Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

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Originally Posted by Ujku

But why tosk and ghegs look almost the same then ?????? My grandpa ( a Lab from corrush originaly ) is Isa boletinis look alike... Also when i was in prishtina 3 years ago with my aunt which was a guest of some people she took in her home in 99' , I don't think that i saw any difference between them (and people in prishtina in general ) and people from the south..

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And R1a Greek from Crete looks almost exactly same as a J2 Italian, because ydna is just a marker that represents a small part of genome and has no effect on phenotype.

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Originally Posted by Sorcelow

Any studies on the Sarakatsanoi?

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Not enough data to make conclusions at the moment. Most likely majority will be J + I

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Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër

It's the very same clade as I2a1b-Din, so from Slavic origin. Enough with the fairytales.

If Tosks are Slavic influenced, then Vlachs are even more so.

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Aww you are such a scholar only that I2a1b came like 5 thousand years later.

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Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër

It's the very same clade as I2a1b-Din, so from Slavic origin. Enough with the fairytales.

If Tosks are Slavic influenced, then Vlachs are even more so.

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Vlachs were basically shepherds/nomads throughout their history they have migrated from one place to another, they brought their paternal genetic lineage along in Albania when they established themselves in southern Albania hence why you got this unusually high number of I2a among southern Albos........This supposed massive slavic settlers leaving their genetic mark sounds overestimated for my taste, Vlachs theory however is far more plausible as Albania was indeed known for huge Vlach settlements.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Aww you are such a scholar only that I2a1b came like 5 thousand years later.

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I2a1b was never found in Greek Ancient remains, that's all I have to say.

Same with G, it's all bullshit. You are older than me, stop dreaming like a kid.

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Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior

Vlachs were basically shepherds/nomads throughout their history they have migrated from one place to another, they brought their paternal genetic lineage along in Albania when they established themselves in southern Albania hence why you got this unusually high number of I2a among southern Albos........This supposed massive slavic settlers leaving their genetic mark sounds overestimated for my taste, Vlachs theory however is far more plausible as Albania was indeed known for huge Vlach settlements.

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It just means Romanized/Hellenized Slavs left a big imprint rather than Proto-Slavs. But I agree, it is a possibility. Probably it is a reason for similar levels in Greece too.

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Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

It just means Romanized/Hellenized Slavs left a big imprint rather than Proto-Slavs. But I agree, it is a possibility. Probably it is a reason for similar levels in Greece too.

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I dont see why is it a problem if it is slavic?!lol seriously,lol This exact marker has produced Tesla. The arguably the greatest mind that ever lived, and Martin Luther, the greatest spirtual leader of western christianity. For a brand new infant marker you cant ask for much more than producing two world's greatest men:p

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Originally Posted by Drawing-slim

I dont see why is it a problem if it is slavic?!lol seriously,lol This exact marker has produced Tesla. The arguably the greatest mind that ever lived, and Martin Luther, the greatest spirtual leader of western christianity. For a brand new infant marker you cant ask for much more than producing two world's greatest men:p

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You are right. It isn't a problem. The great Max Von Sydow is also R1a. I'd rather be related him than some E-V13 Sali Berisha or J2 Laiko singer.

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Originally Posted by Drawing-slim

I dont see why is it a problem if it is slavic?!lol seriously,lol This exact marker has produced Tesla. The arguably the greatest mind that ever lived, and Martin Luther, the greatest spirtual leader of western christianity. For a brand new infant marker you cant ask for much more than producing two world's greatest men:p

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I'm possibly Slavic/Serbian maternally, who knows? Bride stealing was common among Ghegnian highlanders in the past. :D

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Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër

I2a1b was never found in Greek Ancient remains, that's all I have to say.

Same with G, it's all bullshit. You are older than me, stop dreaming like a kid.

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Obviously you have a few loose screws in your head reflects some butthurtness.

Like saying you come from Nordics and Varangians projecting to Scandinavia - little insecure people. As if no one has seen you other than photos spammed all over the internet.

Well plenty of skeletons found in Sesklo and Franchthi

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