Arpad dynasty DNA (kings of Hungary & Croatia)

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Originally Posted by blogen

Ok, the reality was totally different. The old Hungarians were mostly clear Europids, with an Europo-Mongoloid admixture elite, while at least 50% of the contemporary Hungarians are Europo-Mongoloid admixture. Yes, they are an dominantly Europid admixture, but a metised population, what metisation happened in here, in the last 1100 years. Racially there is a huge overlap between these two stage of the Magyars.

Anything other is baseless legends, mostly from the 19th century.

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Hello slovak turan monkey! Szlovák szórvány rusnya kevercse...

This is not supported by any automomal genetic researches or anthropological evidence. The hope dies last.... Doesn't it? Maybe the evil geneticist scientists conspired globally against your turan fantasy.....

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Originally Posted by Mingle

I'm not saying you're wrong, but where did you get the 20-25% number from? Are there any GEDmatch results of Old Hungarians? Would they have been closest to Mansis genetically?

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Pasthun people look like gypsies, so it is no wonder that you belong to the brown race.

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Originally Posted by Stears

Pasthun people look like gypsies, so it is no wonder that you belong to the brown race.

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You are genetically almost identical to Slovaks, deal with it.

Gypsies are very far from us and any resemblances are superficial. Yes, we belong to the brown race and you guys belong to the Eastern European (Slavo-Balkan) race :)

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Grad, miasto :D

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When I learned foreign languages, they taught me, that saraj looks like that: :laugh:


https://samostroy74.ru/images/Images...ai/Sarai_1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Mingle

I'm not saying you're wrong, but where did you get the 20-25% number from? Are there any GEDmatch results of Old Hungarians?

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The YDNA haplotypes for example:

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Originally Posted by blogen

Here are 488 random sample. This is an inappropriate statistics of course, because the sampling was not systematic from an area and totally subjective in space and time. Hovewer, 488 is much more than nothing.

The results: 118 persons, 24.1% R1a
- 4 persons, 0,8% R1a Z93
- 55 persons, 11,2% R1a Z280

So, almost half of the Hungarian R1a is potentially steppe related.

Other interesting results:
- 18 persons, 3,6% R1b M269 (proto-Aryan steppe R1b)
- 13 persons, 2,6% G2a (Caucasian subgrups)
- 10 persons, 2% Q
- 8 persons, 1,6% N (the non Balto-Slavic subgrups)
- 1 persons, 0,2% C

So at least 22% of the Y-DNA lineages are potentially conqueror Magyar origin types.

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The situation is similar at the mtDNA samples!

Hungarian conqueror common peoples:
http://s27.postimg.org/delv3vndv/a_h...csoportjai.jpg

Hungarian conqueror elite:
https://s23.postimg.org/amxwic62z/rasko04.jpg

Or an another study with different samples:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...and_others.png

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Would they have been closest to Mansis genetically?

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The Ob-Ugric peoples are much more distant from their ancient ancestors, than us!

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

(Don't say Bosniaks have it, most of "Turkic" loanwords in our language are of Persian origin, such as Saraj-evo itself)

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Many Persian "loans" into Turkic are envolved backformations from Proto-Turkic presence in the near east.

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Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan

Many Persian "loans" into Turkic are envolved backformations from Proto-Turkic presence in the near east.

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Anyways, I don't think it's the case with our Persian loanwords.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

proto-Latin came with R1b U152 for sure :)

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So why don't Bashkirs speak Latin then?

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Originally Posted by blogen

Hovewer, these populations were dominantly Eastern Europeans genetically, since they were Europids racially before the Mongoloid Turks arrived to the steppe!

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This is your own fantasy.

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Originally Posted by blogen

The YDNA haplotypes for example:

The situation is similar at the mtDNA samples!

Hungarian conqueror common peoples:
http://s27.postimg.org/delv3vndv/a_h...csoportjai.jpg

Hungarian conqueror elite:
https://s23.postimg.org/amxwic62z/rasko04.jpg

Or an another study with different samples:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...and_others.png

The Ob-Ugric peoples are much more distant from their ancient ancestors, than us!

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Don't forget the 10th century autosomal Hungarian mtDNA Turko-Subartu results :)