Y-DNA is for the father's side of the family right? If so, what are the most frequent haplogroups of the Marche and Calabria regions of Italy?
This would only be a rough guess since I don't want to pay for genetic testing.
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Y-DNA is for the father's side of the family right? If so, what are the most frequent haplogroups of the Marche and Calabria regions of Italy?
This would only be a rough guess since I don't want to pay for genetic testing.
Come on, you can spare 200 american dollars! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LightInDarkness
I'm going to get my brother to do one! :p
273 dollars for the Year sub I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern_Sun
That's pretty damn expensive just to find out genealogy. These should be done for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern_Sun
It's down to $207 (Includes 1-year subscription) on 23andMe.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBorrebyViking
Don't know yet, but it probably gonna be R1b, so why waste money on it?
I'm going to go for a solid guess of R1a for mtDna and R1b for Y-DNA. Where is r1b common in Europe?
R1a is Y-DNA (this one inherited by men from their fathers)Quote:
Originally Posted by LightInDarkness
Here you've got mtDNA
http://www.eupedia.com/images/conten...roup-chart.gif
There is also an mtDNA haplogroup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R_(mtDNA)
R1a* (3337): Found in Brahmins from Uttar Pradesh (India).[5] Also in Adygei people (Caucasus).
R1a1: Found in Northwest Caucasian people like Kabardins and Adygei people. Observed in eastern European populations like northwestern Russians and Poles.
Maybe LightInDarkness is part Brahimn on his maternal side :D
I doubt that :rolleyes:
E3b ydna
It would probably be R1a1 than :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Pallantides
Nobody in my family looks Indian.
Why ... ?Quote:
Originally Posted by LightInDarkness
Because it's what would be fair. People deserve to know about their history free of charge. I think modern day science owes it to the people who discovered it.
It wasn't "free" to develop the techniques necessary to decipher human DNA, not is it "free" to utilize those techniques today. The scientists who provide this service should not be expected to do it free of charge - that would not be fair. You either have other priorities for spending money, which is fine, or else you are just cheap. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LightInDarkness
That's a bullshit excuse. There's no reason why it should be 200$ expensive. Maybe 75 a person. I'd even understand 100. But 200?Quote:
Originally Posted by Odoacer
That's fucking ridiculous.
23andMe provides the kit at $99, which gives you both paternal DNA haplogroups (if you're a male, of course), your autosomal DNA results, & health information, provided you also purchase a 1-year subscription to their Personal Genome Service (through which you are given updates on their research & through which you are able to connect with potential relatives on the basis of similar DNA) for another $9/month, or you can prepay the Personal Genome Service subscription at $106. This is not expensive for what's provided. FamilyTreeDNA starts at $169 for YDNA, $159 for MtDNA, & $289 for the whole shebang.Quote:
Originally Posted by LightInDarkness
Hmmm. R1a/B seem to be the most popular. I'm guessing I'll end up being R1b.
E1b1b1c1 (E-M34) - Which according to 23andMe shows up in Sephardic and Ashkenazi paternal lines, which come as no surprise as my Paternal Grandfather's Paternal grandfather was a Lithuanian Jew of German Jew descent on his paternal side.
Looking at some of the online information about this Haplogroup and the Subclade, it very well looks like I can trace my direct paternal line to the Eastern side of the Dead Sea in Palestine (the ancient Kingdom of Moab).
J2b2 which is around 17-25 % at Albanians and is associated with Neolithic Greece.
^ Keep telling yourself that Turk :lmao:
^Keep your complexes for yourself faggot nobody was talking to you?
well he is right J is a Middle Eastern haplogroup
but they dont know the mutation founding the J2b subclade might have originated in Greece or in Anatolia
23andme has me at R-L21*, I probably belong to this group. Where the Surname Little is. L193
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...ection=results
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/att...1&d=1328484163Quote:
Origins:
R-L513 appears to have a wider scope than just the British Isles. Several TMRCA estimates give it most recent common ancestor mostly likely dates of around 200 B.C. This would be during the La Tene Celt era and the times leading up to expansion of the Roman Empire through Western Europe. Beside the British Isles, we have confirmed L513+ people from Sweden and Germany. We have several 11-13 people that are predicted to be L513+ from Northern France and Benelux.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/att...1&d=1328485068
My father's and maternal grandfather's Y-DNA is R1b1b2a.
My Y-DNA haplogroup is I2a2. :)
nothing to be proud of ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Türkü
If we go back in time then EV13 is nigger haplogroup, J2b originated in Balkans since outside Europe in fact only Albanians have such a high percentage of this subclade which ranges from 17-25% in various studies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
Proof? Not saying it isn't true, but do you have proof for these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
I was saying in a satirical manner to him since he says J2b2 is a Anatolian haplogroup and he goes back deep in time to claim that.I stated before i believe E1b1b carriers were Oriental looking fellas something between South to East Mediterranids.That would explain the more Caucasian appearance of EastAfricans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clementina
Early origins
The origin of Y-DNA Haplogroup J maps to the Middle East around the ‘Fertile Crescent’, an area also known as the ‘Cradle of Civilization’ since this area saw the birth of many technological advancements that helped humans move from nomadic hunter-gatherers to an agriculture-based society living in one place. The sprouting of some the first cities and empires in human history were contingent on these developments and featured the proliferation of Haplogroup J.
The J2b2 subclade is also present in Anatolia, specifically in the southern and eastern regions, which have been proposed as a source of J haplogroups for many regions. An interesting peak of the J2b2 subclade has been detected in Kosovar Albanians (~17%), whereas the J2b2 levels range from 1 to 4% in the Balkans overall.
http://www.dnaancestry.ae/Y-DNA-Haplogroup-J.php
Present in Anatolia but with maybe with 2% percentage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
Exaxtly that prove that this subclade is present on majority only amongst Albanians.
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
And ofcourse I mean my maternal grandfather with 'mother'. ;)
Eastern europeans think that R1a > R1b... but deep down they're just jelous :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Türkü
were does it say onely 2% i cant find it?Quote:
Originally Posted by safinator
LOL are you talking about J2b2 or J2/J in general since J2b2 is hardly find outside Albanian population.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
The J2b2 subclade is present in India, where it appears to have the highest frequency among the middle castes (Dravidian and Indo-European). Its overall level in India is ~5% and this frequency drops in half in neighboring Pakistan. J2b2 is also found in Nepal, but no J2b2 has been found in Tibet, providing strong evidence that the Northern spread of this subclade was prevented by the Himalaya Mountains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
The J2b2 subclade is also present in Anatolia, specifically in the southern and eastern regions, which have been proposed as a source of J haplogroups for many regions. An interesting peak of the J2b2 subclade has been detected in Kosovar Albanians (~17%), whereas the J2b2 levels range from 1 to 4% in the Balkans overall.
dont u try to claim J2b2 to or selfs now other people have it to :D
speaking of j2b2, i would highly recommend you to check out this dna study done by abu ameroQuote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/10/59
the study includes samples from all over the middle east, including 523 persons from anatolia/turkey (which is quite representative) but only a tiny number of turks i.e 0,96% were tested positive to j2b2-m241, latter is a very important marker among albanians, and most probably have its origins in the southern balkans.
the j2b2 presence on the indian subcontinent could be a remnant of neolithic migrations
Quote:
Our Saudi Arabia sample was compared to other Arabian
Peninsula populations and to surrounding areas using
data from previous studies performed at a similar level of
haplogroup resolution. These samples comprise, 72
Qatari, 164 United Arab Emirate and 62 Yemeni [15]; 121
Omani and 147 Egyptian [14]; 201 Somalis [17]; 916 Lebanese
[18]; 146 Jordanian [19]; 203 Iraqi (139 from Al-
Zahery et al. [20] and 64 from Sanchez et al. [17]); 523
Turks [21];150 Irani [22] and 176 Pakistani [23].
Are you trying to make me a Gypsy Serbian retard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
It peaks higher at Albanian population that is what matter no one owns a haplogroup.