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05-30-2011, 01:03 AM
Loki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pallantides

Average scores from highest to lowest.

North Sea

SE - 63.5%
NO - 53.6%
DK - 53.2%
NL - 47.6%
UK - 45.5%
US - 40.7%
DE - 39.6%
Loki - 38.3%
CA - 36.6%
AU - 32.1%
IE - 26.8%
FI - 26.5%
EE - 21.8%
FR - 20.9%
HU - 17.9%
PL - 12.1%
UA - 5.7%
ES - 4.4%
North_Russian - 4.0%
RU - 3.7%
LT - 1.7%
BY - 1.5%

Irish or North Atlantic

IE - 60.1%
AU - 57.6%
UK - 37.3%
CA - 33.0%
NO - 30.8%
US - 29.8%
NL - 23.9%
FR - 23.8%
DK - 23.5%
DE - 14.9%
UA - 13.3%
SE - 12.9%
FI - 11.5%
ES - 11.4%
RU - 10.5%
PL - 7.3%
HU - 6.8%
BY - 5.1%
North_Russian - 4.9%
EE - 2.9%
LT - 1.5%
Loki - 0.0%

Baltic

LT - 93.9%
BY - 69.4%
EE - 60.7%
PL - 50.7%
UA - 47.6%
RU - 36.8%
HU - 31.4%
DE - 18.3%
SE - 11.1%
North_Russoian - 10.0%
FI - 9.5%
DK - 8.9%
NO - 7.0%
US - 6.5%
CA - 6.2%
FR - 5.2%
NL - 4.3%
UK - 3.2%
AU - 2.3%
ES - 2.0%
IE - 1.5%
Loki - 0.0%

Southern+Western European

ES - 81.1%
FR - 46.4%
Loki - 46.4%
HU - 33.7%
CA - 22.9%
DE - 22.8%
NL - 21.9%
US 19.1%
PL - 14.4%
UK - 12.3%
DK - 11.6%
UA - 10.8%
BY - 9.9%
IE - 9.3%
RU - 7.8%
AU - 6.4%
FI - 1.9%
North_Russian - 1.6%
SE - 1.2%
LT - 0.5%
EE - 0%
NO - 0%

North Russian

North_Russian - 79.5%
FI - 42.5%
RU - 41.2%
UA - 22.7%
PL - 15.6%
Loki - 15.3%
EE - 14.6%
BY - 14.1%
SE - 11.3%
HU - 10.3%
NO - 8.5%
DE - 4.4%
US - 3.9%
FR - 3.6%
DK - 2.8%
LT - 2.4%
IE - 2.3%
NL - 2.2%
UK - 1.7%
AU - 1.7%
CA - 1.2%
ES - 1.1%

^^ Fixed it for ya. :D
05-30-2011, 01:07 AM
poiuytrewq0987

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

^^ Fixed it for ya. :D

Pssh, if I added myself to that averages list, I'd be 2nd highest S+W Euro... :P
05-30-2011, 01:16 AM
Pallantides

Good idea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pallantides

Average scores from highest to lowest.

North Sea

SE - 63.5%
NO - 53.6%
DK - 53.2%
NL - 47.6%
UK - 45.5%
Pallantides - 44.2%
US - 40.7%
DE - 39.6%
CA - 36.6%
AU - 32.1%
IE - 26.8%
FI - 26.5%
EE - 21.8%
FR - 20.9%
HU - 17.9%
PL - 12.1%
UA - 5.7%
ES - 4.4%
North_Russian - 4.0%
RU - 3.7%
LT - 1.7%
BY - 1.5%

Irish or North Atlantic

IE - 60.1%
AU - 57.6%
Pallantides - 38.7%
UK - 37.3%
CA - 33.0%
NO - 30.8%
US - 29.8%
NL - 23.9%
FR - 23.8%
DK - 23.5%
DE - 14.9%
UA - 13.3%
SE - 12.9%
FI - 11.5%
ES - 11.4%
RU - 10.5%
PL - 7.3%
HU - 6.8%
BY - 5.1%
North_Russian - 4.9%
EE - 2.9%
LT - 1.5%

Baltic

LT - 93.9%
BY - 69.4%
EE - 60.7%
PL - 50.7%
UA - 47.6%
RU - 36.8%
HU - 31.4%
DE - 18.3%
SE - 11.1%
North_Russian - 10.0%
FI - 9.5%
DK - 8.9%
Pallantides - 8.2%
NO - 7.0%
US - 6.5%
CA - 6.2%
FR - 5.2%
NL - 4.3%
UK - 3.2%
AU - 2.3%
ES - 2.0%
IE - 1.5%

Southern+Western European

ES - 81.1%
FR - 46.4%
HU - 33.7%
CA - 22.9%
DE - 22.8%
NL - 21.9%
US 19.1%
PL - 14.4%
UK - 12.3%
DK - 11.6%
UA - 10.8%
BY - 9.9%
IE - 9.3%
RU - 7.8%
AU - 6.4%
FI - 1.9%
North_Russian - 1.6%
SE - 1.2%
LT - 0.5%
EE - 0%
NO - 0%
Pallantides - 0%

North Russian

North_Russian - 79.5%
FI - 42.5%
RU - 41.2%
UA - 22.7%
PL - 15.6%
EE - 14.6%
BY - 14.1%
SE - 11.3%
HU - 10.3%
Pallantides - 8.8%
NO - 8.5%
DE - 4.4%
US - 3.9%
FR - 3.6%
DK - 2.8%
LT - 2.4%
IE - 2.3%
NL - 2.2%
UK - 1.7%
AU - 1.7%
CA - 1.2%
ES - 1.1%
05-30-2011, 02:48 AM
Efim45

Average scores from highest to lowest.

North Sea

SE - 63.5%
NO - 53.6%
DK - 53.2%
NL - 47.6%
UK - 45.5%
US - 40.7%
DE - 39.6%
CA - 36.6%
AU - 32.1%
IE - 26.8%
FI - 26.5%
EE - 21.8%
FR - 20.9%
HU - 17.9%
PL - 12.1%
UA - 5.7%
Efim45 - 5.6%
ES - 4.4%
North_Russian - 4.0%
RU - 3.7%
LT - 1.7%
BY - 1.5%

Irish or North Atlantic

IE - 60.1%
AU - 57.6%
UK - 37.3%
CA - 33.0%
NO - 30.8%
US - 29.8%
NL - 23.9%
FR - 23.8%
DK - 23.5%
DE - 14.9%
UA - 13.3%
SE - 12.9%
FI - 11.5%
ES - 11.4%
RU - 10.5%
PL - 7.3%
HU - 6.8%
BY - 5.1%
North_Russian - 4.9%
EE - 2.9%
LT - 1.5%
Efim45 - 0.0%

Baltic

LT - 93.9%
BY - 69.4%
EE - 60.7%
PL - 50.7%
UA - 47.6%
RU - 36.8%
HU - 31.4%
Efim45 - 29.3%
DE - 18.3%
SE - 11.1%
North_Russoian - 10.0%
FI - 9.5%
DK - 8.9%
NO - 7.0%
US - 6.5%
CA - 6.2%
FR - 5.2%
NL - 4.3%
UK - 3.2%
AU - 2.3%
ES - 2.0%
IE - 1.5%

Southern+Western European

ES - 81.1%
FR - 46.4%
HU - 33.7%
Efim45 - 28.8%
CA - 22.9%
DE - 22.8%
NL - 21.9%
US 19.1%
PL - 14.4%
UK - 12.3%
DK - 11.6%
UA - 10.8%
BY - 9.9%
IE - 9.3%
RU - 7.8%
AU - 6.4%
FI - 1.9%
North_Russian - 1.6%
SE - 1.2%
LT - 0.5%
EE - 0%
NO - 0%

North Russian

North_Russian - 79.5%
FI - 42.5%
RU - 41.2%
Efim45 - 36.3%
UA - 22.7%
PL - 15.6%
EE - 14.6%
BY - 14.1%
SE - 11.3%
HU - 10.3%
NO - 8.5%
DE - 4.4%
US - 3.9%
FR - 3.6%
DK - 2.8%
LT - 2.4%
IE - 2.3%
NL - 2.2%
UK - 1.7%
AU - 1.7%
CA - 1.2%
ES - 1.1%
05-30-2011, 01:56 PM
Olavsson

Well, I guess I'll do the same:

Quote:

Average scores from highest to lowest.

North Sea

SE - 63.5%
NO - 53.6%
DK - 53.2%
NL - 47.6%
Olavsson - 46.3%
UK - 45.5%
US - 40.7%
DE - 39.6%
CA - 36.6%
AU - 32.1%
IE - 26.8%
FI - 26.5%
EE - 21.8%
FR - 20.9%
HU - 17.9%
PL - 12.1%
UA - 5.7%
ES - 4.4%
North_Russian - 4.0%
RU - 3.7%
LT - 1.7%
BY - 1.5%

Irish or North Atlantic

IE - 60.1%
AU - 57.6%
UK - 37.3%
Olavsson - 35.1%
CA - 33.0%
NO - 30.8%
US - 29.8%
NL - 23.9%
FR - 23.8%
DK - 23.5%
DE - 14.9%
UA - 13.3%
SE - 12.9%
FI - 11.5%
ES - 11.4%
RU - 10.5%
PL - 7.3%
HU - 6.8%
BY - 5.1%
North_Russian - 4.9%
EE - 2.9%
LT - 1.5%

Baltic

LT - 93.9%
BY - 69.4%
EE - 60.7%
PL - 50.7%
UA - 47.6%
RU - 36.8%
HU - 31.4%
DE - 18.3%
SE - 11.1%
North_Russian - 10.0%
FI - 9.5%
DK - 8.9%
NO - 7.0%
US - 6.5%
CA - 6.2%
FR - 5.2%
NL - 4.3%
UK - 3.2%
AU - 2.3%
ES - 2.0%
IE - 1.5%
Olavsson - 0%

Southern+Western European

ES - 81.1%
FR - 46.4%
HU - 33.7%
CA - 22.9%
DE - 22.8%
NL - 21.9%
US 19.1%
PL - 14.4%
UK - 12.3%
DK - 11.6%
UA - 10.8%
BY - 9.9%
IE - 9.3%
RU - 7.8%
AU - 6.4%
FI - 1.9%
North_Russian - 1.6%
SE - 1.2%
LT - 0.5%
EE - 0%
NO - 0%
Olavsson - 0%

North Russian

North_Russian - 79.5%
FI - 42.5%
RU - 41.2%
UA - 22.7%
Olavsson - 18.6%
PL - 15.6%
EE - 14.6%
BY - 14.1%
SE - 11.3%
HU - 10.3%
NO - 8.5%
DE - 4.4%
US - 3.9%
FR - 3.6%
DK - 2.8%
LT - 2.4%
IE - 2.3%
NL - 2.2%
UK - 1.7%
AU - 1.7%
CA - 1.2%
ES - 1.1%

My 'North Russian' score is quite high, just like my 'Finnish' score was in some of the previous runs. I wonder where I got this from?
Maybe I've got some actual Finnish ancestry some generations ago.
05-30-2011, 02:19 PM
Pallantides

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olavsson

My 'North Russian' score is quite high, just like my 'Finnish' score was in some of the previous runs. I wonder where I got this from?
Maybe I've got some actual Finnish ancestry some generations ago.

Maybe it's from the Forest Finns?

My paternal family supposedly have some Forest Finn ancestry, but seeing as my 'North Russian' is pretty simillar to the Norwegian average, I'm not so sure.
05-30-2011, 02:33 PM
Olavsson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pallantides

Maybe it's from the Forest Finns?

Yeah, why not. I don't know about any ancestry like that, but then I'm not a genealogical expert either.

Quote:

My paternal family supposedly have some Forest Finn ancestry, but seeing as my 'North Russian' is pretty simillar to the Norwegian average, I'm not so sure.

Most of it might perhaps have been outbred in you?
05-30-2011, 05:41 PM
Rochefaton

Here are my new scores:

North Sea: 58.5%
North Atlantic: 22.3%
Baltic: 4.0%
South/Western Euro: 15.2%
North Russian 0%

It looks like I am more Nordic than some of the Nordics. :lol:
05-30-2011, 06:16 PM
Agrippa

One could even tend, if this would point to an ancestral component, to say that North Sea is closest to Nordeuropid (= Nordid, Dalofaelid) phenotypically.

Also interesting if looking at the genetic distances of the components:

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4028/k5d.png

North Sea is about as close to all the other components, including Southern-Western European, but "Irish"/North Western.

North Sea is, like the North Western component in Dienekes analysis, closer to all others.

I would say that this could point to the fact the Northern Europeans are to a large extend the result of different immigration waves, with an older, ancestral component being present too, which can be associated with the fringes of the North West (here) and North East (Dienekes-Dodecad).

I'm pretty sure one could split up the North in one component which is closer to the rest of Europe and very close to West Asia and another one which is the "fringe party", which preserved the pre-Neolithic variation better.

Also interesting how close West Asian is to North European in Dienekes new "Zombie analysis":
http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/05/...admixture.html

In his K-12 analysis he "North Western" was equidistant from most other European components too, like "North Sea" here, with the biggest gap to "North Eastern", which was more like a representative of the "Northern Mesolithic" in his run I guess.

I think both are here on something, but in the end the Northern component should split up, if really finding an ancestral component, into a Mesolithic-old and a Migration-new component before anything else and that would make perfect sense.

Now the component in which the "old European" (in Dienekes run North Eastern, here "Irish") falls seems to be be drawn away from the rest, while the "mixed bag"/new Northern is very close/equi-distant to the rest - and the used populations might just distort that in a way, still.

But probably I'm just over-interpreting things, will be interesting to see further results...
05-31-2011, 08:32 AM
poiuytrewq0987

Genetic substructures across Southern Europe - preliminary ADMIXTURE runs

SEU2a

North/Central/East European: 72%
Mediterranean: 27%

SEU3a

Southeast/Anatolian: 24%
North/Central/East European: 57%
Mediterranean: 18%

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