ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
30,000 according to Wikipedia. For obvious reasons I'm very interested in seeing at least a couple of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Yes, the Eternal XoXoL laughs in the background everytime a Romanian with 35-39% Baltic appears :swl
Ah, not that I know of, at least not at grandparents level. I wouldn't be surprised if their ancestors are partially assimilated Ukrainians for example who lost their former identity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That girl from Reddit is likely not from Moldavia. Lipovans are more of a Danube delta phenomenon.
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