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it's simple, their pre-Slavic part is different. proto-Slavs had ~25% NA, so the first one had even more NA before Slavic admixture. and the second guy had NA in the 10s, and Slavic admixture gave him more NA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
check the ratios of these from different parts of Herzegovina:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6566375
first 2 -closer to the coast- more Greek and late Roman settlers?
Piva - up in the mountains- more Illyrian(they had high NA)?
Here's a particularly rare and interesting example. The man in question is a certain Stanić from Ohio, USA ( Y-DNA: I2A, mtDNA: U5b1e1). Two of his grandparents were born in the US in the beginning of the 20th century and the other two a bit earlier in "Yugoslavia". Basically he's a pure 3-4th generation Serbian-American! Impressive how they stay true to their roots!
Kit T321586
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.81
2 North_Atlantic 23.31
3 West_Med 16.15
4 East_Med 14.97
5 West_Asian 9.28
6 Red_Sea 1.93
7 Oceanian 0.64
8 Amerindian 0.64
9 East_Asian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.59
2 Serbian 6.03
3 Croatian 6.85
4 Romanian 8.18
5 Bulgarian 9.44
6 Hungarian 9.7
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.87
8 Austrian 13.84
9 South_Polish 13.94
10 Ukrainian 14.01
11 East_German 14.63
12 Southwest_Russian 16.91
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.16
14 Polish 17.2
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.21
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.89
17 Estonian_Polish 19.35
18 Belorussian 20.02
19 West_German 20.45
20 Kargopol_Russian 21.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Bulgarian + 27.7% Lithuanian @ 1.53
2 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Estonian_Polish @ 1.63
3 66.9% Bulgarian + 33.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.72
4 60% Bulgarian + 40% Ukrainian @ 1.88
5 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Belorussian @ 1.94
6 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% Central_Greek @ 1.99
7 57.3% Greek_Thessaly + 42.7% Lithuanian @ 2.05
8 58% Bulgarian + 42% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.09
9 56.6% Ukrainian + 43.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.09
10 65% Bulgarian + 35% Polish @ 2.1
11 50.9% Greek_Thessaly + 49.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.15
12 64.6% Bulgarian + 35.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.16
13 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Cyprian @ 2.2
14 50.8% Lithuanian + 49.2% Central_Greek @ 2.24
15 65.6% Ukrainian + 34.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.29
16 68.1% Ukrainian + 31.9% South_Italian @ 2.31
17 51.5% Greek_Thessaly + 48.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.37
18 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.37
19 56.6% Estonian_Polish + 43.4% Central_Greek @ 2.38
20 65% Bulgarian + 35% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.38
Here's another Serbian-American, Mrđenović (Y-DNA: R1a-M512; mtDNA: W1h). This is what he says about himself in his 'about me' box on FTDNA:
My four grandparents were Serbs living in Croatia who came to the USA in the first decade of the 1900s. I don't know anything about my great grandparents. Would like to know the ethnicity beyond being 100% Serbian American.
More precisely, he listed Vojnić (Kordun) and Dvor and Glina (Banija) as his places of origin. The high South Asian score is unusual, sadly FTDNA won't let me view his full results. he's the guy with highest South Asian value in vbnetkhio's opening post.
Kit T984751
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.08
2 North_Atlantic 26.26
3 East_Med 17.75
4 West_Med 15.89
5 West_Asian 8.37
6 South_Asian 2.91
7 Red_Sea 1.26
8 East_Asian 0.3
9 Siberian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.45
2 Romanian 4.63
3 Bulgarian 6.82
4 Moldavian 9.06
5 Hungarian 10.03
6 Croatian 10.99
7 Austrian 12.98
8 Greek_Thessaly 14.4
9 East_German 14.61
10 North_Italian 17.08
11 West_German 17.34
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.46
13 South_Polish 17.68
14 Tuscan 18.12
15 French 18.36
16 Ukrainian 18.54
17 South_Dutch 18.9
18 Italian_Abruzzo 20.34
19 Portuguese 20.69
20 Spanish_Galicia 21.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% South_Polish + 44.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.78
2 97.5% Serbian + 2.5% Chamar @ 2.83
3 97.5% Serbian + 2.5% Sakilli @ 2.86
4 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% North_Kannadi @ 2.87
5 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Chenchu @ 2.88
6 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Kol @ 2.88
7 97.5% Serbian + 2.5% Piramalai @ 2.88
8 97.5% Serbian + 2.5% Dusadh @ 2.9
9 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.9
10 97.5% Serbian + 2.5% Velamas @ 2.91
11 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Kanjar @ 2.93
12 97.6% Serbian + 2.4% Kurumba @ 2.93
13 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Dharkar @ 2.94
14 97.7% Serbian + 2.3% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 2.94
15 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% South_Polish @ 2.98
16 59.3% South_Polish + 40.7% South_Italian @ 3
17 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Kshatriya @ 3.02
18 97.4% Serbian + 2.6% Bangladeshi @ 3.02
19 55% Tuscan + 45% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.04
20 59.6% Hungarian + 40.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.05
As usual, the South Asian drastically reduces in other runsQuote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Population
Gedrosia 5.43 Pct
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.34 Pct
Atlantic_Med 27.45 Pct
North_European 38.56 Pct
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 21.44 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Norheastern Bosnia, between Bijeljina and Ozren
Slavonia+SremCode:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.64
2 North_Atlantic 21.57
3 West_Med 18.25
4 East_Med 16.09
5 West_Asian 8.06
6 South_Asian 2.8
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Amerindian 0.53
9 Oceanian 0.14
10 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.96
2 Serbian 7.4
3 Romanian 8.1
4 Bulgarian 8.81
5 Croatian 9.39
6 Hungarian 11.96
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.19
8 Austrian 15.78
9 Ukrainian 16.04
10 South_Polish 16.27
11 East_German 16.49
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.79
13 Southwest_Russian 19.04
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.45
15 Polish 19.51
16 Russian_Smolensk 21.12
17 North_Italian 21.18
18 Estonian_Polish 21.39
19 West_German 21.75
20 Tuscan 22.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.2% Ukrainian + 48.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.79
2 61.6% Greek_Thessaly + 38.4% Lithuanian @ 4.11
3 56.3% Greek_Thessaly + 43.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.13
4 66.8% Bulgarian + 33.2% Ukrainian @ 4.3
5 67.9% Ukrainian + 32.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.33
6 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% South_Italian @ 4.33
7 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.36
8 53.3% Greek_Thessaly + 46.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.38
9 60.4% Ukrainian + 39.6% Central_Greek @ 4.41
10 56% Greek_Thessaly + 44% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.44
11 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Lithuanian @ 4.45
12 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% East_Sicilian @ 4.53
13 52.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.55
14 74.8% Bulgarian + 25.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.57
15 71.1% Bulgarian + 28.9% Southwest_Russian @ 4.62
16 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.63
17 57.4% Greek_Thessaly + 42.6% Belorussian @ 4.66
18 75.8% Moldavian + 24.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.67
19 66% Bulgarian + 34% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.68
20 66.5% Croatian + 33.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.69
Miloš Živković - writerCode:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.21
2 North_Atlantic 27.86
3 West_Med 17.61
4 East_Med 13.86
5 West_Asian 9.64
6 Siberian 1.57
7 Northeast_African 0.47
8 Red_Sea 0.44
9 East_Asian 0.32
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.31
2 Romanian 6.25
3 Moldavian 7.08
4 Hungarian 7.74
5 Croatian 8.82
6 Bulgarian 8.85
7 Austrian 10.34
8 East_German 11.88
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.34
10 West_German 15.43
11 South_Polish 15.54
12 Ukrainian 16.45
13 South_Dutch 16.87
14 French 17.02
15 Greek_Thessaly 17.05
16 North_Italian 17.6
17 Polish 19.32
18 Tuscan 19.78
19 North_German 20.02
20 Portuguese 20.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.7% Bulgarian + 42.3% East_German @ 2.33
2 67.1% Romanian + 32.9% East_German @ 2.6
3 72.7% Moldavian + 27.3% North_Italian @ 2.7
4 53.9% North_Italian + 46.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.75
5 70.1% Croatian + 29.9% Tuscan @ 2.81
6 54.7% Ukrainian + 45.3% Tuscan @ 2.82
7 54.3% Bulgarian + 45.7% Austrian @ 2.84
8 87.8% Serbian + 12.2% East_German @ 2.9
9 56.5% Romanian + 43.5% Hungarian @ 2.92
10 53.8% Hungarian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.93
11 87.4% Serbian + 12.6% Austrian @ 2.98
12 80.7% Romanian + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3
13 85.7% Serbian + 14.3% Croatian @ 3
14 84.5% Serbian + 15.5% Hungarian @ 3.03
15 64.4% Romanian + 35.6% Austrian @ 3.04
16 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Ukrainian @ 3.04
17 83.1% Serbian + 16.9% Moldavian @ 3.04
18 96.5% Serbian + 3.5% French_Basque @ 3.05
19 92.3% Serbian + 7.7% South_Polish @ 3.05
20 56.2% South_Polish + 43.8% Tuscan @ 3.05
Montenegrin from Kuči tribeCode:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.23
2 North_Atlantic 24.94
3 West_Med 16.28
4 East_Med 13.42
5 West_Asian 9.15
6 Red_Sea 2.68
7 Amerindian 1.06
8 Oceanian 0.7
9 Sub-Saharan 0.54
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.14
2 Serbian 4.71
3 Croatian 6.35
4 Romanian 7.59
5 Hungarian 8.17
6 Bulgarian 9.5
7 Austrian 11.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.78
9 East_German 12.92
10 South_Polish 13.76
11 Ukrainian 14.16
12 Polish 17.08
13 Southwest_Russian 17.46
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.69
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.13
16 West_German 18.37
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.15
18 Estonian_Polish 19.68
19 South_Dutch 19.82
20 Belorussian 20.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% Central_Greek @ 1.33
2 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% East_Sicilian @ 1.39
3 82.6% Croatian + 17.4% South_Italian @ 1.43
4 74.5% Croatian + 25.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.44
5 60.3% Croatian + 39.7% Bulgarian @ 1.55
6 84.9% Croatian + 15.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.58
7 85% Croatian + 15% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.67
8 85% Croatian + 15% Italian_Jewish @ 1.7
9 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Cyprian @ 1.72
10 59.6% Polish + 40.4% Central_Greek @ 1.77
11 51.5% Polish + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.81
12 86.2% Croatian + 13.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.82
13 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% West_Sicilian @ 1.83
14 63.4% Polish + 36.6% South_Italian @ 1.84
15 80% Croatian + 20% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.87
16 54.8% Croatian + 45.2% Romanian @ 1.88
17 82% Croatian + 18% Ashkenazi @ 1.88
18 64.6% Bulgarian + 35.4% Polish @ 1.91
19 58.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.94
20 86.3% Croatian + 13.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.94
Badovinac - Serbian noble family from White CarniolaCode:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.99
2 North_Atlantic 23.64
3 West_Med 18.24
4 East_Med 17.13
5 West_Asian 11.85
6 Amerindian 1.35
7 Red_Sea 0.79
8 Northeast_African 0.55
9 Siberian 0.26
10 Oceanian 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.71
2 Bulgarian 3.86
3 Serbian 5.22
4 Moldavian 9.73
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.39
6 Croatian 12.54
7 Hungarian 12.6
8 Austrian 15.43
9 North_Italian 16.69
10 East_German 17.12
11 Tuscan 17.2
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.52
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.06
14 Central_Greek 19.21
15 West_German 19.49
16 South_Polish 19.81
17 French 20.08
18 West_Sicilian 20.11
19 Ukrainian 20.26
20 East_Sicilian 20.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Bulgarian + 15.9% East_German @ 2.14
2 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Croatian @ 2.18
3 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Hungarian @ 2.26
4 75.4% Bulgarian + 24.6% Moldavian @ 2.31
5 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Austrian @ 2.34
6 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% South_Polish @ 2.35
7 88.4% Bulgarian + 11.6% Polish @ 2.36
8 87% Bulgarian + 13% Ukrainian @ 2.4
9 88.4% Romanian + 11.6% Moldavian @ 2.42
10 86.3% Bulgarian + 13.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.42
11 90.3% Bulgarian + 9.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.42
12 91.6% Romanian + 8.4% Croatian @ 2.47
13 90.3% Bulgarian + 9.7% North_Swedish @ 2.47
14 94.8% Romanian + 5.2% Ukrainian @ 2.48
15 91.1% Bulgarian + 8.9% Estonian @ 2.48
16 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.5
17 94.8% Romanian + 5.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
18 95.8% Romanian + 4.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.52
19 96.6% Romanian + 3.4% Erzya @ 2.52
20 96.8% Romanian + 3.2% Lithuanian @ 2.52
if Kuči are 25% Baltic, i wonder who those Montenegrins with 20-22% are.Code:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.47
2 Baltic 29.18
3 West_Med 17.89
4 East_Med 11.17
5 West_Asian 5.65
6 Red_Sea 1.93
7 Amerindian 1.44
8 Siberian 0.89
9 Northeast_African 0.32
10 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 5.63
2 Austrian 6.78
3 Serbian 6.99
4 East_German 7.95
5 Croatian 8.29
6 Moldavian 8.71
7 Romanian 10.72
8 West_German 12.48
9 Bulgarian 13.44
10 South_Dutch 13.6
11 South_Polish 13.87
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.04
13 French 14.38
14 Ukrainian 15.11
15 North_German 16.61
16 Polish 17.25
17 North_Italian 18.46
18 North_Swedish 18.55
19 Spanish_Galicia 18.55
20 Southeast_English 18.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Polish + 48.3% North_Italian @ 1.66
2 72.1% Croatian + 27.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.71
3 88.5% Hungarian + 11.5% Sardinian @ 1.76
4 71% Croatian + 29% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.78
5 72% Croatian + 28% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.8
6 75% Croatian + 25% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.83
7 56.3% North_Italian + 43.7% Estonian @ 1.84
8 69.7% Croatian + 30.3% Portuguese @ 1.91
9 70.2% Croatian + 29.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.91
10 73.1% Croatian + 26.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.93
11 58.1% North_Italian + 41.9% Lithuanian @ 1.98
12 51.2% Southwest_Russian + 48.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.06
13 71.7% Croatian + 28.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.11
14 72.4% Croatian + 27.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.14
15 69.7% Croatian + 30.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.14
16 53.6% Southwest_Russian + 46.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.18
17 73.7% Croatian + 26.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.23
18 57.3% South_Polish + 42.7% North_Italian @ 2.3
19 52.8% North_Italian + 47.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.35
20 50.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.37
My mom from Ceranje Donje and Miranje donje villages.
1 North_Atlantic 27.33
2 Baltic 26.94
3 West_Med 15.6
4 East_Med 14.65
5 West_Asian 12.26
6 East_Asian 1.52
7 Red_Sea 0.8
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Oceanian 0.34
10 Northeast_African 0.07
1 94.1% Serbian + 5.9% Tabassaran @ 2.38
2 94.2% Serbian + 5.8% Chechen @ 2.41
3 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% Lezgin @ 2.44
4 94.8% Serbian + 5.2% North_Ossetian @ 2.47
5 95% Serbian + 5% Ossetian @ 2.48
6 94.6% Serbian + 5.4% Balkar @ 2.5
7 94.5% Serbian + 5.5% Kabardin @ 2.51
8 94.9% Serbian + 5.1% Adygei @ 2.56
9 96.1% Serbian + 3.9% Abhkasian @ 2.64
10 94.7% Serbian + 5.3% Kumyk @ 2.65
Geneplaza
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she is that type with roughly equal Baltic and north Atlantic, like the Slavonia+Srem person from my last post, but she also has increased West AsianQuote:
Originally Posted by Tie red
We can ask the same about 35-36% Baltic Serbs whose ancestry you don't seem to question, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Ajmo narode u 500 jevreja da će Pribislav i ova Rvatica da se smuvaju na kraju. :biggrin:
He needs a Russian woman to increase Baltic score in his descendants. I can see Pribislav advocating Serb-Russian mixing campaign to increase their Slavicness.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate