They're a lot better for me, they separate English and Irish ancestry really well. MyHeritage is still a glorified gedmatch calculator, according to them I am 73% 'Scottish and Welsh'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
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They're a lot better for me, they separate English and Irish ancestry really well. MyHeritage is still a glorified gedmatch calculator, according to them I am 73% 'Scottish and Welsh'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
It would be interesting if they did that. I'd love to see how they manage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
That explains it. I didn't even notice the arrow, but the map likely shows a shared Anglo-Saxon ethnicity between the two populations, so it's likely very hard to tease out the very fine differences between Danish, Dutch, and Northern German populations and some English populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
Ancestry's update has some bugs, but I believe it's actually getting better as Creoda noted. (It's on sale for 50% off right now. Hint, hint. ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
Weirdly the England and NW Europe category still had the codename 'Anglo-Saxon' until recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
Sadly, that's the outfit that most TV talk shows use when they test their hosts, and that influences ordinary people to test with them. Compared to a lot of people, *your* result was right on the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
That's good to hear. Some comments made it seem like there was an infestation of said bugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
Hmmm. I don't think that I would have changed that one since it does make sense, but maybe that's why they changed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
23&Me actually breaks out specific regions in the UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Germany, and possibly elsewhere where your DNA occurs. They're ahead of everyone else in this respect. Certain parts of the world are under tested, but should eventually catch-up and then that level of breakdown will be possible in those regions as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
You should get Ancestry if you can. It would be interesting to see if you get any GCs and also what your breakdown is. Also one of the best things with Ancestry is that they do updates nearly every year and you won't be asked to take another test to get updates like 23&Me do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
France seems to be the sticking point and the wild card. Have they changed their law on testing yet, because it was as taboo as American fast food joints in the past?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
That indeed is a great selling point. It's almost like compensation for the Hormel warehouse full of spam that you get from them in your inbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
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Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
France hasn't changed their law. Their concern is misplaced, IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
That brings Family Search, the LDS genealogy site, to mind. Someone put my White Appalachian grandpa in with some Black New Orleans people because he shared a name with one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
Ancestry and 23andme have the means to start comparing people to the many ancient/medieval samples that are around now with ibd, I'm a bit surprised they haven't done it yet, as sales for their regular product must have been in steep decline in recent years (most of the people who want a dna test for recent ancestry have already done it). They'd attract lots of new and old customers with ancient/medieval ancestry estimates, regardless of accuracy or price.
It's the LDS church's site, but not their research. This is just a mistake that an incompetent researcher made and posted to the site. The same goes for the rampant errors in pedigrees posted to the Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc., sites. Do your own research with the excellent source material readily available on those sites. Don't trust the pedigrees without verifying them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
They should change course. I want to know if I have genes from my French Huguenot ancestors who were targeted for death by the Catholic Church. My forebear was warned that they planned to murder him. He and his family split that day if I remember correctly, and they lived in the colony of New York. My grandpa's grandma had their surname as a middle name. That solved a mystery since it had an Italian ring to it, but it turned out to be French. Their descendants were minsters of some note. Sadly or not, we're linked to the Baldwin actors through that line. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
It's a hot mess in many ways. I recall its Golden Age in the late '90s when I got a lion's share of genealogical information from the site, but it likely devolved since. A lot of genealogical sites have come and gone through the years. It would take a decade for me to get some of the information that I got in ten minutes if I went the pre-internet route of legwork, and I exclude the lines that trace me back to Noah.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
The data in the 90's was better, because it was based on information compiled by actual genealogists. Since then, amateurs have made mistakes and pedigree copiers have propagated them extensively. It's not as hard to confirm your lineage as you might imagine with source material at your finger tips these days, but few people have the inclination to invest the time to do so. No judgement, just stating what I have observed over the time period from when I started doing genealogy to now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
I have Huguenot ancestors as well. They settled New Rochelle, New York. Just remember that Catholics were targeted by Protestants in the same manor in other places. It was nasty from both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
Mine settled in New Rochelle too. Yeah, "Christian" churches behaved like warring factions of the Shia and the Sunni back then, so Islam never had a monopoly on internecine warfare. It all comes down to religion much of the time. If the English were papists while the Irish were prods, Cromwell would have raised an army of micks to crush the limeys.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
One thing Ive learned about Ancestry and their updates: everything changes, but Scotland always stays.
Actually it got way better in my case:)
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23&me is terrible for regions of Eastern Europe. The regions they show to me has nothing to do with my known genealogy which is quite extense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
Except Cromwell, being a Limey, would have been Catholic in this scenario. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic
Ah, some Englishmen were Catholic or royalist while some Irishmen (not referring to Scots-Irish Presbyterians) were Protestant or parliamentarian, and O'Brien, 1st Earl of Inchiquin, was a primary example, but he converted back to Catholicism at some point. Cromwell was a taff, by the way, so there's your obscure ethnic slur of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
The results look perfect for you! I thought you would get a subregion from Germany/Austria, but this subregion update on Ancestry was quite weird for a lot of people. Hopefully one day, we will be lucky and we will get an accurate subregion/s. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiel
Updated Subregions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
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As you can see, the Highlands and Ulster remain. The others have vacated.
I lost all of mine tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
If you have French Huguenots in your family tree its probably from that, Hugenots mostly came from the South and Southern French are closest to Iberians.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShieldWolf
You would have thought this is what Beta testing is for. They'd be wise to get advice from those that know their countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
For example the Highlands listed, includes like 99% of the population of Lowland East coast Scotland going by how it is highlighted. This is basically just "scotland". The other parts are borders or areas of higher Irish input
Perhaps they could label it different or show where its mostly concentrated. Otherwise i just see error.
I don't know what lowland Scotland shows.
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Summarizing the whole Ancestry update in one comparison, these are the updated results for me and for my family:
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Overall our updated results are definitely better, however my dad's results are a bit questionable, because originally the bigger Balkan in my and my sister's results originally came from my father (from my paternal grandfather to be more exact).
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Originally Posted by Rĉdwald
Changed again, glitchy regions left
Dang you did lose a lot ): this update did not do you justice at all! I finally got a European genetic group myself and they just removed it grrr. I also still have my partially incorrect French Canadian genetic group (completely wrong region) with no new additions ):. Very unhappy with Ancestry and the poor detail, still even though the accuracy was a bit better for me this time around. Tbh I don't see Ancestry doing any phenomenal updates anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanas
Can somebody explain to me, why Hungary is literally the ONLY country, who doesn't have a subregion!?!?! I mean look at these maps:
I can wait for the subregion, meanwhile we don't even have one lmfao.
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The truth is that Ancestry has a poor database for Central and Eastern Europe. They simply don't have enough data. No subregion is highlighted for my kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári
I think mine is the best so far and most accurate given my known background.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári
Swedish 50%
French 38%
Insular mix 12%
Your results are quite similiar to my mom's results! She has 90% Central&Eastern Europe, 8% German and 2% Balkan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panzerknacker
What's your "Insular mix"? English/Scottish/Welsh or Irish? Or Cornwall?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt