Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Yeah , I mention few times, I'm posting only full Macedonian results, i have many Macedo-Serb results with 28-29 Baltic from Skopje,also you need to understand that North part of Greece is mix of many ethnicities, Slavophone Macedonians, Bulgarians, Vlachs,Turks, Pontiaks, maybe even Serbs. I have good example for Macedonians from Bitola and Lerin (Northwest part of Greece) results.

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there's no Serbs there, and none of others would pull Greeks to 25% Baltic except maybe Bulgarians.
but the Bulgarians which border Macedonian Greeks are Pirin Macedonian-Bulgarians and they should be genetically the same people as Fyrom-Macedonians, right? So it's not from them either.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

All kits of these threads are included here :D

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but those are independent sources, they weren't collected by you. so if she doesn't trust you, those sources are free of your influence.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Also i dont understand why Macedonian results needs to be more Baltic than Greeks from MAcedonia region ?

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People assume that more geographically north must mean more Slavic.
but this doesn't have to be so at all.
In the initial 7th century settlement, Slavic tribes settled mostly in Southern Serbia, Western Bulgaria and North Greece, but for a large part of today's Macedonia we have no information of a Slavic tribe settiling there:
https://historum.com/proxy.php?image...f25c22580bf0bd

according to archaeology a group of Slavs came to Macedonia from Bulgaria a few centuries later.

Davidski has seen the samples of some Slavs from Macedonia, and they weren't Ukrainian-like, they were already mixed and similar to today's Serbs and Romanians.
These could be those migrants from Bulgaria.

so if your averages are really valid, and Macedonians have ultra low Baltic, this is the reason why.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Because 10-30 is impossible with the available pops in the region, but 16-24 is doable.
I don't really get the big fuss here, because Johnny's average from Vardar region, which is in the South, scores an average of 44% NA+Baltic and that's more Northern than the average of those 4 Greeks from Macedonia region.

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That region is not South , its mostly Central Veles / Stip and Kavadarci, also this region is with less Baltic from all regions , from 10 kits Baltic average is 19.17 , in this region North Atlantic is really high average i 23.92,

Here' top5 closest references to these kits.

Distance to:	VardarRegion
3.30788452	Albanian_Gheg
3.35665012	Torbesh_average
3.76071802	Albanian
5.25114273	Albanian_Tosk
5.42554375	Greek_Thessaly

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
4.98343255	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
5.85362495	Greek_Thessaly
5.92152852	Albanian_Gheg
5.92371505	Albanian
6.39035210	Turk_Makedonya

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
5.54921616	Albanian_Gheg
5.71612631	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
5.98876448	Albanian
6.22385732	Torbesh_average
6.72353330	Bulgaria_Northeastern

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
4.20806369	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
4.55412999	Albanian_Gheg
5.21350170	Albanian
5.25430300	Torbesh_average
5.84085610	Bulgaria_Southcentral

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
4.71410649	Albanian_Gheg
4.93333559	Torbesh_average
5.44539255	Albanian
6.23026484	Greek_Central_Macedonia
6.28337489	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
3.73170202	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
4.48233198	Albanian_Gheg
4.75024210	Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.21917618	Albanian
5.40925133	Bulgaria_Southcentral

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
4.83076598	Bulgaria_Southeastern
5.08642310	Albanian_Gheg
5.27080639	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
5.31521401	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
5.58446058	Bulgaria_Northeastern

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
7.00143557	Bosniak_Sandzak
7.66132495	Serb_Southern_Montenegro
7.76403890	Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.92892805	Romania_Oltenia
8.10307349	Bulgaria_Northeastern

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
5.31241000	Albanian_Gheg
5.57845857	Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.61270879	Bosniak_Sandzak
5.67092585	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
5.81123911	Bulgaria_Southwestern

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
5.81049051	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
6.10267974	Albanian_Gheg
6.16769001	Albanian
6.41520849	Torbesh_average
6.71778423	Greek_Thessaly

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
5.13420880	Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.19772065	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
5.71184734	Albanian_Gheg
5.96647299	Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.33060029	Albanian

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Distance to:	VardarRegion
3.87152425	Albanian_Gheg
4.69284562	Albanian
4.95565334	Torbesh_average
5.18578827	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
5.31859944	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia [

Here's coordinates

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Vardar Region,23.4,17.66,22.46,10.96,21.79,0.61,0,0,1.28,1.39,0.45,0,0
Vardar Region,24.95,18.23,16.98,11.13,23.42,2.32,0.24,0.65,0.42,1.29,0,0.3,0.05
Vardar Region,26.15,19.03,19.35,11.39,21.87,0.75,0,0.19,0,1.04,0.22,0,0
Vardar Region,23.08,19.92,20.01,8.89,21.14,3.89,0.53,0,1.03,0,1.51,0,0
Vardar Region,20.02,19.6,24.44,11.52,20.51,1.1,0.79,0,1.1,0.91,0,0,0
Vardar Region,24.32,19.78,19.27,11.46,21.06,2.55,0.31,0,0,0,1.25,0,0
Vardar Region,21.4,19.31,21.83,13.53,18.74,3.36,0,0.59,0,0.93,0.31,0,0
Vardar Region,24.57,20.39,23.71,11.77,15.85,2.44,1.27,0,0,0,0,0,0
Vardar Region,24.31,20.31,21.45,12.17,19.52,0.53,0,0.46,0.85,0,0,0.36,0
Vardar Region,25.74,19.17,18.22,9.22,23.84,1.97,0,1.84,0,0,0,0,0
Vardar Region,24.87,18.4,18.76,13.55,20.15,2.56,0,1.07,0.17,0,0.48,0,0
 Vardar Region,24.27,18.19,21.47,12.65,20.38,2.18,0,0,0.17,0.6,0,0,0.09

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

there's no Serbs there, and none of others would pull Greeks to 25% Baltic except maybe Bulgarians.
but the Bulgarians which border Macedonian Greeks are Pirin Macedonian-Bulgarians and they should be genetically the same people as Fyrom-Macedonians, right? So it's not from them either.



but those are independent sources, they weren't collected by you. so if she doesn't trust you, those sources are free of your influence.


People assume that more geographically north must mean more Slavic.
but this doesn't have to be so at all.
In the initial 7th century settlement, Slavic tribes settled mostly in Southern Serbia, Western Bulgaria and North Greece, but for a large part of today's Macedonia we have no information of a Slavic tribe settiling there:
https://historum.com/proxy.php?image...f25c22580bf0bd

according to archaeology a group of Slavs came to Macedonia from Bulgaria a few centuries later.

Davidski has seen the samples of some Slavs from Macedonia, and they weren't Ukrainian-like, they were already mixed and similar to today's Serbs and Romanians.
These could be those migrants from Bulgaria.

so if your averages are really valid, and Macedonians have ultra low Baltic, this is the reason why.

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I'm pretty sure the Slavs settled Macedonia as well no?

The Avaro-Slavic incursions that hit Greece and Albania likely settled in some parts of Macedonia as well.

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Originally Posted by GalenStark

I'm pretty sure the Slavs settled Macedonia as well no?

The Avaro-Slavic incursions that hit Greece and Albania likely settled in some parts of Macedonia as well.

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Yes, but as I said, there are strong indicatiosn that it might have been later, in the 9th century, and by a group of Slavs which was already Balkan admixed.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

each population has a "NA+Baltic range", true, but there is also a specific NA range, and a specific Baltic range.
a Greek Macedonian could never be 10% NA and 30% Baltic, right?

So if Southern Macedonians don't get 25% Baltic on a pretty large sample, and these do, there's a difference.
It doesn't matter if some Southern Macedonians have a "NA+Baltic" just as high as these samples.

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Do you have a full list of K13 individual results of Macedonian Greeks and Vlachs/Aromanians from Greece?

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

there's no Serbs there, and none of others would pull Greeks to 25% Baltic except maybe Bulgarians.
but the Bulgarians which border Macedonian Greeks are Pirin Macedonian-Bulgarians and they should be genetically the same people as Fyrom-Macedonians, right? So it's not from them either.



but those are independent sources, they weren't collected by you. so if she doesn't trust you, those sources are free of your influence.


People assume that more geographically north must mean more Slavic.
but this doesn't have to be so at all.
In the initial 7th century settlement, Slavic tribes settled mostly in Southern Serbia, Western Bulgaria and North Greece, but for a large part of today's Macedonia we have no information of a Slavic tribe settiling there:
https://historum.com/proxy.php?image...f25c22580bf0bd

according to archaeology a group of Slavs came to Macedonia from Bulgaria a few centuries later.

Davidski has seen the samples of some Slavs from Macedonia, and they weren't Ukrainian-like, they were already mixed and similar to today's Serbs and Romanians.
These could be those migrants from Bulgaria.

so if your averages are really valid, and Macedonians have ultra low Baltic, this is the reason why.

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They weren't collected by me, but i included them in Averages, no problem with me she can compare these results too, my kits are all valid, you have kit numbers and additional information's so everyone can check them, I don't know about slavs and invasions I'm talking about genetics here, and in most of cases Macedonian kits from South and Central part of Macedonia which is 70% of Macedonian territory have less baltic than those from Greek Macedonia, Macedonia is really isolated country , we have three big cities Skopje,Kumanovo and Bitola which can be settlers from neigbours countries, all other cities are smaller and in 99% are locals which do not mix with others cities, its really rare, except these three cities I can tell you that people here are really isolated , thats reason why these results are homogenous and with lower Baltic, pure genetics, these Academic samples from Skopje are something like 8 of 13 are Macedo-Serbs even one is full Bosnian and most are with Serbian-Croatian surnames with sufix IC, even i see how many people are not satisfied with these results which can't be faked because you have all here also if someone really wants those kits can PM me i will provede them, i will even add these kits from Skopje Academic study with mostly Macedo-Serbs kits and here's average from them too.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

You can compare with rest full Macedonians from Skopje of same study how different they are, also here's kit from full Macedonian from most North place in Macedonia Vratnica, here's his results;

Kit number: WX2259700, Elapsed time: 4.44 seconds.

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Population North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct Baltic 22.74 Pct West_Med 19.55 Pct West_Asian 8.65 Pct East_Med 25.35 Pct Red_Sea 0.91 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.9 Pct Amerindian 0.67 Pct Oceanian 0.3 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.24 Pct

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Because 10-30 is impossible with the available pops in the region, but 16-24 is doable.
I don't really get the big fuss here, because Johnny's average from Vardar region, which is in the South, scores an average of 44% NA+Baltic and that's more Northern than the average of those 4 Greeks from Macedonia region.

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I already explained in my previous post, there is some correlation, but not to such a degree that you can completely disregard NA and Baltic, and just view their sum.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

They weren't collected by me, but i included them in Averages, no problem with me she can compare these results too, my kits are all valid, you have kit numbers and additional information's so everyone can check them, I don't know about slavs and invasions I'm talking about genetics here, and in most of cases Macedonian kits from South and Central part of Macedonia which is 70% of Macedonian territory have less baltic than those from Greek Macedonia, Macedonia is really isolated country , we have three big cities Skopje,Kumanovo and Bitola which can be settlers from neigbours countries, all other cities are smaller and in 99% are locals which do not mix with others cities, its really rare, except these three cities I can tell you that people here are really isolated , thats reason why these results are homogenous and with lower Baltic, pure genetics, these Academic samples from Skopje are something like 8 of 13 are Macedo-Serbs even one is full Bosnian and most are with Serbian-Croatian surnames with sufix IC, even i see how many people are not satisfied with these results which can't be faked because you have all here also if someone really wants those kits can PM me i will provede them, i will even add these kits from Skopje Academic study with mostly Macedo-Serbs kits and here's average from them too.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

You can compare with rest full Macedonians from Skopje of same study how different they are, also here's kit from full Macedonian from most North place in Macedonia Vratnica, here's his results;

Kit number: WX2259700, Elapsed time: 4.44 seconds.

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Population North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct Baltic 22.74 Pct West_Med 19.55 Pct West_Asian 8.65 Pct East_Med 25.35 Pct Red_Sea 0.91 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.9 Pct Amerindian 0.67 Pct Oceanian 0.3 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.24 Pct

Cheers!

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I know of those kits, I explained it in a previous post.
They aren't Macedo-Serbs (the Serbs native to Macedonia)

they are mixed with Serbs from northern parts of Serbia and Bosnia.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Do you have a full list of K13 individual results of Macedonian Greeks and Vlachs/Aromanians from Greece?

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_	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_Afr	Sub_Saharan
central macedonia:
Macedonia:Macedonia_674	24.2	19.33	15.86	12.65	24.9	2.49	0	0	0.57	0	0	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_675	21.3	17.95	18.01	11.54	24.1	4.76	0.97	0	0.66	0	0.29	0.42	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_676	17.96	22.15	20.72	12.07	23.45	1.37	0.63	0.11	0	0.93	0.61	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_677	17.15	17.54	18.07	19.27	21.34	5.63	0.01	0	0.47	0.34	0	0	0.17
Macedonia:Macedonia_678	19.82	16.23	23.6	13.6	22.95	2.3	0	1.02	0.01	0.47	0	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_679	18.29	20.68	22.24	8.91	25.57	1.7	2.17	0.25	0	0.19	0	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_680	19.25	20.7	19.52	14.19	20.77	3.15	0.95	0	1.14	0	0.27	0.05	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_681	18.72	16.94	20.1	14.1	25.51	2.63	0	0.78	0.03	0	0.95	0.16	0.07
Macedonia:Macedonia_682	25.24	16.63	21.26	11.01	21.21	1.82	0.65	0.65	0.34	0.66	0.53	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_683	12.13	20.44	25.88	14.18	24.24	0.69	1.1	0.45	0.5	0.39	0	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_684	15.67	17.13	21.8	15.22	26	1.66	0.1	0	2.41	0.01	0	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_685	13.94	22.14	20.09	10.32	27.52	4.06	0	0	0	1.05	0.01	0.87	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_686	18.56	18.48	21.36	11.43	25.25	3.45	0	0	0.57	0.3	0.6	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_687	17.81	17.62	20.84	15.37	22.03	2.89	2.72	0	0	0.01	0.7	0	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_688	13.89	18.85	17.98	18.62	23.46	2.87	0.39	0.37	2.53	0	0.82	0.22	0
Macedonia:Macedonia_689	23.06	18.39	23.41	7.68	22.98	1.41	2.72	0.32	0	0.02	0	0	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP10	13.51	19.28	19.67	13.99	27.03	3.43	0.07	0.98	0	1	0.36	0.69	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP11	23.72	17.86	18.13	9.96	26.52	1.26	1.44	0	0	0	0.38	0.65	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP12	12.2	21.66	19.66	17	22.03	4.31	0	0	0.63	1.71	0.68	0.12	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP13	21.9	12.64	22.66	16.86	21.24	2.8	0	0.12	0	0.67	0.57	0.3	0.22
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP14	24.31	13	20.42	7.5	30.81	1.76	0.15	0	0	1.17	0.24	0.54	0.1
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP15	22.58	15.87	20.71	15.34	23.09	0	0	0.77	0	0.88	0	0	0.75
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP16	15.71	17.15	21.24	12.67	26.7	4.48	0	0	0.94	0	0	0	1.07
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP17	19.71	21.26	17.97	10.93	25.79	2.37	0	0	0	0.78	0	0.41	0.75
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP18	18.38	14.96	23.45	9.41	25.97	4.68	2.48	0	0	0.66	0	0	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP3	16.13	20.48	23.08	9.83	25.43	2.81	0	0	0.87	0.76	0.61	0	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP4	18.22	15.16	21.37	11.72	27.48	4.48	0	0.98	0.43	0.16	0	0	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP5	19.45	16.33	22.41	10.69	26.32	1.41	1.86	1.2	0	0.34	0	0	0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP8	21.47	19.54	19.5	14.85	21.52	1.96	0	0	0.06	0.45	0.23	0	0.42
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP9	18.1	19.49	24.06	12.35	22.34	2.17	0	1.48	0	0	0	0	0
Thessaloniki_Central_Macedonia	19.63	20.95	20.74	11.76	24.44	0.96	0.16	0.27	0.38	0.71	0	0	0
Thessaloniki_Central_Macedonia	17.15	20.77	21.98	13.92	23.97	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Serres_Central_Macedonia	20.66	15.96	21.9	13.11	22.34	4.13	0	0.41	0.19	0	0.06	1.25	0
Greek_Central_Macedonia_avg	18.78	18.29	20.90	12.79	24.37	2.60	0.56	0.31	0.39	0.41	0.24	0.17	0.11
west macedonia:
Florina_West_Macedonia	25.5	9.92	22.49	13.2	22.79	3.73	0	0.28	0	1.08	0	1.02	0
Florina_West_Macedonia	23	13.61	20.68	12.42	26.04	3.15	0	0	0.2	0.82	0.07	0	0
Florina_West_Macedonia	18.87	14.78	18.68	13.71	27.49	4.25	0.41	0.59	0.88	0	0	0.32	0
Florina_West_Macedonia	14.9	19.48	20.08	15.2	24.66	5.34	0	0.36	0	0	0	0	0
Florina_West_Macedonia	22.82	18.2	18.37	13.76	23.52	1.53	0	0.49	1.28	0	0	0	0
Ptolemaida_West_Macedonia	18.28	17.58	22.25	14.59	22.25	2.85	0.44	0	0.2	1.01	0.56	0	0
Greek_West_Macedonia_avg	20.56	15.60	20.43	13.81	24.46	3.48	0.14	0.29	0.43	0.49	0.11	0.22	0
macedonia outliers:
GreeceMaced2	19.34	24.91	17.65	13.91	20.42	1.85	0	0.01	1.68	0.03	0	0.01	0.19
GreeceMaced3	21.57	19.62	17.77	14.14	22.53	2.52	0.13	0.28	1.25	0.01	0.19	0	0
GreeceMaced4	16.45	24.84	19.74	10.52	25.15	1.99	1.1	0.08	0.01	0	0.13	0	0
GreeceMaced8	20.94	22.28	20.07	12.01	20.41	0.57	1.03	0.97	0.93	0.03	0.74	0	0.01
Serres	25.06	27.81	15.22	10.06	16.64	2.76	0	0	1.73	0.05	0.07	0.6	0
average	20.672	23.892	18.09	12.128	21.03	1.938	0.452	0.268	1.12	0.024	0.226	0.122	0.04
East Macedonia and Thrace:
GreeceNE11	19.1	20.59	19.02	13.38	25.3	0.88	0.32	0	0.58	0.3	0.53	0	0
GreeceNE126	19.33	14.21	23.63	15.95	21.86	3.08	0.54	0	0	1.05	0.15	0	0.19
GreeceNE144	23.12	13.53	22.78	13.74	21.81	3.33	0.08	0	1.02	0	0	0	0.55
GreeceNE162	25.23	14.23	20.12	11.26	24.43	3.29	0.65	0.47	0.07	0.22	0	0	0
GreeceNE209	13.74	15.53	25.15	12.63	26.08	4.71	0	0.95	0.28	0.86	0.06	0	0
GreeceNE231	20.28	10.9	20.92	17.16	25.64	4.18	0	0	0	0.3	0.39	0	0.24
GreeceNE252	19.01	12.45	19.64	16.41	26.24	4.46	0	0.68	0.48	0.11	0.52	0	0
GreeceNE284	22.14	13.82	20.1	14.35	25.97	3.02	0	0	0.19	0.42	0	0	0
GreeceNE34	23.2	21.99	17.64	8.6	21.71	5.18	0	0	0	1.16	0	0.51	0
GreeceNE59	23.54	17.61	16.42	11.35	22.91	5.24	1.04	0	0.73	0.45	0.72	0	0
GreeceNE8	20.43	22.56	19.05	11.25	21.76	3.55	0	0	0	1.07	0	0	0.31
East_Rumelia_650	20.56	16.52	21.6	13.04	22.89	4.2	0	0	0.57	0.22	0.39	0	0.01
East_Rumelia_653	17.84	14.43	18.86	16.2	27.79	3.48	0.04	0	0	1.37	0	0	0
East_Rumelia_651	15.29	19.6	20.91	16.84	22.89	3.28	0.03	0	0.79	0	0.37	0	0
East_Rumelia_642	24.43	16.27	17.56	13.25	23.08	3.08	1.92	0	0.01	0.38	0	0	0
East_Rumelia_646	19.34	13.74	17.62	17.82	25.37	2.79	1.92	0.04	0.7	0.24	0.41	0	0
East_Rumelia_652	15.81	11.41	18.26	17.16	32.14	2.59	0	0.16	0.95	0.52	0	0	1
East_Rumelia_647	21.08	22.7	20.07	15.47	16.99	2.31	0.54	0.02	0.75	0	0	0.05	0
East_Rumelia_643	15.84	16.99	17.21	19.83	26.62	2.05	0.23	0	0.08	0	1.16	0	0
East_Rumelia_644	14.78	25.52	16.33	11.82	27.11	1.92	0	0	2.11	0	0	0.01	0.39
East_Rumelia_645	20.59	22.7	18.67	11.77	23.06	1.9	0	0	0.12	0	1.19	0	0
East_Rumelia_649	21.36	17.76	18.77	10.4	27.1	1.55	1.87	0	0.11	0.48	0	0	0.6
East_Rumelia_648	20.35	21.58	21.26	15.82	17.05	0.83	0.13	1.93	0	0.69	0	0	0.36
Greek_Eastern-Thrace	16.34	17.89	20.2	13.03	27.42	3.63	0	0	1.02	0.31	0.13	0	0
Greek_Macedonia_Thrace	15.23	16.22	18.36	17.97	26.41	3.56	0.54	0.36	0.58	0	0.53	0.15	0.03
Greek_Western-Thrace	21.88	13.08	22.91	12.65	25.86	1.9	0	1.34	0	0.38	0	0	0
Greek_Istanbul	18.08	15.35	16.12	19.69	26.36	2.59	0	0	0.53	0.42	0.73	0.13	0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia	20.66	15.94	21.89	13.13	22.35	4.13	0	0.41	0.19	0	0.06	1.25	0
Greek_Northern-Thrace	19.04	22.53	19.23	12.02	24.12	0	0	0	1	0	1.52	0	0
Thrace	15.93	18.93	19.3	16.36	25.84	1.59	0	1.29	0	0.68	0.08	0	0
Eastern_Thrace	17.34	18.89	20.2	12.03	27.42	2.63	0	0	1.02	0.31	0.13	0	0
bigsnake_thrace	19.45	19.80	19.27	15.01	22.41	0.88	0.67	0.51	0.33	0.28	0.28	0.54	0.57
Greek_Northeast_avg	19.39	17.35	19.66	14.29	24.50	2.87	0.33	0.26	0.44	0.38	0.29	0.08	0.13
aromanians:
aromanian1	25.95	23.56	16.11	9.72	19.35	3.09	0	0	1.2	0.27	0.53	0.21	0
aromanian2	23.28	21.03	17.32	12.84	19.86	2.64	0.01	0	1.26	1.24	0.54	0	0
aromanian3	21.34	21.03	18.47	10.96	22.05	4.71	0	0	0	1.06	0.25	0.12	0
aromanian4	22.21	19.88	20.33	11.84	19.73	4.68	0	0.66	0	0	0.67	0	0
aromanian5	21.16	16.34	21.87	11.2	23.99	4.14	0.06	0.43	0	0	0.81	0	0
aromanian6	19.98	21.95	20.79	12.18	22.6	1.05	0.18	0.34	0.91	0	0	0	0
aromanian7	17.79	20.84	18.59	11.7	27.51	1.38	1.01	0.15	0.35	0.67	0	0	0
aromanian8	18.34	18.11	18.52	13.72	25.8	2.99	0.15	2.14	0	0	0.24	0	0
aromanian_avg	21.26	20.34	19.00	11.77	22.61	3.09	0.18	0.47	0.47	0.41	0.38	0.04	0.00

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central macedonia:
Macedonia:Macedonia_674,24.2,19.33,15.86,12.65,24.9,2.49,0,0,0.57,0,0,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_675,21.3,17.95,18.01,11.54,24.1,4.76,0.97,0,0.66,0,0.29,0.42,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_676,17.96,22.15,20.72,12.07,23.45,1.37,0.63,0.11,0,0.93,0.61,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_677,17.15,17.54,18.07,19.27,21.34,5.63,0.01,0,0.47,0.34,0,0,0.17
Macedonia:Macedonia_678,19.82,16.23,23.6,13.6,22.95,2.3,0,1.02,0.01,0.47,0,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_679,18.29,20.68,22.24,8.91,25.57,1.7,2.17,0.25,0,0.19,0,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_680,19.25,20.7,19.52,14.19,20.77,3.15,0.95,0,1.14,0,0.27,0.05,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_681,18.72,16.94,20.1,14.1,25.51,2.63,0,0.78,0.03,0,0.95,0.16,0.07
Macedonia:Macedonia_682,25.24,16.63,21.26,11.01,21.21,1.82,0.65,0.65,0.34,0.66,0.53,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_683,12.13,20.44,25.88,14.18,24.24,0.69,1.1,0.45,0.5,0.39,0,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_684,15.67,17.13,21.8,15.22,26,1.66,0.1,0,2.41,0.01,0,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_685,13.94,22.14,20.09,10.32,27.52,4.06,0,0,0,1.05,0.01,0.87,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_686,18.56,18.48,21.36,11.43,25.25,3.45,0,0,0.57,0.3,0.6,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_687,17.81,17.62,20.84,15.37,22.03,2.89,2.72,0,0,0.01,0.7,0,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_688,13.89,18.85,17.98,18.62,23.46,2.87,0.39,0.37,2.53,0,0.82,0.22,0
Macedonia:Macedonia_689,23.06,18.39,23.41,7.68,22.98,1.41,2.72,0.32,0,0.02,0,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP10,13.51,19.28,19.67,13.99,27.03,3.43,0.07,0.98,0,1,0.36,0.69,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP11,23.72,17.86,18.13,9.96,26.52,1.26,1.44,0,0,0,0.38,0.65,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP12,12.2,21.66,19.66,17,22.03,4.31,0,0,0.63,1.71,0.68,0.12,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP13,21.9,12.64,22.66,16.86,21.24,2.8,0,0.12,0,0.67,0.57,0.3,0.22
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP14,24.31,13,20.42,7.5,30.81,1.76,0.15,0,0,1.17,0.24,0.54,0.1
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP15,22.58,15.87,20.71,15.34,23.09,0,0,0.77,0,0.88,0,0,0.75
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP16,15.71,17.15,21.24,12.67,26.7,4.48,0,0,0.94,0,0,0,1.07
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP17,19.71,21.26,17.97,10.93,25.79,2.37,0,0,0,0.78,0,0.41,0.75
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP18,18.38,14.96,23.45,9.41,25.97,4.68,2.48,0,0,0.66,0,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP3,16.13,20.48,23.08,9.83,25.43,2.81,0,0,0.87,0.76,0.61,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP4,18.22,15.16,21.37,11.72,27.48,4.48,0,0.98,0.43,0.16,0,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP5,19.45,16.33,22.41,10.69,26.32,1.41,1.86,1.2,0,0.34,0,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP8,21.47,19.54,19.5,14.85,21.52,1.96,0,0,0.06,0.45,0.23,0,0.42
Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP9,18.1,19.49,24.06,12.35,22.34,2.17,0,1.48,0,0,0,0,0
Thessaloniki_Central_Macedonia,19.63,20.95,20.74,11.76,24.44,0.96,0.16,0.27,0.38,0.71,0,0,0
Thessaloniki_Central_Macedonia,17.15,20.77,21.98,13.92,23.97,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Serres_Central_Macedonia,20.66,15.96,21.9,13.11,22.34,4.13,0,0.41,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Central_Macedonia_avg,18.78,18.29,20.90,12.79,24.37,2.60,0.56,0.31,0.39,0.41,0.24,0.17,0.11

west macedonia:
Florina_West_Macedonia,25.5,9.92,22.49,13.2,22.79,3.73,0,0.28,0,1.08,0,1.02,0
Florina_West_Macedonia,23,13.61,20.68,12.42,26.04,3.15,0,0,0.2,0.82,0.07,0,0
Florina_West_Macedonia,18.87,14.78,18.68,13.71,27.49,4.25,0.41,0.59,0.88,0,0,0.32,0
Florina_West_Macedonia,14.9,19.48,20.08,15.2,24.66,5.34,0,0.36,0,0,0,0,0
Florina_West_Macedonia,22.82,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1.53,0,0.49,1.28,0,0,0,0
Ptolemaida_West_Macedonia,18.28,17.58,22.25,14.59,22.25,2.85,0.44,0,0.2,1.01,0.56,0,0
Greek_West_Macedonia_avg,20.56,15.60,20.43,13.81,24.46,3.48,0.14,0.29,0.43,0.49,0.11,0.22,0

macedonia outliers:
GreeceMaced2,19.34,24.91,17.65,13.91,20.42,1.85,0,0.01,1.68,0.03,0,0.01,0.19
GreeceMaced3,21.57,19.62,17.77,14.14,22.53,2.52,0.13,0.28,1.25,0.01,0.19,0,0
GreeceMaced4,16.45,24.84,19.74,10.52,25.15,1.99,1.1,0.08,0.01,0,0.13,0,0
GreeceMaced8,20.94,22.28,20.07,12.01,20.41,0.57,1.03,0.97,0.93,0.03,0.74,0,0.01
Serres,25.06,27.81,15.22,10.06,16.64,2.76,0,0,1.73,0.05,0.07,0.6,0
average,20.672,23.892,18.09,12.128,21.03,1.938,0.452,0.268,1.12,0.024,0.226,0.122,0.04

East Macedonia and Thrace:
GreeceNE11,19.1,20.59,19.02,13.38,25.3,0.88,0.32,0,0.58,0.3,0.53,0,0
GreeceNE126,19.33,14.21,23.63,15.95,21.86,3.08,0.54,0,0,1.05,0.15,0,0.19
GreeceNE144,23.12,13.53,22.78,13.74,21.81,3.33,0.08,0,1.02,0,0,0,0.55
GreeceNE162,25.23,14.23,20.12,11.26,24.43,3.29,0.65,0.47,0.07,0.22,0,0,0
GreeceNE209,13.74,15.53,25.15,12.63,26.08,4.71,0,0.95,0.28,0.86,0.06,0,0
GreeceNE231,20.28,10.9,20.92,17.16,25.64,4.18,0,0,0,0.3,0.39,0,0.24
GreeceNE252,19.01,12.45,19.64,16.41,26.24,4.46,0,0.68,0.48,0.11,0.52,0,0
GreeceNE284,22.14,13.82,20.1,14.35,25.97,3.02,0,0,0.19,0.42,0,0,0
GreeceNE34,23.2,21.99,17.64,8.6,21.71,5.18,0,0,0,1.16,0,0.51,0
GreeceNE59,23.54,17.61,16.42,11.35,22.91,5.24,1.04,0,0.73,0.45,0.72,0,0
GreeceNE8,20.43,22.56,19.05,11.25,21.76,3.55,0,0,0,1.07,0,0,0.31
East_Rumelia_650,20.56,16.52,21.6,13.04,22.89,4.2,0,0,0.57,0.22,0.39,0,0.01
East_Rumelia_653,17.84,14.43,18.86,16.2,27.79,3.48,0.04,0,0,1.37,0,0,0
East_Rumelia_651,15.29,19.6,20.91,16.84,22.89,3.28,0.03,0,0.79,0,0.37,0,0
East_Rumelia_642,24.43,16.27,17.56,13.25,23.08,3.08,1.92,0,0.01,0.38,0,0,0
East_Rumelia_646,19.34,13.74,17.62,17.82,25.37,2.79,1.92,0.04,0.7,0.24,0.41,0,0
East_Rumelia_652,15.81,11.41,18.26,17.16,32.14,2.59,0,0.16,0.95,0.52,0,0,1
East_Rumelia_647,21.08,22.7,20.07,15.47,16.99,2.31,0.54,0.02,0.75,0,0,0.05,0
East_Rumelia_643,15.84,16.99,17.21,19.83,26.62,2.05,0.23,0,0.08,0,1.16,0,0
East_Rumelia_644,14.78,25.52,16.33,11.82,27.11,1.92,0,0,2.11,0,0,0.01,0.39
East_Rumelia_645,20.59,22.7,18.67,11.77,23.06,1.9,0,0,0.12,0,1.19,0,0
East_Rumelia_649,21.36,17.76,18.77,10.4,27.1,1.55,1.87,0,0.11,0.48,0,0,0.6
East_Rumelia_648,20.35,21.58,21.26,15.82,17.05,0.83,0.13,1.93,0,0.69,0,0,0.36
Greek_Eastern-Thrace,16.34,17.89,20.2,13.03,27.42,3.63,0,0,1.02,0.31,0.13,0,0
Greek_Macedonia_Thrace,15.23,16.22,18.36,17.97,26.41,3.56,0.54,0.36,0.58,0,0.53,0.15,0.03
Greek_Western-Thrace,21.88,13.08,22.91,12.65,25.86,1.9,0,1.34,0,0.38,0,0,0
Greek_Istanbul,18.08,15.35,16.12,19.69,26.36,2.59,0,0,0.53,0.42,0.73,0.13,0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia,20.66,15.94,21.89,13.13,22.35,4.13,0,0.41,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Northern-Thrace,19.04,22.53,19.23,12.02,24.12,0,0,0,1,0,1.52,0,0
Thrace,15.93,18.93,19.3,16.36,25.84,1.59,0,1.29,0,0.68,0.08,0,0
Eastern_Thrace,17.34,18.89,20.2,12.03,27.42,2.63,0,0,1.02,0.31,0.13,0,0
bigsnake_thrace,19.45,19.80,19.27,15.01,22.41,0.88,0.67,0.51,0.33,0.28,0.28,0.54,0.57
Greek_Northeast_avg,19.39,17.35,19.66,14.29,24.50,2.87,0.33,0.26,0.44,0.38,0.29,0.08,0.13

aromanians:
aromanian1,25.95,23.56,16.11,9.72,19.35,3.09,0,0,1.2,0.27,0.53,0.21,0
aromanian2,23.28,21.03,17.32,12.84,19.86,2.64,0.01,0,1.26,1.24,0.54,0,0
aromanian3,21.34,21.03,18.47,10.96,22.05,4.71,0,0,0,1.06,0.25,0.12,0
aromanian4,22.21,19.88,20.33,11.84,19.73,4.68,0,0.66,0,0,0.67,0,0
aromanian5,21.16,16.34,21.87,11.2,23.99,4.14,0.06,0.43,0,0,0.81,0,0
aromanian6,19.98,21.95,20.79,12.18,22.6,1.05,0.18,0.34,0.91,0,0,0,0
aromanian7,17.79,20.84,18.59,11.7,27.51,1.38,1.01,0.15,0.35,0.67,0,0,0
aromanian8,18.34,18.11,18.52,13.72,25.8,2.99,0.15,2.14,0,0,0.24,0,0
aromanian_avg,21.26,20.34,19.00,11.77,22.61,3.09,0.18,0.47,0.47,0.41,0.38,0.04,0.00

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