Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

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Originally Posted by Lemgrant

what do you get on EUtest? actually post your EUtest ver.1 unsorted admix results, I want to see where you plot on pca

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SOUTH_BALTIC 23.75 Pct
EAST_EURO 18.48 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.36 Pct
ATLANTIC 18.74 Pct
WEST_MED 9.14 Pct
EAST_MED 7.20 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 4.80 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.50 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Im a Turboserb according to this updated K13 calculator
https://i.imgur.com/VxoRmYj.png
https://i.imgur.com/RgO2qjP.png

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

I will add Croat Bosnian ref, but tomorrow...

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Serbian_Bosnian is this academic from 4 samples. There isn't other one.

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could you add the Romanians from Gorj and Apuseni?

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Originally Posted by andre

i know it due to Nmontes runner.

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maybe it will be different in k13.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I don't know, but it would be fair to have all 3 nations in BiH or none, just generic Bosnian average.
Because than anyone close to Bosnians will get Bosnian Serbs. It isn't fair.

On K16 my father gets Croats(Croatia), than BiH Croats, than Bosniaks and than Bosnian Serbs.

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they are not the same people. Bosnian Croats and Bosniaks have a noticeably higher Baltic average.

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

My new K13

Distance to: ph2ter
3.30109073 Czech
4.09696749 Slovak
5.26153970 Hungarian
5.94740631 Slovenian
6.04093536 East_German
7.13595824 Croatian
7.33124819 Austrian
8.02059225 South_Polish
9.16689697 Ukrainian_Lviv
9.83138851 Csango_Gymes
10.31146934 Moldavian
10.58923510 Ukrainian
10.76851893 Szekely
11.03357093 Serbian_Bosnia
11.28085546 Southern_Croat
11.64632560 Polish
11.79685975 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
12.10448192 Bosnian
12.95402640 Cossacks_Kuban
13.66042453 Serbian_new
14.63608896 Southwest_Finnish
14.68577203 North_Swedish
14.99077383 Southwest_Russian
15.19659172 Ukrainian_Belgorod
15.20328254 Russian_Smolensk

Distance to: ph2terWife
4.94454245 Hungarian
5.54556617 Slovak
5.59329062 Czech
5.95002152 Slovenian
6.99735664 Croatian
7.07202941 East_German
7.58989460 Austrian
9.20980456 Moldavian
9.38082086 South_Polish
9.45644225 Csango_Gymes
9.54747611 Szekely
10.25027987 Serbian_Bosnia
10.32079939 Ukrainian_Lviv
10.48908957 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
10.94615896 Bosnian
10.98544492 Southern_Croat
11.67458779 Ukrainian
12.59427018 Serbian_new
13.37600090 Polish
14.83489467 Cossacks_Kuban
15.18372813 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
15.80871203 Montenegrin
15.84958359 Ukrainian_Belgorod
15.96662770 Southwest_Russian
16.31771124 West_German

Distance to: ph2ter_son
4.59373486 Hungarian
4.74496376 Slovak
5.03326932 Czech
5.32984177 Slovenian
6.40675425 Croatian
7.10707394 East_German
7.57825838 Austrian
8.64141192 Csango_Gymes
8.94076059 Moldavian
8.95268116 South_Polish
9.28676478 Szekely
9.70181426 Ukrainian_Lviv
9.75899521 Serbian_Bosnia
10.29497450 Southern_Croat
10.30640092 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
10.66251953 Bosnian
11.22934103 Ukrainian
12.25784349 Serbian_new
12.83733228 Polish
14.08923703 Cossacks_Kuban
14.98089116 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
15.51730325 Southwest_Russian
15.51946520 Ukrainian_Belgorod
15.63251800 Montenegrin
16.13654238 Russian_Smolensk

Distance to: ph2ter_dad
3.14369210 Hungarian
3.54384966 Slovenian
4.01496675 Slovak
4.84460525 Czech
5.77493723 Croatian
7.15582979 East_German
7.39585019 Csango_Gymes
7.43113719 Austrian
7.94935768 Serbian_Bosnia
8.19029914 Szekely
8.21330019 Southern_Croat
8.69200782 Moldavian
9.26751186 Bosnian
9.30230617 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
9.30390778 South_Polish
10.32405928 Ukrainian_Lviv
10.63114689 Serbian_new
11.42524836 Ukrainian
13.39164292 Polish
13.81767347 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
14.38425941 Montenegrin
14.94505938 Cossacks_Kuban
15.82353627 Southwest_Russian
16.12289676 Romanian_Oltenia
16.31798394 Ukrainian_Belgorod

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

SOUTH_BALTIC 23.75 Pct
EAST_EURO 18.48 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.36 Pct
ATLANTIC 18.74 Pct
WEST_MED 9.14 Pct
EAST_MED 7.20 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 4.80 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.50 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

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on EUtest pca you are very Czech shifted

https://i.imgur.com/6BR2FLT.png
https://i.imgur.com/pQbghUM.png

https://lemgrant.github.io/eutest2dpca/
https://i.imgur.com/G7ZyrCu.png

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I don't know, but it would be fair to have all 3 nations in BiH or none, just generic Bosnian average.

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The same goes for "Kosovar" component. Don't know is it still here or removed but it appears in other calculators as well.
It should have results of Kosovo Serbs as well not just Albanians (but it wouldn't be much useful then) or it should be clearly named Kosovo_Albanians component (with Albanian results).

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I don't know, but it would be fair to have all 3 nations in BiH or none, just generic Bosnian average.
Because than anyone close to Bosnians will get Bosnian Serbs. It isn't fair.

On K16 my father gets Croats(Croatia), than BiH Croats, than Bosniaks and than Bosnian Serbs.

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Is there really such a great divide between the 3 Bosnian ethnicities even? I am aware that because of religious divides they have mostly only mixed among themselves for centuries, but since they also have spoken the same language for centuries I can really see that many have ignored religious divisions and married each other, thus resulting in a pretty similar population all over Bosnia-Herzegovina. Or am I wrong?

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Originally Posted by Moje ime

The same goes for "Kosovar" component. Don't know is it still here or removed but it appears in other calculators as well.
It should have results of Kosovo Serbs as well not just Albanians (but it wouldn't be much useful then) or it should be clearly named Kosovo_Albanians component (with Albanian results).

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Yes, I agree.

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Originally Posted by Dunai

Is there really such a great divide between the 3 Bosnian ethnicities even? I am aware that because of religious divides they have mostly only mixed among themselves for centuries, but since they also have spoken the same language for centuries I can really see that many have ignored religious divisions and married each other, thus resulting in a pretty similar population all over Bosnia-Herzegovina. Or am I wrong?

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They are similar people, with little differences from what I have seen.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

they are not the same people. Bosnian Croats and Bosniaks have a noticeably higher Baltic average.

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Both are diverse (some have very low Baltic, some very high) and Baltic isn't everything. My father has high North Atlantic, for example. He isn't particulary southern shifted at all.
Just a bit south-east from Croatian K15 dot, which is very Central European itself.