Gauls?Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
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Gauls?Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
the bronze & iron samples from the last French study: https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB36529Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
ran a few Shetlanders through K15 I match on Gedmatch. Easier to get those than other isolated areas. Nice match up to Bronze age Northern Isles.
https://i.postimg.cc/bJzVGLX7/image.png
Where can I find the French bronze and iron age files to use vahaduo or make a pca?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Comes under source when you look in the ancient calcs. http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
Can you (or someone else) make a PCA with these? run a PCAwith the modern French samplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham
France_BA_BIS130,45.67,18.46,17.38,13.12,0.15,0.1, 0,0.91,0,1.49,1.98,0.76,0
France_BA_BIS385,45.38,22.23,14.31,2.15,9.39,0,1,0 ,2.19,1.88,0,1.47,0
France_BA_EUG11,42.91,13.91,35.31,0,5.46,0.97,0,0, 0.16,0,1.04,0,0.24
France_BA_NIED,38.72,12.03,34.94,4.58,3.71,0,2.6,2 .05,0.86,0,0,0.49,0.02
France_BA_OBE3626-1,49.85,23.26,11.7,10.39,0,0,0,0,2.22,2.02,0.55,0, 0
France_BA_OBE3722,44.1,28.48,8.5,10.57,0,0.81,4.76 ,0,0,2.79,0,0,0
France_BA_PIR3037AB,33.25,12.47,34.09,0,15.45,0,0, 0.37,0,0.77,1.73,1.88,0
France_BA_PIR3116B,54.96,13.18,16.4,3.3,6.32,0,0.9 7,0.77,0,2.71,1.21,0,0.18
France_BA_PSS4170,43.35,17.37,27.56,0.95,7.12,0.58 ,0,1.05,0,1.55,0.31,0.16,0
France_BA_QUIN234,39.42,12.27,35.9,0,10.5,0.62,0.7 8,0.51,0,0,0,0,0
France_BA_QUIN58,32.26,19.79,31.8,0,4.08,8.53,0.27 ,2,0,1.06,0,0,0.22
France_BA_RIX15,39.19,18.88,27.85,6.01,1.08,1.43,4 .47,0,0.36,0.75,0,0,0
France_BA_RIX2,44.06,18.34,20.84,0,10.48,1.85,2.72 ,0,0,1.72,0,0,0
France_BA_RIX4,46.05,22.18,15.98,3.21,8.49,0.02,2. 93,0,0,0.36,0,0,0.78
France_IA_ATT26,43.25,20.56,23.86,1.11,4.84,0,4.11 ,0,0,0,0.02,0.55,1.71
France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1.84,0,1. 02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
France_IA_BFM265,50.23,18.91,16.29,3.46,9.55,0.25, 0.21,0,0,0.42,0.35,0.34,0
France_IA_COL11,46.34,25.76,16.72,3.7,0,0,5.86,0,0 ,0,0,0,1.63
France_IA_COL153A,41.26,20.62,18.22,0,16.67,3.22,0 ,0,0,0,0,0,0
France_IA_COL153i,42.21,16.69,22.85,6.74,4.15,0.03 ,0,0,1.68,0,3.73,1.92,0
France_IA_ERS1164,43.93,20.07,18.31,6.75,4.79,0.2, 0.96,0.84,2.7,0,0.11,0,1.32
France_IA_ERS86,37.1,22.42,26.11,2.55,7.85,1.32,0, 0,0,0.15,0.98,0.76,0.75
France_IA_ERS88,37.83,12.85,19.92,3.27,22.4,2.1,0, 0,0,1.23,0,0.39,0
France_IA_Jeb8,43.92,15.69,26.17,0.18,7.86,0.73,0, 0,0,2.59,2.86,0,0
France_IA_NOR2B6,35.99,20.81,21.36,1.94,15.77,3.81 ,0,0,0.31,0,0,0,0
France_IA_NOR3-15,44.5,19.56,20.91,3.4,4.03,2.54,0,0,0.86,0.29,1. 18,2.74,0
France_IA_NOR3-6,44.12,24.13,17.5,7.58,0.59,2.92,1.83,0,0,0.71,0. 38,0.24,0
France_IA_NOR4,34.72,15.03,30.23,0,18.12,0,0,0,1.3 6,0,0.54,0,0
France_IA_PECH5,46.11,10.41,36.34,0,1.22,0.97,0,1. 9,0.91,2.15,0,0,0
France_IA_PEY53,53.92,15.17,13.26,6.82,6.26,2.42,0 ,0,0,0.82,1.32,0,0
Please add all these new Hungarian references to K13, on which I worked for a long time and are based on infinitely more numerous and more carefully selected unbiased samples, and which aim to replace all previous Hungarian references for this calculator:
Hungarian,31.35742857,32.24285714,14.328,7.3168571 43,9.827428571,1.143428571,0.795142857,0.502857143 ,1.178857143,0.612285714,0.276571429,0.293428571,0 .096285714
Hungarian_Alfold,29.27673077,33.27173077,14.505576 92,7.030192308,10.82615385,1.161346154,0.626538462 ,0.579423077,1.2825,0.656730769,0.429615385,0.2209 61538,0.107692308
Hungarian_Budapest,31.35742857,32.24285714,14.328, 7.316857143,9.827428571,1.143428571,0.795142857,0. 502857143,1.178857143,0.612285714,0.276571429,0.29 3428571,0.096285714
Hungarian_Csango,26.32625,29.2275,14.90875,7.75,13 .98375,1.9125,1.555,0.6675,2.1925,0.6625,0.5125,0. 12375,0.18
Hungarian_Northern,31.3126087,35.60608696,12.84695 652,6.06826087,9.393043478,0.814347826,1.046521739 ,0.508695652,1.066521739,0.553478261,0.472608696,0 .173478261,0.134782609
Hungarian_Szekely,28.47555556,28.19555556,15.15916 667,8.2125,12.88833333,1.376388889,0.937222222,0.8 89444444,2.439722222,0.765277778,0.283333333,0.248 611111,0.148333333
Hungarian_Transdanubia,32.22944444,31.69527778,14. 10305556,7.113333333,10.52555556,1.025833333,0.612 777778,0.415,0.916666667,0.598333333,0.428611111,0 .113888889,0.196944444
Hungarian_Transylvania,28.08857143,29.17071429,15. 62214286,8.200714286,11.98857143,1.721428571,1.242 142857,0.426428571,2.154285714,0.763571429,0.27428 5714,0.137142857,0.137142857
These should be replaced:
Csango_Gymes,27.25,29.91,14.27,7.02,11.16,3.75,1.2 5,0.88,2.8,0.76,0,1.00,0
Hungarian,30.92,31.31,13.19,7.45,10.4,1.25,0.85,0. 41,1.35,0.81,0.23,0.27,0.08
Hungarian_East,32.83,34.08,12.65,6.39,8.86,1.15,0. 98,0.75,1.21,0.48,0.62,0.14,0.14
Hungarian_Transdanubia,35.28,29.02,14.14,6.92,11.0 1,0.53,1.25,0.04,1.02,0.57,0.34,0.18,0.24
Szekely_Hungarian,26.90,32.16,14.49,7.67,11.72,1.7 7,0.94,0.66,1.07,0.90,0.45,0.13,0.17
Luke doesn't update anything, a few things from me have been pending for several days...
All updated:) Also to K13 added new Hungarian regionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
here:Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
https://i.imgur.com/K8MIHoN.png
Bosniak NE (former Tuzla) average should be removed, it's completely unrealistic based on 3 cherrypicked samples and scoring higher Baltic than northern Hungarian averages lol. Lukasz you can freely return Croatian averages I made too.
Actually you should wait while I update them.
Bosniak_Sarajevo by Vbnet is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
it's 4 samples now, without that guy who was just assumed to be from Tuzla because of his results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
i predict it will remain at least 33-34 baltic on a larger sample.
a man from the Zenica region tested 10 of his family members (they are counted as one sample in the average) and they range from 31-37 Baltic, 35 on average.
from my experience large families usually show the entire range of a region.
Please add this Szekely average to Dodecadk12b, I've made the average out of 12 samples:
Code:HUN_Szekely,5.69,2.23,0.86,0.54,27.11,38.92,0.47,0.07,3.83,1.74,18.51,0.02
Than it should remain :)Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
The current Sarajevo average includes the Gypsy and Hungarian... who'll contact Lukasz to replace it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I have only laptop here, that is why I have been slower to update. Vbnethkio I can send you all my database if you want, if you do averages in excel or something.
I do it manually and it is less precise, I probably miscalculated smaller percentages. Mistakes happen when manually counting.
ok. you ran all those samples i sent you through k13? just so i know should i run them or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
I think so yes. Wait i'll try to send you in PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
If he reads this, he can do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
A solid Balkan Gypsy average made by CommonSense
For HarappaWorld, made by myselfCode:Balkan_Gypsy,9.73,9.53,12.55,16.84,18.44,2.86,26.43,1.28,0.92,0.27,0.61,0.45,0.09
I will do the same for Dodecad.Code:Balkan_Gypsy,21.32,15.71,24.40,14.66,1.03,0.76,0.25,0.54,0.32,0.26,13.74,6.83,0,0.05,0.08,0.03
2way models for this averageQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Code:[1,] "66.1 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 33.9 % Sakilli" "1.8162"
[2,] "65.4 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 34.6 % Piramalai" "1.8818"
[3,] "61.8 % Greek_Eastern-Thrace + 38.2 % Velamas" "2.0362"
[4,] "36 % Dusadh + 64 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace" "2.0503"
[5,] "60.7 % Central_Greek + 39.3 % Kanjar" "2.1459"
[6,] "36.2 % Chenchu + 63.8 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace" "2.186"
[7,] "33.9 % Chamar + 66.1 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace" "2.348"
[8,] "62.8 % GR_Peloponese + 37.2 % Velamas" "2.3637"
[9,] "59.9 % Central_Greek + 40.1 % Dharkar" "2.5033"
[10,] "62.2 % Greek_Eastern-Thrace + 37.8 % Kurumba" "2.5507"
[11,] "63.5 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 36.5 % Kol" "2.605"
[12,] "34.6 % Piramalai + 65.4 % Turk_Crete" "2.6239"
[13,] "63 % Central_Greek + 37 % North_Kannadi" "2.722"
[14,] "63.4 % Turk_Crete + 36.6 % Velamas" "2.7299"
[15,] "36.1 % Dusadh + 63.9 % Turk_Crete" "2.7371"
[16,] "63.8 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 36.2 % Kurumba" "2.7555"
[17,] "62.6 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 37.4 % Uttar_Pradesh" "2.8264"
[18,] "60.7 % East_Sicilian + 39.3 % Kanjar" "2.8739"
[19,] "64.2 % Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 35.8 % North_Kannadi" "2.8964"
[20,] "55.7 % Ashkenazi + 44.3 % Kshatriya" "2.943"
Well, CS already ran them through Vahaduo, very conclusiveQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
https://i.imgur.com/1CGtiZE.png
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Croat averages are ready, Lukasz now you can add them to replace old ones. Thanks to Vbenthkio who made them in Excel! :thumb001:
Croat,27.48,32.33,15.42,8.08,12.72,1.46,0.47,0.28, 0.55,0.55,0.38,0.09,0.13
Croat_Bosnia,27.16,32.16,15.65,7.10,13.79,1.69,0.7 2,0.17,0.60,0.33,0.43,0.08,0.13
Croat_Central,30.74,33.57,14.42,7.73,9.37,1.29,0.9 1,0.08,0.44,0.55,0.56,0.06,0.37
Croat_Dalmatia,26.27,31.20,16.25,8.39,13.68,1.60,0 .44,0.25,0.59,0.55,0.49,0.13,0.14
Croat_Gorski-kotar,31.53,32.50,14.46,7.52,10.28,1.15,0.62,0.29, 0.53,0.55,0.31,0.14,0.12
Croat_Herzegovina,25.13,32.43,15.65,8.53,14.33,1.2 1,0.56,0.20,0.57,0.56,0.41,0.02,0.11
Croat_Istria,25.62,32.50,15.94,8.05,14.40,1.80,0.2 1,0.37,0.24,0.25,0.43,0.06,0.13
Croat_Lika-Senj,26.68,32.74,15.19,7.93,13.18,1.91,0.32,0.31,0 .60,0.53,0.40,0.11,0.11
Croat_Slavonia,27.54,30.87,14.31,10.36,13.14,1.12, 0.00,0.16,1.31,1.17,0.01,0.00,0.03
Croat_Tropolje,26.02,31.63,15.82,9.63,12.86,1.57,0 .38,0.59,0.53,0.63,0.12,0.11,0.11
Croat_Zagorje,31.65,34.32,13.07,7.78,8.75,1.54,0.7 4,0.55,0.29,0.82,0.23,0.09,0.16
Croat_Zagreb,28.94,33.94,14.98,7.10,11.16,1.43,0.3 7,0.44,0.52,0.44,0.47,0.15,0.17
K15:
Distance to: G
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
5.07261274 South_Dutch
6.90554125 Belgium
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England
10.66115847 Dutch
11.54575247 North_Dutch
11.60542115 Italy_Aostavalley
11.62628488 Irish
11.91464645 Austrian
12.61438068 West_Scottish
12.61570450 Scotland
13.71497721 Hungarian
13.83536411 Danish
14.02068829 Kaykavian_Croatian
14.08120023 Czech
14.16888492 Orcadian
14.33753117 Swedish
Distance: 0.8407% / 0.84066993
50.0 North_Dutch
13.6 French_Basque
10.6 Lithuanian
8.0 Italy_Aostavalley
5.0 Abhkasian
4.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
4.2 North_Ossetian
3.4 Southwest_English
0.4 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.2 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.2 Mbuti_Pygmy
Distance: 2.1257% / 2.12570904 | ADC: 0.25x
63.6 German_Bavarian
24.4 North_German
5.8 East_German
3.6 North_Ossetian
2.2 French_Basque
0.2 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.2 Sudanese
Changing the ADC to 0.25x seems to change the results a lot.
Dodecad V3 :
Distance to: kevin
2.26746555 Argyll
2.61158955 N._European
3.11990384 Orkney
3.30814147 Orcadian
4.03068232 CEU
Target: kevin
Distance: 1.5297% / 1.52970733 | ADC: 0.5x
64.0 Argyll
25.6 Northern_European
9.8 Mixed_Germanic
0.6 Burusho
Eurogenes EUtest :
Distance to: kevin
2.57996124 Orcadian (NorthEast Scottish)
2.93414383 Irish
2.93586444 Cornish
3.64875321 Scottish
4.96199557 English
Target: kevin
Distance: 1.5923% / 1.59230867 | ADC: 0.5x
42.2 Cornish
39.6 Orcadian (NorthEast Scotland)
17.6 Scottish
0.6 South_Indian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqeY...QuBlZ&index=16
Dude, I don't care I use up to 0.5.X to get rid of all the noise because the British company LivingDNA is telling me I'm 100% European but this Greek monkey science and Polack science tries to tell me I'm part non-white. I'll do my K15 I don't trust it because it says I'm English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gründig
Dodecad K12b:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Code:Balkan_Gypsy,14.55,0.77,1.09,1.17,14.71,13.79,21.76,0.04,6.77,0.33,24.94,0.06
I might have already done this in this thread don't remember :
Eurogenes K15 :
Distance to: kevin
2.81662919 England
2.88652040 Dutch
3.75050663 Scotland
4.22808467 Southwest_English
4.31929392 Southeast_English
4.41881206 North_Dutch
4.97456531 West_Scottish
5.04011905 Irish
Target: kevin
Distance: 1.4861% / 1.48607186 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 England
14.0 Norway
1.2 Chechen
0.8 Selkup
0.4 Papuan
0.4 Yoruban
Can you add Polish regions to Vahaduo, at least for one or two calculators? Poland's regional averages are completely non-existent here even though we have many regional averages for their neighbors. I'm assuming you probably have many Polish regional averages with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
I'll add some few basic ones. For Dodecad K12b at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
A few for K13 would be nice too if possible. Its the most widely used one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
K13/15 has Polish, South_Polish and Polish_Estonian. Those samples aren't bad since David is Polish himself.
Added, also for K12bQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
AddedQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
And addedQuote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Lukasz, could you split the lombardy average with these (K13):
Lombardia_Orobia,33.02,11.21,25.86,6.82,19.58,2.31 ,0.24,0.13,0.25,0.21,0.05,0.23,0.03
Lombardia_Insubria,32.58,12.51,24.96,7.90,18.79,2. 07,0.05,0.27,0.12,0.14,0.21,0.22,0.12
23AndMe
Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
4.00468476 East_German
6.94743838 German_east
7.24774164 Hungarian_Transdanubia
7.88518682 Hungarian_Budapest
8.00033124 Croat_Gorski-kotar
8.01659529 Croat_Zagorje
8.14288647 Czech
8.74561604 Croat_Central
8.76476859 Hungarian_Northern
8.77407931 Hungarian
9.68033052 Slovenian
9.87765876 Slovak
10.10673542 Hungarian_Alfold
10.11881910 German_West
10.71518549 Croat_Zagreb
10.71997201 West_German
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.34722874 North_German
11.58932699 South_Dutch
11.69656787 Danish
11.89489425 Hungarian_Transylvania
12.09803715 Hungarian_Szekely
12.49913997 Croat
12.55726085 Swedish
13.05080074 Croat_Bosnia
13.14078765 Croat_Slavonia
13.26481813 Swiss_French
13.27533050 Croat_Lika-Senj
13.69373579 Moldova_North
13.72289692 North-Swedish
13.86021284 South_Polish
13.96531619 Hungarian_Csango
13.98615387 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
14.02118041 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
14.08003196 Croat_Dalmatia
14.23224859 Croat_Tropolje
14.38329587 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
14.68554051 Serb_B&H
14.85988223 Croat_Istria
14.89497902 English
15.09196806 Bosniak
15.24642253 Norwegian
15.25711965 North-Dutch
15.33211662 Croat_Herzegovina
15.44145719 Southeast_English
15.45320040 Bosniak_Sarajevo
15.58036906 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
15.66743438 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
15.67908798 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.02976606 Serb_B&H_Krajina
16.05962017 French
16.07854471 Orcadian
16.08246250 Serb_Croatia
16.22049938 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
16.24209654 Southwest_Finnish
16.42734610 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
16.51855321 Serb
16.73171539 Ukrainian
17.15703354 Serb_Serbia
17.19915986 Polish
17.38788371 Irish
17.69550508 Southwest_English
FTDNA
Distance to: Oszkar
4.60931665 Austrian
4.96057456 East_German
7.63717880 German_east
7.71603222 Hungarian_Transdanubia
8.52339904 Hungarian_Budapest
8.64382439 Croat_Gorski-kotar
8.75839026 Czech
8.88113731 Croat_Zagorje
9.21222126 Hungarian_Northern
9.31368575 Hungarian
9.57190681 Croat_Central
9.85700259 German_West
10.41804204 West_German
10.45112771 Slovenian
10.58319151 Slovak
10.66091897 Hungarian_Alfold
10.82237959 Swiss_German
11.03969202 North_German
11.23206570 Danish
11.35575625 Croat_Zagreb
11.36546963 South_Dutch
12.15008642 Swedish
12.42999698 Hungarian_Szekely
12.43230047 Hungarian_Transylvania
13.06187199 Croat
13.29339310 North-Swedish
13.45157983 Swiss_French
13.50840479 Croat_Bosnia
13.58895507 Croat_Slavonia
13.84785182 Croat_Lika-Senj
14.33980757 Hungarian_Csango
14.36563608 South_Polish
14.36844459 Moldova_North
14.59035640 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
14.61055098 English
14.62831843 Croat_Dalmatia
14.63891731 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
14.81032410 North-Dutch
14.84604324 Norwegian
14.88152882 Croat_Tropolje
14.91977882 Southeast_English
14.93021098 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
15.21971419 Serb_B&H
15.37840369 Croat_Istria
15.62602637 Bosniak
15.66599502 Orcadian
15.79834169 Croat_Herzegovina
15.96453256 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
15.98767117 Bosniak_Sarajevo
16.03511147 French
16.12734014 Southwest_Finnish
16.14032528 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
16.53544677 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.54681238 Serb_Croatia
16.61427699 Serb_B&H_Krajina
16.64990691 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
16.90881131 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
16.96783428 Serb
17.17093766 Irish